[Master Thread] Attempted Trump Assassination (Including attempt on Sept 15, 2024)

[SneakyPete 75]

2 minutes ago, Family said:

Ain’t it, though……

 

 

Donald Trump boasted Saturday that support for his presidential campaign would not decline even if he shot someone in the middle of a crowded street.

“I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters,” Trump said at a campaign rally here.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/23/politics/donald-trump-shoot-somebody-support/index.html

Guess he was just a bit envious of VP ####### Cheney who actually did shot someone. 
Speaking of "bulleyes" where does this fall?

[Family 3,988]

5 minutes ago, SneakyPete said:

Guess he was just a bit envious of VP ####### Cheney who actually did shot someone. 
Speaking of "bulleyes" where does this fall?

Excellent question ….perhaps in the Just Mean Tweety category 😂

 

 

[TBoneTX 45,266]

48 minutes ago, Pooky said:

the Posse Comitatus Act

Bingo.  This seems "inconvenient" in terms of, e.g., enforcing the southern border, but we can all shudder to think how 0bummer would have used/abused this...

49 minutes ago, Pooky said:

doesn’t pass the “official” act test

Bingo.  As explained plainly and often on conservative radio and in conservative print.  The SCOTUS ruling exempts 0bummer for vaporizing that Afghan family, for one thing.

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Exclusive:  County Officer Warned of Seeing Man With Rangefinder Before Trump Was Shot

 

A Beaver County police officer warned a command center of seeing a man with a rangefinder before former president Donald Trump was shot on Saturday.  The officer had also warned the man was scoping out the roof of the building he was stationed in as a counter-sniper, and that the man returned with a backpack before ultimately scaling the building.

 

Despite all of those warnings, 20-year-old Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park was able to continue in his plan to become Trump's would-be assassin.  [...]

 

https://beavercountian.com/content/daily/beaver-county-officer-warned-of-seeing-man-with-rangefinder-before-trump-was-shot

[Family 3,988]

FBI investigators spent Monday morning speaking with people inside the Bethel Park home of Thomas Crooks, the man authorities say tried to assassinate former President Donald Trump.

Investigators later spoke with neighbors, trying to learn what may have motivated Crooks.

 

Records show Crooks donated $15 to a pro-Democratic Party political action committee in January 2021. But months later, records show he registered to vote as a Republican.

Neighbors said they saw pro-Trump signs in the Crooks' yard as recently as several months ago.

“There absolutely was MAGA-supporting signs for a while,” Little said.

 

https://www.wtae.com/article/thomas-crooks-fbi-investigation-trump-shooting/61603194

[TBoneTX 45,266]

15 minutes ago, Family said:

pro-Trump signs in the Crooks' yard

The father owns the house.

[Family 3,988]

 

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Here's a fascinating must-read by the author of "Rating America's Presidents," the only book in which presidents are rated on the basis of how good they were for America.  (I finally ordered that book and absolutely couldn't put it down.)  This article gives some details of history that few of us might know.

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Presidential Assassinations Have Always Aided the Democrats

 

There have been four assassinations of presidents in American history, and every one of them has aided the Democrats.  This is not to say that the Democrat party engineered the assassinations for its own advantage, but nevertheless, it's true: each time a president has been killed, the Democrats were the beneficiaries.  If Donald Trump had been murdered on Saturday evening, it would not have been the killing of a sitting president, but once again, the left would have reaped the benefits.  [...]

 

https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2024/07/15/presidential-assassinations-have-always-aided-the-democrats-n4930718

[TBoneTX 45,266]

In 2008, I read a fascinating article in the Billings Gazette -- behind a paywall -- about famous assassinations in history, and which of the victims could have survived had they been attacked in Billings in 2008.  I paid for access.  It's long, and I'm confident that the excerpts reproduced below (those only about Presidential assassinations, not the others) comply with VJ's "fair use" policy.

 

Garfield's story is ghastly.  Sadly, this was shortly before Joseph Lister et al. widely publicized germ theory and the necessity of sterile medical procedures.

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Famous assassinations:  Who could doctors save today?
 

Would Julius Caesar or John F. Kennedy have survived if they were attacked in Billings today?

Dr. Terry Housinger, a general surgeon at the Billings Clinic, tackled the topic of famous assassinations at a meeting of the History of Medicine Club, offering his audience of medical students and doctors a chance to reflect on the evolution of trauma care.

After describing the circumstances surrounding each famous assassination, Housinger offered his opinion on whether modern medicine could have saved those high-profile victims if the attack had occurred in Billings today.  Here's the gist of what Housinger gleaned from the historical record:

 

Abraham Lincoln

 

• The circumstances:  The first assassination of an American president came on the night of April 14, 1865, when Lincoln attended a performance of the comic melodrama "Our American Cousin" at Ford's Theater in Washington, D.C.

