From ground zero to the gates of N400

[Nash.Thompson 0]

Instead of nagging about the processing time and how unlucky my timeline is with all the happenings in the world, it's been 5.5 years between i129f and as of today i'm eligible for citizenship, meaning applying and another 6-12-24 months of waiting to be in a limbo of maybe after burning every bridge selling everything i had etc and basically no turning back, but some random office clerk can still have a bad day and say bye.. ok that was nagging i'm sorry i'm frustrated. we don't want to have kids, don't want to invest in a jointly owned property or anything that needs to be reverted in case of a bad decision. and that was it. so here is what i'm really here for

 

i'm waiting for my removal of conditions since a year, uscis website saying we're actively reviewing (speaking of the mills of god), so my question is if we wait for a little longer ie until my initial 2yr green card expires, how likely that they'll issue a 10yr unconditional without an interview? i got the notice of a 48mo expansion so it does not per say expire.

 

we just want the least of stress for both of us. so if i get the conditions removed without an interview we can start planning our life, get our real life started kids, house, whatnot, then after xyz years i apply for citizenship by myself and no one will question our love anymore. or there will 100% for sure be an interview with my wife before anything else happens? we have 0 issues with anything everything is by the book, no lies, no fake data, no domestic violence we didn't even get a parking ticket in our lives and submitted massive evidence (other than joint property and kids) of our relationship. probably irrelevant but i'm an engineer so contributing towards the tax bucket more than my wife does.

 

please don't quote the law/rules word by word, i know them better than i ever wanted, i'd like to hear actual possibilities outcomes and a 'plan' of any kind to go on with to avoid talking to someone who can destroy a family on the making.

like if to just ask for a combined interview because that'd be the fastest, or to wait, or to do whatever needs to be done.

thank you

[OldUser 6,608]

It's impossible to predict with certainty whether you're going to be approved without interview or not. Imagine you're going through airport security. This is similar experience in terms of predictibility. I don't fully understand why you paused your life because of immigration though. Good luck!

[Dashinka 24,480]

6 hours ago, Nash.Thompson said:

Instead of nagging about the processing time and how unlucky my timeline is with all the happenings in the world, it's been 5.5 years between i129f and as of today i'm eligible for citizenship, meaning applying and another 6-12-24 months of waiting to be in a limbo of maybe after burning every bridge selling everything i had etc and basically no turning back, but some random office clerk can still have a bad day and say bye.. ok that was nagging i'm sorry i'm frustrated. we don't want to have kids, don't want to invest in a jointly owned property or anything that needs to be reverted in case of a bad decision. and that was it. so here is what i'm really here for

 

i'm waiting for my removal of conditions since a year, uscis website saying we're actively reviewing (speaking of the mills of god), so my question is if we wait for a little longer ie until my initial 2yr green card expires, how likely that they'll issue a 10yr unconditional without an interview? i got the notice of a 48mo expansion so it does not per say expire.

 

we just want the least of stress for both of us. so if i get the conditions removed without an interview we can start planning our life, get our real life started kids, house, whatnot, then after xyz years i apply for citizenship by myself and no one will question our love anymore. or there will 100% for sure be an interview with my wife before anything else happens? we have 0 issues with anything everything is by the book, no lies, no fake data, no domestic violence we didn't even get a parking ticket in our lives and submitted massive evidence (other than joint property and kids) of our relationship. probably irrelevant but i'm an engineer so contributing towards the tax bucket more than my wife does.

 

please don't quote the law/rules word by word, i know them better than i ever wanted, i'd like to hear actual possibilities outcomes and a 'plan' of any kind to go on with to avoid talking to someone who can destroy a family on the making.

like if to just ask for a combined interview because that'd be the fastest, or to wait, or to do whatever needs to be done.

thank you

There is no reason to put life on hold while awaiting the I751.  It sounds like you followed the rules, filed the I751 properly with a great deal of evidence, so the outcome should be positive.  The issue is the I751 tends to take a long time (hence the 48 month extension letter), and most of it is the package simply collecting dust in someone's inbox.  If you wish to become a citizen and you are eligible to apply, there is no need to wait for the I751 to be finalized to file the N400.

 

Additionally, no one can predict if you will have an interview for the I751.  Some people seem to think if a couple had an AOS you may not get one for the ROC, but no one knows for sure.  In our case (much like yours, I129F, K1, AOS, ROC, and N400), things moved pretty fast for the K1 process and AOS, but when it came time for us to file the ROC, it was right at the time USCIS was slowing down processing of that application.  My wife received a 12 month extension letter back then (Dec 2016), and there was no new extension letter issued, so everyone who filed at that time or after were asking how to get ADIT stamps about a year later.  In my wife's case, she decided to file her N400 in January 2018, and that process from filing to oath was a little over 5 months.  We did have a very short joint I751 interview, but like you we submitted a lot of marital comingling evidence with the I751, so the IO simply reviewed the form and then proceeded with my wife's N400 interview.

