A request

[scandal 951]

does it work for those whose panties are still in a bunch about the closed thread?

cause the new one seems to work fine, but without the links for coordinated gang bangs on the noobs.

The new site is fine. It's fun. As you've apparently lurked into it, you'll see that we're back to our raucous old selves. In some ways even better -- new peeps like Steve and MC and Daniel that never cared much for n00bz have decided to participate in C4C. They are welcome! So are any fun loving irreverent sorts.

But I agree with Sister Suzy. I do miss the old thread. It's funny how just the very name of a thread lends its character to it. And I do have a bitter aftertaste in my mouth after what I personally feel was an uncalled for shut-down by Ewok. I know others feel the same. Ewok says he shut it down after his warning went unheeded. Sorry - I don't see it that way. His previous post was not an explicit warning about what was or was not going to be considered acceptable, or the fact that it was a shutdown threat at all. If that's the kind of warning I give my kids before serving out discipline I'd say that's negligent parenthood. You want to get a certain type of behavior? Make clear the terms, no pussyfooting around.

Back to C4C ...we do kid around over there.. we tease each other, poke fun, but always in good humor. I've yet to see ONE mean interchange in the entire history of n00bz/C4C [* one exception I can think of...]

Over here on this piece of crud thread? Everybody bitching and moaning, Smoke said this, Julez said that, Mox said the other, Saying Expats is ok, Saying Expats is not ok.

For chrissake, I'll take pix of red commies over THIS nonsense any old day!

[The exception? Way back on like Day #2 of n00bz, I got into a slingfest with consolemaster about cold fusion. Ok, so I didn't know him so well back then and took him a bit too seriously. Would I do that now? No way! Brother c'master and I are good buds now Unlike you lot over here, from what I can tell....]

chill....

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

I know I promised not to use this ID anymore but you know what? I lied.

If Ewok wants to make VJ a noob-friendly site once again, all he has to do is shut down users who only post on OT (like me) and go medieval on anyone being rude or snarky or the slightest bit facetious towards newbies or anyone asking questions.

By these standards, I and many of the people I consider 'friends' on this site should be rightfully banned immediately.

It would work if the site whose name can not be mentioned, holy be its name, wasn't like a tomb most of the time, and like a high school locker room the rest of the time.

[Susita 175]

The new site is fine. It's fun. As you've apparently lurked into it, you'll see that we're back to our raucous old selves. In some ways even better -- new peeps like Steve and MC and Daniel that never cared much for n00bz have decided to participate in C4C. They are welcome! So are any fun loving irreverent sorts.

But I agree with Sister Suzy. I do miss the old thread.

I like the new thread too. Nice people over there. I don't particularly like this thread though. Bye everybody, there's plenty of iced coffee, Dunkin Donuts, commie pics and propaganda at commies4christ, see ya there sometime?

Once they realize it's not going anywhere it's going to be closed anyways

I was talking about this thread BTW.... adios

[scandal 951]

Charles,

This one is for you.

Get to work, old chap!

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Oh sweet jesus, how ironic that thenoobs were being mocked for their whining.

I've got a nice, mature cheddar that will go quite nicely with it. Do you like stilton? Or is that too stinky?

[meauxna 15]

Gotcha. But did you gotcha too that we are not creating the drama? OPs are - exposing their ludicrous ohai can i marry my second boyfriend instead of petitioner plz cockamamie stories?

Hi again, Len, flameproof panty time again.

(just hitch hiking off your post)

One thing I've observed is that (maybe due to) the more limited scope of 'normal' VJ participation, questions that seem like a wind up or put on or 'trolling' or 'idiot noob' situations here actually reflect what is normal for thousands of immigrants and wanna be immigrants out there. I have a whole bunch of theories on why people act that way and ask 'stupid' questions but we'll never solve that here... what we CAN control is the way we respond to such people.

That's what I liked about Tracy's opening post in this thread.. If you don't know the answer, don't say anything! Don't guess, don't opine, answer the question with a source, or get out of the way. That's how these poor question askers get so confused in the first place, from second hand ill informed opinions being posted and told to them.

There are dozens of every day immigration scenarios posted here that are 'fun' for people to pig pile on because they don't fit "the" norm for VJ. But those people are still human individuals and they need a solution to their problem. They do NOT need to be mocked further, or have their situation posted somewhere for others to come join in on, like printing it in the National Enquirer. They do not need to be posted about in another thread and made fun of. If this isn't the right forum for them, they need to be directed to the right one.