 

As part of a conspiracy plot, John Wilkes Booth, an actor, shot the president from the rear of the presidential box, leapt to the stage and cried, "Sic semper tyrannis" ("Thus always to tyrants"), Virginia's motto.
 

• The weapon:  Booth's single shot, at a distance of less than 5 feet, came from a .44-caliber derringer, a short stubby weapon.  The derringer had a medium muzzle velocity, a measure of the speed of a bullet as it leaves the barrel, of 900 feet per second.  It also had a relatively low muzzle energy of 350 foot-pounds.  In comparison, today's high-powered rifles get into the 3,000 range for muzzle energy.

 

• The wound: The bullet entered from behind the left ear and penetrated deep into Lincoln's skull.

 

• Medical attention: "At the scene, they did a form of CPR," Housinger said.

 

Because Lincoln stopped breathing shortly after he was shot, a couple of medical students tried to do an early form of cardiopulmonary resuscitation.

 

"CPR, the way they did it, was basically where they were pushing on his diaphragm from below and they were pulling up his arms," Housinger said.  "They actually got some respirations."

 

One of the physicians who was there kept pulling the clot out to minimize the damage caused by swelling.

"Their thought at the time, maybe one of the things they learned from Civil War trauma, was they wanted to keep pressure off the brain.  They would pull the clot off so he could freely bleed."

 

Lincoln moaned frequently and moved a little bit in his upper extremities but showed few other signs of life.  He was carried to a nearby house.

 

"There was a lot of hand wringing done in the next portion of his care.  About 10 hours later, he died," Housinger said.

In addition to the bleeding and tissue damage from the gunshot, the injury probably caused the brain to swell severely enough to cause the brain to herniate, or bulge downward, pushing the brain stem down toward the spinal column, which can cause death by stopping the body's control of basic functions such as breathing or heartbeat.

• Today's outcome:  In Billings, with good neurological care, Lincoln might have survived.  He probably could have been decompressed, relieving the swelling by using drugs or opening a portion of the skull to relieve pressure.  The operation might have required removing a portion of the brain.

 

If he survived, he would have been in a minimal vegetative state at best, Housinger said.

 

James A. Garfield
 

• The circumstances:  Four months after taking office, Garfield was assassinated by a disappointed job-seeker.  Garfield was the fourth president to die in office and the second to be assassinated.

He was shot on July 2, 1881, as he stood in a railroad station waiting to take a train to his 25th class reunion at Williams College.  The assassin, Charles J. Guiteau, stepped out of the crowd and fired two shots.

• The weapon:  Garfield was shot from a distance of less than 5 feet with a .44 caliber pistol.

• The wound:  The bullet passed within 3 to 4 inches of the president's spinal column.  It broke through the 11th rib of Garfield's back on the right side, causing injuries to the liver and soft tissues.

 

• Medical attention:  Wound probing.
 

Despite horrendous casualties during the Civil War, surgeons learned very little about trauma care from the war because there was no systematic method of evaluating the results of specific procedures.

 

"We didn't learn diddly squat from the Civil War.  People weren't of a mode to study how you could better take care of somebody who is badly injured.  They just did stuff," Housinger said.

Every doctor had his own ideas about treatment.

"One of the things these guys all did was they wanted to probe the wound.  I don't have any idea of what they thought they were going to do by probing the wound, but, by God, they did it.  They stuck their fingers in it and probed for the bullet.  Everybody was hung up on finding the bullet," he said.

Today, a bullet is often allowed to remain in place because digging around for it can cause more damage.

"They closed his wounds.  That was about it," Housinger said.

Garfield was tachycardic, having a very rapid heartbeat, and tachypneic, having abnormally rapid breathing.

On Sept. 19, 80 days after he was shot, Garfield died of sepsis, a widespread inflammation that happens when the body's normal reaction to an infection goes into overdrive.  The inflammation can cause dramatic changes in body temperature, blood pressure, breathing and heart rate, and it can spiral into multiple organ failure.

 

Garfield had abscesses, pockets of infection, throughout his abdomen, where his body had tried to wall off the infection in an attempt to contain it.  As Garfield struggled against death, he also became severely malnourished, dropping from 220 pounds to 130 pounds.

"He had any number of wound probings, not just that first night, but on down the way.  Everybody needed to stick their finger in," Housinger said.

At the time, there were no surgical gloves or antibacterial soaps.

• Today's outcome:  Doctors would have been able to treat his injuries and infection and been able to offer nourishment intravenously or through tube feedings.

