A request

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Here is my classification of noobs, in order from good noob to bad noob.

Upon reflection, I consider this to be a comprehensive and well-ordered list, si man.

Concur.

Yes, noobz thread is more about jest than anything else. People should really stop taking themselves seriously. If you post anything online, you are welcoming comments. If you just want nice lovey comments, share the stuff with your mamma.

[Susita 175]

Hey guys!

I just hang around to bash Starbucks, not new people!

I also enjoy volleyball, photoshopping, drinking Dunkin Donuts, and yelling at Trolls.

I luv everybody (except Mr. Saran Wrap).

Seriously, the n0obz thread (I thought) was to make funny at trolls and people who ask silly questions or strange ones (like ...I just broke up with my American husband and we never got married, so can I still hang out in the US and marry his best friend) - or things of that nature. I do that in real life. We can start calling them dummiez if you want though!

Everybody who chats with me knows I'll help out whenever needed

I'd like to admit that I'm still pretty noobalicious myself.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Well, yes, if you post things online you should expect it to be commented on, that is true and it includes what you post in the Noobs thread, though I have noticed over time that there are many people who can dish it out but the certainly can't take it when the tables are turned.

No is is taking themselves seriously except maybe Scandal with his comprehensive noobs list. Has that been submitted ot TOS? What do the mods think? Has Ewok weighed in? Or is scandal really that important that he gets his own amendments to TOS? This usually doesn't happen without a discussion taking place here first.

But I take this website seriously in that it offers invaluable advice to people who are about to undertake the 3 most stressful things a person is likely to experience in life: marriage, moving (to another country no less!) and immigration.

And I have noticed a lot more "trolls" turning up since the beginning of this noob thread. I'd hedge a bet that it's mostly just y'all creating a little drama to comment on, which is fine if it was taking place in OT. I really do have a problem if it is someone who is a real person who is either 1. asking a dumb question (a review of most people's post history will reveal that they once did the same) 2. venting a little frustation (see the paratheses in 1.)

This website is kind of like Mean Girls, only with middle aged men and women instead of teenagers.

Hmmm. Ok. This is apparently about me.

It's not about you it's about everyone who piled in after you posted a link. As they say in the UK, it wasn't big and it wasn't clever.

[Niels Bohr 72]

If you don't know the rules, don't do the lecture.

All senior members were at the n00b stage. Atleast in one of those categories.

[Susita 175]

Ewok is the only one who has never been a n0ob.

Edited June 25, 2009 by Susita

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Well, yes, if you post things online you should expect it to be commented on, that is true and it includes what you post in the Noobs thread, though I have noticed over time that there are many people who can dish it out but the certainly can't take it when the tables are turned.

No is is taking themselves seriously except maybe Scandal with his comprehensive noobs list. Has that been submitted ot TOS? What do the mods think? Has Ewok weighed in? Or is scandal really that important that he gets his own amendments to TOS? This usually doesn't happen without a discussion taking place here first.

But I take this website seriously in that it offers invaluable advice to people who are about to undertake the 3 most stressful things a person is likely to experience in life: marriage, moving (to another country no less!) and immigration.

And I have noticed a lot more "trolls" turning up since the beginning of this noob thread. I'd hedge a bet that it's mostly just y'all creating a little drama to comment on, which is fine if it was taking place in OT. I really do have a problem if it is someone who is a real person who is either 1. asking a dumb question (a review of most people's post history will reveal that they once did the same) 2. venting a little frustation (see the paratheses in 1.)

This website is kind of like Mean Girls, only with middle aged men and women instead of teenagers.

sister I take the immigration part of the website seriously; and I give advise when I know what I am talking about. The OT section of VJ is not something to take seriously.

as to the bolded part: are you seriously accusing any of us of creating trolls? ####### girl, you know better.

Edited June 25, 2009 by *Len*

[Susita 175]

as to the bolded part: are you seriously accusing any of us of creating trolls? ####### girl, you know better.

Why would we create trolls? I've got 2 little trolls running around over here already LOL.

[*julez* 124]

I don't believe any of us is talking about the cess pool that is OT, but rather the K1 forum and the Effect of major Changes forum (for 2 examples) - where people are constantly abused.

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Well, yes, if you post things online you should expect it to be commented on, that is true and it includes what you post in the Noobs thread, though I have noticed over time that there are many people who can dish it out but the certainly can't take it when the tables are turned.