This site has become popular, people are going to come here and ask questions because they think people here have some answers or help for them. Making fun of someone who comes from different circumstances, culture, values, religion etc than you... where does it end? WHO is 'worthy' of your serious reply? Oh wait, someone has a list, but again, who is judge, jury & executioner of that criteria?

If there are members you sincerely think are registering accounts just for the fun of it, use the report button. Demand that your Admin and Mods keep duplicate accounts under control. Ask them to 'invisible' contentious posts. Ask them to respond faster if that's what you need. But beating up (I don't care what you want to call it, that's what it is) on members whose story is new to you should be really unacceptable.

I'm not really back, I just like to drop in every now and then.. I miss lots of people from here. As I was cruising around, I found lots of people who seem to agree with what I just wrote. I was really happy to see that others came forward in this thread to agree.

Then I was really disappointed to see YET another thread dragged totally off track and the discussion disrupted, by people 'having fun'. Boundaries, people, boundaries!

oh yeah, the posts I wanted to highlight.

I think all the accusations of people being trolls tends to make it self fullfilling, people ask questions hoping for answers and in return are often accused of a variety of things, and they are forced into a cycle of defending themselves or leaving. If someone really wanted to troll this place it would take little effort, it's so easy to bait people in this forum, if a person is really trolling the thread would never die, far too many people here feed the trolls, the only real danger to spoiling a good troll here is thread closings...

Every board I've ever been on has been like that. Especially boards that have long-established cliques of addicted users who've gotten used to each other. I am relatively new to this board but I feel like I've been here longer, because it is so much like every other board on the Web.

There are no shortage of other websites for these kinds of games. I don't think VJ should be one of them. Can't you kids have some wholesome fun here, and dont' you have another site where you can go have the kind of fun you're talking about, with each other?

On a related subject, I wonder how it would go in the immigration forums if one's first reply to a new post was mandated to be in the form of a question to solicit more information?

There's a lot of filling in of the blanks going on.

[Ban Hammer 13,337]

Charles,

This one is for you.

Get to work, old chap!

she's on roller skates, how am i supposed to catch her?

[scandal 951]

Oh sweet jesus, how ironic that thenoobs were being mocked for their whining.

I've got a nice, mature cheddar that will go quite nicely with it. Do you like stilton? Or is that too stinky?

Ironic? That's rain on your wedding day. Or perhaps it's a black fly in your chardonnay?

The mature cheddar will be nice. Preferably a Canadian Black Diamond, or a Wisconsin one. I'm not as partial to English varieties.

I'll pass on the stilton. I do like raclette though, if you have some!

Charles,

This one is for you.

Get to work, old chap!

she's on roller skates, how am i supposed to catch her?

Run! Faster! Faster!!!!

[meauxna 15]

And I do have a bitter aftertaste in my mouth after what I personally feel was an uncalled for shut-down by Ewok. I know others feel the same. Ewok says he shut it down after his warning went unheeded. Sorry - I don't see it that way. His previous post was not an explicit warning about what was or was not going to be considered acceptable, or the fact that it was a shutdown threat at all. If that's the kind of warning I give my kids before serving out discipline I'd say that's negligent parenthood. You want to get a certain type of behavior? Make clear the terms, no pussyfooting around.

Get used to the way of the Jedi, young scandal. At least it was only one thread you lost out on.

Anyway, IMO, never gonna happen. Ask me why I have 5+ years worth of that opinion some time. (no wait, please don't! )

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

Ironic? That's rain on your wedding day. Or perhaps it's a black fly in your chardonnay?

The mature cheddar will be nice. Preferably a Canadian Black Diamond, or a Wisconsin one. I'm not as partial to English varieties.

I'll pass on the stilton. I do like raclette though, if you have some!

It's 10,000 spoons when all you need a knife to cut the mature Canadian cheddar I'll be serving with the whine.

We miss you too meauxna. Agree 100% with all your points

[rebeccajo 14]

And I do have a bitter aftertaste in my mouth after what I personally feel was an uncalled for shut-down by Ewok. I know others feel the same. Ewok says he shut it down after his warning went unheeded. Sorry - I don't see it that way. His previous post was not an explicit warning about what was or was not going to be considered acceptable, or the fact that it was a shutdown threat at all. If that's the kind of warning I give my kids before serving out discipline I'd say that's negligent parenthood. You want to get a certain type of behavior? Make clear the terms, no pussyfooting around.

Get used to the way of the Jedi, young scandal. At least it was only one thread you lost out on.