"This was a no-brainer.  It would have been an unreasonable death by today's standard," Housinger said.

 

William McKinley
 

• The circumstances:  McKinley was six months into the start of his second term when he was shot by an assassin and Theodore Roosevelt assumed the presidency.

On Sept. 5, 1901, McKinley was shaking hands with people in a receiving line at the Pan-American Exposition in Buffalo, N.Y., when he was shot twice by Leon F. Czolgosz, a deranged anarchist.

• The weapon:  McKinley was shot at point-blank range with a .32-caliber revolver.  The revolver had a muzzle velocity of 780 feet per second.  The bullet had a fairly low energy of 130 foot-pounds.

• The wound:  The bullet hit McKinley's left upper abdomen and passed through his stomach.

• Medical attention: At first, McKinley was taken to a clinic on the exposition grounds, then to a hospital in Buffalo, where they operated to close his stomach wounds.

Although the surgeon had some experience with trauma, his primary doctor, an obstetrician-gynecologist, knew nothing about gunshot wounds, Housinger said.  McKinley also had two other doctors, famous cronies who were friends of the exposition's director.

Although they closed the holes in his stomach, they failed to débride him.  After a gunshot wound, surgeons débride soft-tissue wounds, removing dead or dying tissue, metal or bone fragments and other contaminants such as pieces of clothing, hair or skin.

As high-velocity projectiles penetrate the body, they cause shock waves that disrupt and destroy tissues as far as several inches from the bullet's path.  Failing to débride a wound increases the risk of infection and likelihood of complications including gangrene and death.

The doctors tried to look around to find the bullet, but, when McKinley's pulse became feeble, they quickly finished up the operation.  In their haste, they probably missed a number of injuries, Housinger said.

McKinley died nine days after the shooting, probably from sepsis and pancreatitis, an inflammation of the pancreas caused by injuries to the pancreas that the doctors overlooked.  The pancreas secretes digestive enzymes and produces several important hormones that regulate blood glucose levels.

McKinley also leaked digestive acids from the stomach into his abdomen and probably leaked pancreatic enzymes, which can digest the surrounding body tissue.

"Throughout the whole time he was trying to get over his illness, they gave him whiskey, and they gave him cognac and more whiskey and they gave him strychnine and then they gave him digitalis and quinine and they gave him more whiskey.

"That was pretty much it.  I don't know where people came up with the idea this was going to help him.  There was absolutely no science here, whatsoever, that I could see," Housinger said.

• Today's outcome:  "We would have had him out of the hospital in a week, 10 days max," Housinger said.

Surgeons would have treated his wound, recognized which organs were injured and débrided his abdomen and pancreas.

 

 

John F. Kennedy
 

• The circumstances:  Kennedy, the youngest man ever to be elected president, was barely past his first 1,000 days in office when he was shot as he rode in an open limousine during a motorcade through Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963.

The limousine raced to the nearby Parkland Hospital.  Kennedy never regained consciousness, and within two hours of his death Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson was sworn in as the 36th president.  Lee Harvey Oswald, who was charged with the murder, was shot two days later by Jack Ruby, a Dallas nightclub owner.

• The weapon:  The 6.5-mm rifle had a muzzle velocity of 2,200 feet per second and energy of 2,800 foot-pounds.  Kennedy was shot at a distance of about 200 yards.

• The wound:  One shot entered the back of JFK's head.  Another shot passed through his larynx.

• Medical attention:  He arrived at Parkland Hospital after a 15-minute limousine ride.  At the time, the program of Advanced Trauma Life Support training for emergency resuscitation and stabilization of seriously injured or ill patients did not exist.  But Kennedy was given full ATLS-style trauma care.

The ATLS training program, developed by the American College of Surgeons, simplified and standardized the treatment approach to trauma patients.  The premise of ATLS is to treat the greatest threat to life first.

The memory aid, or mnemonic, ABCDE, sets the order of handling injuries.  A stands for airway; B for breathing; C for circulation and bleeding control; D for disability or a neurological evaluation of brain function; and E for exposure and environment, meaning the patient is safe from environmental hazards.

Doctors intubated Kennedy through the wound the bullet had caused in his trachea by placing a tube into the trachea to protect his airway and provide a means for mechanical ventilation.  There was no heart or respiratory activity.

• Today's outcome:  "The bullet tore his skull apart completely," Housinger said, noting that JFK would have no chance of surviving today.

 

https://billingsgazette.com/lifestyles/famous-assassinations-who-could-doctors-save-today/article_978d85a3-6f92-5b79-84dc-a3389e7d2b44.html

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Democrats Order Flags To Be Flown At Half-Staff As Trump Still Alive

 

[...] Lawmakers on the left side of the political aisle admitted that it had been an emotional and difficult few days, with several prominent Democrats saying they didn't know if they would be able to continue with their normal duties after Trump sadly escaped being murdered by an assassin at a Pennsylvania campaign rally.

