'Why do you own a gun?'

[Lisa and Spence 0]

Ok we have 3 guns in our house, two riffles and a pump action shot gun.

why? well let me tell you, we live in Pine Hills, Orlando and there is a lot of crime and gang activity here, just last week two guys pulled a hand gun on our next door neighbour why he was getting the grocerys out the trunk of his car, they put the gun to his face and he was asked to hand over the keys.

He just pushed the gun back into the face of the guy and ran into the house to get his hand gun and call the cops, by the time he came back out the two blokes ran off, the cops came with sniffer dogs and caught one of the guys.

The police man asked if he had his gun on him when it happened would he have shot the guy, his reply was " yep, for sure"

Thats not all, a couple of months ago a guy was shot about 6 houses down from ours...crazy world.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Good choice Lucky Strike I've had a benelli M3 for years you'll love how smooth it functions. Ever see one of the videos by their professional shooters?

By the way a well regulated militia is about keeping the government from infringing on the right of the citizens. Has nothing to do with hunting or fighting the British. As hunting was considered something very normal that nearly all men participated in. While fighting the british was well over by the time the constitution was written. Well except for that little spat in 1812.

Oh and by the way they also ment for the citizenry to have the same small arms as the military.

Out of curiosity who is the "well regulated militia", and 'how' are they regulated?

As I understand it - the closest thing the US has to an organised militia is the National Guard.

[Heracles 417]

I enjoy my sig and glock

I'd love to hear your opinion on the Virginia Tech massacre - why you think it happened.

Wild Tangent is notorious for derailing topics. In fact, that's his specialty.

As are you and the "Fantastic 4" in dodging questions and providing half assed answers..

Out of the three questions not one was answered; apart form the usual dribble.

Edited August 9, 2007 by Boo-Yah!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I enjoy my sig and glock

I'd love to hear your opinion on the Virginia Tech massacre - why you think it happened.

Wild Tangent is notorious for derailing topics. In fact, that's his specialty.

As are you and the "Fantastic 4" in dodging questions and providing half assed answers..

Out of the three questions not one was answered; apart form the usual dribble.

Booyah, Steve is a pro at Baitin. That makes him a master.

Edited August 9, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[L_n_O 3]

weirdos

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Good choice Lucky Strike I've had a benelli M3 for years you'll love how smooth it functions. Ever see one of the videos by their professional shooters?

By the way a well regulated militia is about keeping the government from infringing on the right of the citizens. Has nothing to do with hunting or fighting the British. As hunting was considered something very normal that nearly all men participated in. While fighting the british was well over by the time the constitution was written. Well except for that little spat in 1812.

Oh and by the way they also ment for the citizenry to have the same small arms as the military.

Out of curiosity who is the "well regulated militia", and 'how' are they regulated?

As I understand it - the closest thing the US has to an organised militia is the National Guard.

The national guard is at the whim of the federal government. So the second amendment surely isn't giving the federal government even more power.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

weirdos

Really.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Good choice Lucky Strike I've had a benelli M3 for years you'll love how smooth it functions. Ever see one of the videos by their professional shooters?

By the way a well regulated militia is about keeping the government from infringing on the right of the citizens. Has nothing to do with hunting or fighting the British. As hunting was considered something very normal that nearly all men participated in. While fighting the british was well over by the time the constitution was written. Well except for that little spat in 1812.

Oh and by the way they also ment for the citizenry to have the same small arms as the military.

Out of curiosity who is the "well regulated militia", and 'how' are they regulated?

As I understand it - the closest thing the US has to an organised militia is the National Guard.

The national guard is at the whim of the federal government. So the second amendment surely isn't giving the federal government even more power.

But what is a "well regulated militia", and how is it regulated? What is mean't by that? As I read that phrase - it seems to me that it implies organisation.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I am my own militia,my home is my fort. I will die to protect it.

Edited August 9, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[GaryC 7]

Good choice Lucky Strike I've had a benelli M3 for years you'll love how smooth it functions. Ever see one of the videos by their professional shooters?

By the way a well regulated militia is about keeping the government from infringing on the right of the citizens. Has nothing to do with hunting or fighting the British. As hunting was considered something very normal that nearly all men participated in. While fighting the british was well over by the time the constitution was written. Well except for that little spat in 1812.

Oh and by the way they also ment for the citizenry to have the same small arms as the military.

Out of curiosity who is the "well regulated militia", and 'how' are they regulated?

As I understand it - the closest thing the US has to an organised militia is the National Guard.

The national guard is at the whim of the federal government. So the second amendment surely isn't giving the federal government even more power.

But what is a "well regulated militia", and how is it regulated? What is mean't by that? As I read that phrase - it seems to me that it implies organisation.

It goes back to the days during the revolutionary war. There was the regular army and the militia. Typically the army would look for volunteers among the farmers and townspeople. This was called "calling up the militia" They would bring their own weapons with them, hence the need for people to have guns. There is a secondary reason for the people to have the right to be armed. In case of an invasion the government wanted the people to have arms to repel the invaders. These reasons are now kind of moot but since it is in the bill of rights there is little chance of it being repealed. The American people see the right to own a gun as a basic right and it is going to be hard to change that.

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

Good choice Lucky Strike I've had a benelli M3 for years you'll love how smooth it functions. Ever see one of the videos by their professional shooters?

