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Gary, I hope you do see that politics involves compromise. Just like when Congress may end up voting for a bill that on principal they don't agree with, sometimes it's the most logical choice under the circumstances. Your vote for President, as most Americans will be the same way.

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Gary, I hope you do see that politics involves compromise. Just like when Congress may end up voting for a bill that on principal they don't agree with, sometimes it's the most logical choice under the circumstances. Your vote for President, as most Americans will be the same way.

There are such things as "core values". On those values I will not compromise on. Some things are just wrong.

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i have not been impressed with the either party..i did not like bush///

or gore or kerry...

i do not see anyone with a new vision for this country, running either ..all, whatever party, are the typical run of the mill politicians...

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But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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i have not been impressed with the either party..i did not like bush///

or gore or kerry...

i do not see anyone with a new vision for this country, running either ..all, whatever party, are the typical run of the mill politicians...

so you like bush now? or still prefer baby smooth? :P

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i have not been impressed with the either party..i did not like bush///

or gore or kerry...

i do not see anyone with a new vision for this country, running either ..all, whatever party, are the typical run of the mill politicians...

so you like bush now? or still prefer baby smooth? :P

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Nope. It definitely factors in but mostly, it's because she is a good leader. I voted for her as NY Senator as well.

Devil, you got any examples of leadership from her?

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I don't remember Gary saying anything about the abortion rights issue being a dealbreaker for him.

Are you joking?

Abortion is like the #2 issue for conservative Reps! :wacko:

Putting words in my mouth Dev? I haven't and will not state my position on abortion.

No, most definitely not. Please re-read the above.

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I just read the most recent Economist which has a cover story Is America Turning Left? Interesting reading. I think it bolsters the idea that Hilary could win:

The Democrats are well positioned to retake the White House in 2008. True, the Republican front-runner, Rudy Giuliani, a “big tent” Republican who combines liberal views on abortion and gay marriage with stellar credentials as “America's mayor”, is a strong candidate. The Democratic front-runner, Hillary Clinton, suffers from high negatives and a scandal-prone husband. But the Clinton operation looks far more professional than Mr Giuliani's—and he has plenty of scandals of his own.

Overall, the Democrats are much more confident: 40% of Republicans believe that the Democrats will win, but just 12% of Democrats believe that the Republicans will win. They are more motivated: in the second quarter the two leading Democrats raised $60m, against just $32m for the two leading Republicans. And 61% of Democratic primary voters are happy with their choice of candidates, compared with only 36% of Republicans. Generic polls show voters expressing a preference for a Democratic president by a 24-point margin, a gap unheard of since the Watergate era.

The Democrats are also likely to keep Congress. The tide that enabled the party to pick up 31 House seats and six Senate seats in 2006, along with six governorships and 321 state-legislature seats, is still swelling. The Republicans will be defending more vulnerable Senate seats than the Democrats in 2008, and they are losing the race for cash. The public favours Democratic control of Congress by a margin of 10-15 points. Off the record, Republicans use words like “catastrophe” and “Armageddon” to refer to 2008.

The issues that people care about are also tipping the Democrats' way. A Pew Research poll in March discovered growing worry about income inequality combined with growing support for the social safety net. The proportion of Americans who believe that “the government should help the needy even if it means greater debt” has risen from 41% in 1994, at the height of the Republican revolution, to 54% today. The poll also revealed a decline in support for the things that drove the Republican resurgence in the mid-1990s, such as traditional moral values.

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I just read the most recent Economist which has a cover story Is America Turning Left? Interesting reading. I think it bolsters the idea that Hilary could win:

The Democrats are well positioned to retake the White House in 2008. True, the Republican front-runner, Rudy Giuliani, a “big tent” Republican who combines liberal views on abortion and gay marriage with stellar credentials as “America's mayor”, is a strong candidate. The Democratic front-runner, Hillary Clinton, suffers from high negatives and a scandal-prone husband. But the Clinton operation looks far more professional than Mr Giuliani's—and he has plenty of scandals of his own.

Overall, the Democrats are much more confident: 40% of Republicans believe that the Democrats will win, but just 12% of Democrats believe that the Republicans will win. They are more motivated: in the second quarter the two leading Democrats raised $60m, against just $32m for the two leading Republicans. And 61% of Democratic primary voters are happy with their choice of candidates, compared with only 36% of Republicans. Generic polls show voters expressing a preference for a Democratic president by a 24-point margin, a gap unheard of since the Watergate era.

The Democrats are also likely to keep Congress. The tide that enabled the party to pick up 31 House seats and six Senate seats in 2006, along with six governorships and 321 state-legislature seats, is still swelling. The Republicans will be defending more vulnerable Senate seats than the Democrats in 2008, and they are losing the race for cash. The public favours Democratic control of Congress by a margin of 10-15 points. Off the record, Republicans use words like “catastrophe” and “Armageddon” to refer to 2008.

The issues that people care about are also tipping the Democrats' way. A Pew Research poll in March discovered growing worry about income inequality combined with growing support for the social safety net. The proportion of Americans who believe that “the government should help the needy even if it means greater debt” has risen from 41% in 1994, at the height of the Republican revolution, to 54% today. The poll also revealed a decline in support for the things that drove the Republican resurgence in the mid-1990s, such as traditional moral values.

From another thread:

The chairman of a Midwest state party called Clinton a nightmare for congressional and state legislative candidates.

A Democratic congressman from the West, locked in a close re-election fight, said Clinton is the Democratic candidate most likely to cost him his seat.

A strategist with close ties to leaders in Congress said Democratic Senate candidates in competitive races would be strongly urged to distance themselves from Clinton.

"The argument with Hillary right now in some of these red states is she's so damn unpopular," said Andy Arnold, chairman of the Greenville, S.C., Democratic Party. "I think Hillary is someone who could drive folks on the other side out to vote who otherwise wouldn't."

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i have not been impressed with the either party..i did not like bush///

or gore or kerry...

i do not see anyone with a new vision for this country, running either ..all, whatever party, are the typical run of the mill politicians...

so you like bush now? or still prefer baby smooth? :P

Daniel

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LOL

bush= dickweed....asshat..chopf##k in my book

Peace to All creatures great and small............................................

But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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my burro, bosco ..enjoying a beer in almaty

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