 

You should be fine overall, but don't think you have to put your life on hold for the sake of USCIS.

 

Good Luck!

[Crazy Cat 41,814]

6 hours ago, Nash.Thompson said:

as of today i'm eligible for citizenship,

Subit the N-400.  There is a very decent possibility for a combo interview (or no I-751 interview at all).  You could be rid of USCIS by Christmas.

Edited June 25 by Crazy Cat

[powerpuff 6,685]

I echo others saying to not put your life on hold. Why give USCIS so much power to control your life like that? We applied for ROC in November 2023. I just applied and forgot about it; I’m fully expecting it to take several years. If they call us for an interview - no problem, if not - that’s great too. In the meantime, we have purchased joint property and are actively working on other family goals together.
 

Don’t let USCIS stop your life like that. You have passed AOS, showed plenty of evidence of bonadife marriage, and are still happily married, why worry about them denying your case when there is no indication there is marriage fraud or anything like that? 

[top_secret 2,409]

If you are eligible to file N400 and intend to do so then just focus on getting that done and forget about the I751 unless USCIS reminds you.  Allot of N400s are getting interviews really fast lately and would probably get the I751 approval at the same interview.

[GEOntificator 281]

15 hours ago, Nash.Thompson said:

Instead of nagging about the processing time and how unlucky my timeline is with all the happenings in the world, it's been 5.5 years between i129f and as of today i'm eligible for citizenship, meaning applying and another 6-12-24 months of waiting to be in a limbo of maybe after burning every bridge selling everything i had etc and basically no turning back, but some random office clerk can still have a bad day and say bye.. ok that was nagging i'm sorry i'm frustrated. we don't want to have kids, don't want to invest in a jointly owned property or anything that needs to be reverted in case of a bad decision. and that was it. so here is what i'm really here for

 

i'm waiting for my removal of conditions since a year, uscis website saying we're actively reviewing (speaking of the mills of god), so my question is if we wait for a little longer ie until my initial 2yr green card expires, how likely that they'll issue a 10yr unconditional without an interview? i got the notice of a 48mo expansion so it does not per say expire.

 

we just want the least of stress for both of us. so if i get the conditions removed without an interview we can start planning our life, get our real life started kids, house, whatnot, then after xyz years i apply for citizenship by myself and no one will question our love anymore. or there will 100% for sure be an interview with my wife before anything else happens? we have 0 issues with anything everything is by the book, no lies, no fake data, no domestic violence we didn't even get a parking ticket in our lives and submitted massive evidence (other than joint property and kids) of our relationship. probably irrelevant but i'm an engineer so contributing towards the tax bucket more than my wife does.

 

please don't quote the law/rules word by word, i know them better than i ever wanted, i'd like to hear actual possibilities outcomes and a 'plan' of any kind to go on with to avoid talking to someone who can destroy a family on the making.

like if to just ask for a combined interview because that'd be the fastest, or to wait, or to do whatever needs to be done.

thank you

Unless you have a reason as to why USCIS will deny your petition then I see absolutely no reason as to why you put family things on hold. Especially that you are already a resident even though conditional. Unless you have something in your background that could bar you or affect your immigration (criminal history, lying to the USCIS and etc) then there is no reason to be concerned. I'd say you have a better chance of getting struck by lightening then having your residency taken away. Even if the petition gets denied for USCIS error, missing documents and other administrative things you can refile. Only the immigration judge can take your residency away (That will happen only if your petition gets denied, your get Notice to Appear and then you do nothing to remedy this). That said you have plenty of opportunities to appeal and prove your case in the case of a bad outcome for your current pending petition.

 

All the above assumes no funky business in your background.

[Nash.Thompson 0]

thank you everyone for your reassuring replies. i'll arrange a meeting with our lawyer friend and have a talk then apply for citizenship then. surely nothing to hide. just the horror stories that giving frightening nightmares is all. of people having children and solid jobs yet getting denied but those were only probably told us to take things seriously rather than taking things lightly. fingers crossed.

 

i truly have no two match sticks to put together in the country where i came from. and am 41 i'm here since 5+ years. so starting everything from scratch is virtually impossible. (not really but you get my point not to mention losing my wife..)

[Crazy Cat 41,814]

1 hour ago, Nash.Thompson said:

just the horror stories that giving frightening nightmares is all. of people having children and solid jobs yet getting denied

Very few I-751s and N-400s are denied.  During the quarter ending 3/31/204, only 1 out of every ten non-military N-400s were denied, and only about 1 out of every twenty I-751s were denied by USCIS:

 

quarterly_all_forms_fy2024_q2.xlsx (live.com)

 

If you consider the number of denied cases later appealed or resubmitted successfully, the denial rate is extremely small.

Edited June 25 by Crazy Cat