Anyway, IMO, never gonna happen. Ask me why I have 5+ years worth of that opinion some time. (no wait, please don't! )

Ah, gawan, gawan, gawan.................

[scandal 951]

And I do have a bitter aftertaste in my mouth after what I personally feel was an uncalled for shut-down by Ewok. I know others feel the same. Ewok says he shut it down after his warning went unheeded. Sorry - I don't see it that way. His previous post was not an explicit warning about what was or was not going to be considered acceptable, or the fact that it was a shutdown threat at all. If that's the kind of warning I give my kids before serving out discipline I'd say that's negligent parenthood. You want to get a certain type of behavior? Make clear the terms, no pussyfooting around.

Get used to the way of the Jedi, young scandal. At least it was only one thread you lost out on.

Anyway, IMO, never gonna happen. Ask me why I have 5+ years worth of that opinion some time. (no wait, please don't! )

Pleased to meet you, the name's Ron, I don't go out of my way to make enemies, I far prefer friends. But I also stand my ground, just so's ya know.

All's fine and good, but please don't call me young.

I'm many things, but no longer young.

You may have VJ seniority on me, but that's about where it ends.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

sister meauxna has spoken wisely, and I agree with your main points indeed. And I, for one, am a frequent user of the report button. I use it as much as I type "please read the guides" and "ask an organizer to move you to so and so thread so you get more responses".

Though I do think that when anyone posts something online, specially really personal #######, they are exposing themselves to all kinds of responses. Not just the ones they like. Immigration law does not care if we (and I include myself on the "we") think it's unfair, sluggish, anti-family unit, bla bla. The law is what it is. And I think you help more people telling them off the bat "yup, USCIS svcks. Read up the guides, and get ready for a bumpy ride" than to go all Pollyanna and say "oh, don't worry, it will ALL be ok". Naaa, don't think so.

But again, I see your point. And it must be said, even when the mods do the best job they can, they are human beings. They have their own opinions on what is inappropriate that are -obviously- not what everyone thinks. And sometimes they take things way out of proportion or become suspension happy or go into deletion frenzies that make no sense. And no, I am not taking a jab at any specific mod.

Now, about'em panties with flame retardant... I have a friend that farts too much.... would said panties help my friend????

[meauxna 15]

Ah, gawan, gawan, gawan.................

heh, as if. I'm sure you know where to find the threads. Oops, probably right in this forum!

sister meauxna has spoken wisely, and I agree with your main points indeed. And I, for one, am a frequent user of the report button. I use it as much as I type "please read the guides" and "ask an organizer to move you to so and so thread so you get more responses".

Though I do think that when anyone posts something online, specially really personal #######, they are exposing themselves to all kinds of responses. Not just the ones they like. Immigration law does not care if we (and I include myself on the "we") think it's unfair, sluggish, anti-family unit, bla bla. The law is what it is. And I think you help more people telling them off the bat "yup, USCIS svcks. Read up the guides, and get ready for a bumpy ride" than to go all Pollyanna and say "oh, don't worry, it will ALL be ok". Naaa, don't think so.

If you've taken my comments to mean that the collective we should blow sunshine up everyone's azz, you couldn't BE more wronger! I seem to recall the fluffy kittieh posse not liking a lot of my straight talk either. A review of my posts will surely show that.

It's pretty clear that it's sport for a group of people. While I appreciate the warm comments of the past couple of days, I'm hardly going to get upset if people don't 'like' it that I'll speak up for the new folk who phear speaking up.

I don't advocate giving people only the answers they want. I also don't advocate organized mocking of the people who come here for help.

Now, about'em panties with flame retardant... I have a friend that farts too much.... would said panties help my friend????

I think your friend should look into those charcoal-embedded panties for catching their, er, aroma problem.

Pleased to meet you, the name's Ron, I don't go out of my way to make enemies, I far prefer friends. But I also stand my ground, just so's ya know.

All's fine and good, but please don't call me young.

I'm many things, but no longer young.

You may have VJ seniority on me, but that's about where it ends.

Hi Ron, nice to meet you too, but speaking of taking oneself a bit on the serious side... familiar with the Star Wars much?

How's that friend-making working out?

[scandal 951]

Hi Ron, nice to meet you too, but speaking of taking oneself a bit on the serious side... familiar with the Star Wars much?

How's that friend-making working out?

Star Wars? Never heard of it.

Meesa make good friends, meesa liking all happy VJ peeps, okeeday?