No is is taking themselves seriously except maybe Scandal with his comprehensive noobs list. Has that been submitted ot TOS? What do the mods think? Has Ewok weighed in? Or is scandal really that important that he gets his own amendments to TOS? This usually doesn't happen without a discussion taking place here first.

But I take this website seriously in that it offers invaluable advice to people who are about to undertake the 3 most stressful things a person is likely to experience in life: marriage, moving (to another country no less!) and immigration.

And I have noticed a lot more "trolls" turning up since the beginning of this noob thread. I'd hedge a bet that it's mostly just y'all creating a little drama to comment on, which is fine if it was taking place in OT. I really do have a problem if it is someone who is a real person who is either 1. asking a dumb question (a review of most people's post history will reveal that they once did the same) 2. venting a little frustation (see the paratheses in 1.)

This website is kind of like Mean Girls, only with middle aged men and women instead of teenagers.

sister I take the immigration part of the website seriously; and I give advise when I know what I am talking about. The OT section of VJ is not something to take seriously.

as to the bolded part: are you seriously accusing any of us of creating trolls? ####### girl, you know better.

yeah, I have been a member of this site for quite some time and am familiar with the work of some of its more prolific posters

I'm not talking about OT, Sister Len, I don't care what people do there as long as it's not racist. I'm talking about linking to upper forums for people to come from OT to pile on.

And seriously, I had to laugh when someone in the noob thread linked to a post by none other than meauxna, who's probably done more to than any of you to help others on their journeys over time as though she shouldn't have an opinion about it. nOOb indeed!

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Gotcha. But did you gotcha too that we are not creating the drama? OPs are - exposing their ludicrous ohai can i marry my second boyfriend instead of petitioner plz cockamamie stories?

I talked things over with sister meauxna; and we are all quite happy she is back, btw.

[*julez* 124]

Thank God she has your blessing.

Even if the noobs ask questions that you perceive to be stupid does not give you the right to bash them. It speaks volumes about the type of person you are if you think its OK.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

n/m

Edited June 25, 2009 by *Len*

[scandal 951]

Well, yes, if you post things online you should expect it to be commented on, that is true and it includes what you post in the Noobs thread, though I have noticed over time that there are many people who can dish it out but the certainly can't take it when the tables are turned.

No is is taking themselves seriously except maybe Scandal with his comprehensive noobs list. Has that been submitted ot TOS? What do the mods think? Has Ewok weighed in? Or is scandal really that important that he gets his own amendments to TOS? This usually doesn't happen without a discussion taking place here first.

No, it's not been submitted to TOS, nor should it be. I am not "that important". These are not "amendments to TOS". As I stated, these are simply my own personal "rules of engagement", dictating what I think personally is a reasonable way to decide how to react to posts I see on VJ. We all have such rules, even if they are implicit and not formalized. You do too - you decide which threads interest you, which to read, which to comment on, what comments to make. The only difference is I chose to share my list with you, in a (obviously failed) attempt to show you that I think they are reasonable and not as mean-spirited as you think I am. Probably if you wrote down your methodology for deciding how/what/when to post on VJ, it would look different than my list, but have some overlap. I bet we agree pretty much entirely on category 1, for example.

But I take this website seriously in that it offers invaluable advice to people who are about to undertake the 3 most stressful things a person is likely to experience in life: marriage, moving (to another country no less!) and immigration.

And I have noticed a lot more "trolls" turning up since the beginning of this noob thread. I'd hedge a bet that it's mostly just y'all creating a little drama to comment on, which is fine if it was taking place in OT. I really do have a problem if it is someone who is a real person who is either 1. asking a dumb question (a review of most people's post history will reveal that they once did the same) 2. venting a little frustation (see the paratheses in 1.)

I'm not sure about that there are more trolls now than previously. Maybe that's true. We have one recurring poster.. a fellow who goes by saran, and various pseudonyms, who was banned from VJ entirely by Ewok & mods. He keeps coming back, that's a new phenomenon.

I can assure you personally that I have never posted a trolling thread, never created an alternate ID on VJ, etc. I cannot speak for others.

I appreciate and respect that you "really do have a problem..." Perhaps we just have to agree to disagree on some things.

[LaL 418]

It's pretty funny to see the noob bashing sport being defended so emphatically

[Chica Yeyé 41]

It's pretty funny to see the noob bashing sport being defended so emphatically

it's PWNING sister LaL, PWNING