By the way a well regulated militia is about keeping the government from infringing on the right of the citizens. Has nothing to do with hunting or fighting the British. As hunting was considered something very normal that nearly all men participated in. While fighting the british was well over by the time the constitution was written. Well except for that little spat in 1812.

Oh and by the way they also ment for the citizenry to have the same small arms as the military.

Out of curiosity who is the "well regulated militia", and 'how' are they regulated?

As I understand it - the closest thing the US has to an organised militia is the National Guard.

The national guard is at the whim of the federal government. So the second amendment surely isn't giving the federal government even more power.

But what is a "well regulated militia", and how is it regulated? What is mean't by that? As I read that phrase - it seems to me that it implies organisation.

one example

http://www.michiganmilitia.com/

Because a well-armed citizenry is the best Homeland Security, and can better deter crime, invasion, terrorism, or tyranny...The intention of this MichiganMilitia.com website is to inform, promote and facilitate the development and training of the militia. Everyone is welcome, regardless of race, creed, color, tint, or hue; regardless of your religion (or lack thereof); regardless of your political affiliation (or lack thereof, with this caveat: If you intend to bring harm or destruction to our fellow citizens, you are NOT welcome); regardless of anything else: if you are a US Citizen or have declared your intent to become such, who is capable of bearing arms, or wishes to support someone doing so, then you ARE the militia...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Its really the 'well regulated' part that seems ambiguous to me (clearly someone or something must be doing the regulating) - also as you say, the concept of a militia has changed since the revolutionary war - so I think people focus on the the "people's right to bear arms shall not be infringed" rather than the caveats in front of it.

One thing that's interesting about the right to bear arms is that it was taken almost verbatim from an English constitution dated in the 1600s, which the founding fathers used as a model to develop their own.

Good choice Lucky Strike I've had a benelli M3 for years you'll love how smooth it functions. Ever see one of the videos by their professional shooters?

By the way a well regulated militia is about keeping the government from infringing on the right of the citizens. Has nothing to do with hunting or fighting the British. As hunting was considered something very normal that nearly all men participated in. While fighting the british was well over by the time the constitution was written. Well except for that little spat in 1812.

Oh and by the way they also ment for the citizenry to have the same small arms as the military.

Out of curiosity who is the "well regulated militia", and 'how' are they regulated?

As I understand it - the closest thing the US has to an organised militia is the National Guard.

The national guard is at the whim of the federal government. So the second amendment surely isn't giving the federal government even more power.

But what is a "well regulated militia", and how is it regulated? What is mean't by that? As I read that phrase - it seems to me that it implies organisation.

one example

http://www.michiganmilitia.com/

Because a well-armed citizenry is the best Homeland Security, and can better deter crime, invasion, terrorism, or tyranny...The intention of this MichiganMilitia.com website is to inform, promote and facilitate the development and training of the militia. Everyone is welcome, regardless of race, creed, color, tint, or hue; regardless of your religion (or lack thereof); regardless of your political affiliation (or lack thereof, with this caveat: If you intend to bring harm or destruction to our fellow citizens, you are NOT welcome); regardless of anything else: if you are a US Citizen or have declared your intent to become such, who is capable of bearing arms, or wishes to support someone doing so, then you ARE the militia...

That still doesn't explain how they are regulated. What are the regulations and who is doing the regulating?

Also - wasn't the Oklahoma Bombers affiliated to the Michigan Militia?

[aki 3]

i don't know much about guns. i was shocked when my fiance told me that he is a collector of such. he has more than 90 of different kinds in his house. he already even bought me a pistol that i can use when i get there. learning how to shoot is one of the things i want to learn. i almost entered the phil. military academy way back my college years in baguio city. im not a violent person but carrying guns is a good idea since my fiance is a cop (was an army for 14 years).

guns are really his "addiction".

[bgreed 0]

The Militia as defined by us code is any male between the ages of 18 and 60. So that means you and me! A militiaman supplies his own weapon which is to be just like what the regular military uses. Hence well regulated. It has nothing to do with any governmental agency regulating it. You have been under the influence of big governmenr for much too long. Not everything or everyone has always been regulated or overseen by them nor has there ever been a need for it.

Again for those that were sleeping in history class and have never done any further reading into the constitution or the thinking and history behind it. The second amendment has NOTHING to do with repelling invaders, hunting, or most of the other things mentioned above. It has EVERYTHING to do with the ability to protect themselves and the inalienable rights mentioned in the constitution from intrusion by THE GOVERNMENT. In other words it is the last resort of the people when the government has gone out of control and needs to be brought back into line with the principles originally set forth in the constitution and the original bill of rights.

If you remember your history the colonists had just fought a war for independance from a government that was infringing on their rights as English citizens "Taxation without representatation" as well as infringements on religion and a host of other areas that were never mentioned in your high school history class.

Why is it that Americans born and bred here are so ignorant about The most important document in their history. A document that literally changed the role in government in many places around the world. A document that is the very foundation of who, what and why The United States is. I'm really beginning to think that everyone should be required to take a test on the constitution and its history everyother year just so they can remember how import this document and what it says is to our lives here.

[Heracles 417]

Interesting Stat:

A gun in the home is 43 times more likely to be used to kill a family member or friend or to commit suicide than to defend oneself.