[Master Thread] Attempted Trump Assassination (Including attempt on Sept 15, 2024)

[Family 3,988]

6 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

Who turned the vile hate speech he constantly heard from the leftist media and dem politicians into evil action.  "Hitler" "Existential threat to democracy" "Dictator" "The end to our way of life".   This is not harmless rhetoric. 

Who could forget the ominous  It’s going to be a Bloodbath…

After eight years of violent rhetoric , MAGA blames others:

 

The only mass political violence in America had been January 6, stoked by Trump, other Republicans, and Fox News. Most of the aggressive rhetoric in this country has come from the same crowd.

At a time when circumspection and restraint are needed the most, the choric chant that the problem rests with others — meaning the Democrats — was as galling as it was predictable. 

Underlining this instant politicization were a man and a woman at the Trump rally in Butler, PA, flipping their middle fingers at CNN’s camera within seconds of the shooting.

The current frenzy is all based, it should be underlined, on the act of a single individual — a registered Republican. Somehow, this is now to be used to tar and intimidate all Americans who legitimately and thoughtfully question Trump and his motives.

And, just as predictably, one Fox talking head said that this is what happens in a country with “godlessness” — without anyone mentioning that this could not happen in a country with “gunlessness,” since Trump and his allies are thrilled that practically anyone can obtain a murder weapon and unlimited ammunition. (Some perspective on hate, violence, and guns: From 1990 to the present, according to official statistics, far-right extremists have killed more than 520 people — while far-left extremists have killed 78 people. For more data, go here, here, here.)

 

And, while decrying division in the country and calling for toning things down, the Fox folks continuously referred to Trump as “President Trump” or “the President,” as in “the President is fine,” yet I heard a “newsperson” referring to the actual president simply as “Biden.” 

In other words, at Fox they are working to create more division and animosity, still stoking the stolen-election lie, and setting the stage for more discord and potential violence. 

I doubt we will hear much candor on the irony of all this. We will see plenty of “The Photo”: the blood-streaked face of the brave, wounded, defiant victim-hero. Fox and its Republican allies will successfully milk this for all it is worth, their base will in their own minds decide that the Democrats are somehow to blame, and the major media and Democrats will have no idea how to combat this nonsense. 

All this will almost certainly redound to Trump’s advantage at a time when everything is already cutting his way. 

That’s where we are with less than four months until the presidential election. To tweak a Trumpian favorite: GOD HELP AMERICA.

 

https://whowhatwhy.org/politics/after-8-years-of-violent-rhetoric-maga-media-blames-dems-for-trump-shooting/

[TBoneTX 45,014]

It was not long ago that the Congressional Democrats wanted to pass a bill to remove Trump's USSS protection altogether.

[TBoneTX 45,014]

6 hours ago, seekingthetruth said:

Hard to believe that this is just USSS incompetence.

Just listened to part of Clay Travis/Buck Sexton.  Buck is retired CIA; Clay is an attorney.

 

-- Buck says that this is catastrophic USSS failure in their ONE job.

-- Clay says that this is either gross criminal negligence (open to lawsuits) or intentional.

[Crazy Cat 41,594]

19 minutes ago, Family said:

Who could forget the ominous  It’s going to be a Bloodbath…

Context is always meaningful.  The chaos was the manufactured propaganda of the leftist media and the resistance to Democracy.. 

[Crazy Cat 41,594]

31 minutes ago, Family said:

The only mass political violence in America had been January 6, stoked by Trump, other Republicans, and Fox News. Most of the aggressive rhetoric in this country has come from the same crowd.

Wow!  Someone certainly has short memory....or is it selective memory?  This is ridiculously false and extremely dishonest. 

Edited July 15 by Crazy Cat

[Boiler 45,294]

No more OMB?

[TBoneTX 45,014]

3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

No more OMB?

Office of Management & Budget?

Osteopathic Medical Board?

Oregon Marching Band?

Olde Mecklenburg Brewery?

Oh My Bacon?

Edited July 15 by TBoneTX

[Family 3,988]

10 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Context is always meaningful.  The chaos was the manufactured propaganda of the leftist media and the resistance to Democracy.. 

No one wants to land on the wrong side of a gun barrel…context in important , as you say.

 

 "Can't you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?" Trump allegedly asked about the demonstrators protesting the death of George Floyd, according to the forthcoming memoir by former Defense Secretary Mark Esper.

 

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/02/trump-call-violence-presidency

[TBoneTX 45,014]

1 minute ago, Family said:

allegedly asked

Like most other "alleged" attributions.

If true, he might simply have been thinking out loud about a variety of options.

[Pooky 3,763]

21 minutes ago, Family said:

No one wants to land on the wrong side of a gun barrel…context in important , as you say.

 

 "Can't you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?" Trump allegedly asked about the demonstrators protesting the death of George Floyd, according to the forthcoming memoir by former Defense Secretary Mark Esper.

 

https://www.axios.com/2022/05/02/trump-call-violence-presidency

But only one person said “It’s time to put Trump in the bullseye” and that was Joe Biden. That’s where the buck stops.

[Family 3,988]

13 minutes ago, Pooky said:

But only one person said “It’s time to put Trump in the bullseye” and that was Joe Biden. That’s where the buck stops.

On a serious note , gun violence and the shooting are not condoned . 
 

On the lighter side , immunity /impunity arguments : 

 

 

Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity. Former President Trump's legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive's broad immunity to criminal prosecution.Jan 9, 2024

 

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4398223-trump-team-argues-assassination-of-rivals-is-covered-by-presidential-immunity/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite

[Pooky 3,763]

13 minutes ago, Family said:

On a serious note , gun violence and the shooting are not condoned . 
 

On the lighter side , immunity /impunity arguments : 

 

 

Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity. Former President Trump's legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive's broad immunity to criminal prosecution.Jan 9, 2024

 

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4398223-trump-team-argues-assassination-of-rivals-is-covered-by-presidential-immunity/mlite/?nxs-test=mlite

For a start, I believe the Posse Comitatus  Act provides that action by any regular military forces on US soil is strictly forbidden without the express approval of Congress, so that order would constitute a knowing breach of Presidential authority and therefore be an illegal order. 
 

And inciting a private citizen to carry out an assassination attempt by political rhetoric doesn’t pass the “official” act test, so a fail on that one, too.

 

In addition, the fake outrage over the presidential immunity ruling is simply more far-left mis- and disinformation, designed to scare the voting public into believing that it gives the President carte blanche to do whatever they want without fear of recourse, when all it does is codify what was inherently understood for the past 250 years, before Biden’s DOJ tried turning the country into a banana republic with their lawfare against a political rival.

 

It’s just nonsense.

[Dashinka 24,364]

1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

It was not long ago that the Congressional Democrats wanted to pass a bill to remove Trump's USSS protection altogether.

Old Corrupt Joe Biden refused to provide protection for RFK Jr.  Democrats are really pieces of work with their gaslighting, misinformation, and overall lack of knowledge.

[Family 3,988]

27 minutes ago, Pooky said:

It’s just nonsense.

Ain’t it, though……

 

Donald Trump boasted Saturday that support for his presidential campaign would not decline even if he shot someone in the middle of a crowded street.

“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,” Trump said at a campaign rally here.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

[Dashinka 24,364]

Just now, Family said:

Ain’t it, though……

 

 

Donald Trump boasted Saturday that support for his presidential campaign would not decline even if he shot someone in the middle of a crowded street.

“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,” Trump said at a campaign rally here.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

Wow, going all the way back to 2016.  Based on the decision by the U.S. Supreme Court, he could be prosecuted for that act btw.