 

"We're all pretty broken up," admitted Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who had trouble holding back tears.  "We never envisioned a day where we would be standing here mourning Trump's lack of being assassinated… but here we are.  We will get through this.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-order-flags-to-be-flown-at-half-staff-as-trump-still-alive

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Secret Service Beefs Up Trump's Security With Squad Of Blind Midgets

 

U.S. — According to sources, the United States Secret Service plans to beef up Trump's security team with a squad of blind midgets.

"I have personally vetted these seeing-impaired persons of limited stature and certify them ready for deployment," Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle said in a statement.

Republican leadership questioned the effectiveness of these new agents but the agency dismissed their concerns as bigoted.  "They asked why they were so short and also why they kept bumping into things, and that's just not acceptable," Director Cheatle said.  "They are as devoted to their duty as they are physically handicapped."  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/secret-service-beefs-up-trumps-security-with-squad-of-disabled-midgets

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Vance Dons Helmet And Body Armor In Preparation To Run With Trump

 

U.S. — Trump's newly announced running mate JD Vance prepared to campaign with the former President today by donning a Kevlar helmet and body armor.

"I'm honored to have been picked to run alongside Donald Trump as a candidate for Vice President," said the young Senator from Ohio as he tightened the straps on his ballistic vest.  "I will do everything in my power to survive until November 5th."

Vance then dove for cover as several bullets whizzed overhead.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/vance-dons-helmet-and-body-armor-in-preparation-to-run-with-trump

[Dashinka 24,487]

14 hours ago, Family said:

Excellent question ….perhaps in the Just Mean Tweety category 😂

 

 

Was this Trump's truck?  Did Trump say Joe Biden should be put in a bullseye?  Btw, it looks like the picture is Joe Biden tied up, and sure, he has called Biden a criminal, and he does belong in handcuffs.  He is in fact, taking classified documents when he was a Senator and VeeP when he had no business possessing them, and other less politically connected people get prosecuted for.  He takes money from foreign countries via his son and political influence.  Maybe the SCOTUS decision can be reversed, and Joe Biden can be prosecuted for sending a missile at an innocent family as a wag the dog moment.  I know, you are an elitist supporter (most Democrats are), so there are different rules for your dear leaders, and Old Corrupt Petulant Joe is your hero.  

[Dashinka 24,487]

14 hours ago, SneakyPete said:

Guess he was just a bit envious of VP ####### Cheney who actually did shot someone. 
Speaking of "bulleyes" where does this fall?

Has anyone shot at Biden?  Seems it is only Democrats that actually are a political threat.

[Dashinka 24,487]

DEI strikes again.  Progress?  Will anyone answer in the Democrat DEI administration?  Cheatle should resign, so should Mayorkas, but alas, they will not as accountability is nowhere to be found in the failed Biden administration.

 

A Compromised Secret Service

 

Scene one: after President Trump ducks, a group of agents leaps to him and protects him with their bodies. A female agent who rushes to the stage acts bravely, without a doubt, but the point of the “huddle” is to protect the president. The agent was much shorter than President Trump, leaving his head and neck exposed after he stood up.

 

Scene two: as Trump enters the escape vehicle, a female Secret Service agent fumbles her gun and cannot find her holster; another female agent appears confused and, in the moment of crisis, decides to use both of her hands to put on her sunglasses; a third looks frightened and uncertain.

 

These agents wear the typical Secret Service outfits—Kevlar vests pressing against white shirts; black blazers with gold pins; dark sunglasses—but to an impartial observer, they do not appear to have the same poise, confidence, and strength as the male agents around them.

 

The obvious question: Why so many female agents? The answer, unfortunately, is the same as in many other institutions: DEI. The Secret Service has highlighted “diversity” as a key priority and its director, Kimberly Cheatle, named to the position in 2022, has pledged to increase dramatically the number of women in the ranks.

This is official policy. The Secret Service openly boasts that it “prioritizes recruiting women candidates” and has formulated an “affirmative action” plan to increase the number of women, LGBT, Native Americans, and other identity groups.

 

Cheatle herself told CBS News that her goal was to reach 30 percent female recruits by 2030: “I’m very conscious, as I sit in this chair now, of making sure that we need to attract diverse candidates and ensure that we are developing and giving opportunities to everybody in our workforce, and particularly women.” The agency is well on its way. In 2021, for the first time, the special agent training class graduated more women than men.

 

https://www.city-journal.org/article/a-compromised-secret-service

Edited July 16 by Dashinka