US Supreme Court says citizens can't sue over foreign spouses' visa denials

[Family 4,065]

45 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

That is exactly the issue.  Bureaucrats have to weigh a lot despite their level of training, and no one wants to let in another San Bernadino couple.

True that…we have our own Timothy McVeighs , Supreme Leader  Dindu Nuffin extremists ticked off at duh goobment deep state rebels 😂

[Dashinka 24,639]

18 minutes ago, Family said:

True that…we have our own Timothy McVeighs , Supreme Leader  Dindu Nuffin extremists ticked off at duh goobment deep state rebels 😂

Not really looking to get into a political discussion in this forum, and consulate bureaucrats really have little power over domestics extremists, so not really a relevant comparison.

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4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Not really surprising AILA would issue a response like this as it could hamper an income stream.  Btw, life altering decisions are made everyday by bureaucrats.

This is the big thing.

 

As always follow the money.

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Not really looking to get into a political discussion in this forum, and consulate bureaucrats really have little power over domestics extremists, so not really a relevant comparison.

Yup

 

That is for CEHST

[KMG 132]

5 hours ago, harry.st said:

would you exclude, say, close relatives of Bin Laden? (who, incidentally, lived peacefully in NYC - even after 9/11, iirc)

This is very interesting...

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[TBoneTX 45,603]

9 hours ago, thonati said:

set up a "pre-authorization" whereby the foreign national does the background check first to see if they will be approved

Unless this idea needs more elaboration, I think that there are too many ways in which this could be "gamed."  One example is corrupt officials in other countries who would "approve" anyone for financial or political reason.

 

Second, the U.S. background checks are so secret that not even consular officers know what's involved, so how would an individual outside the country be able to satisfy the U.S.'s requirements?

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From a practical perspective going to the trouble of approving someone who is not qualified for a visa is a waste of time and effort.

[thonati 37]

On 6/24/2024 at 7:52 PM, TBoneTX said:

Unless this idea needs more elaboration, I think that there are too many ways in which this could be "gamed."  One example is corrupt officials in other countries who would "approve" anyone for financial or political reason.

 

Second, the U.S. background checks are so secret that not even consular officers know what's involved, so how would an individual outside the country be able to satisfy the U.S.'s requirements?

My point is not to use the background check for the Visa process.  It is for the fiance to perform the background check prior to application.  You know, like a Private Investigator

[TBoneTX 45,603]

6 hours ago, thonati said:

My point is not to use the background check for the Visa process.  It is for the fiance to perform the background check prior to application.  You know, like a Private Investigator

Ah -- thanks.  Seems to me that regular people without high security clearances wouldn't have access to the full spectrum of security steps (or to request them), and that information learned might expire before the visa process proceeded.  In addition, these checks might be open to abuse -- e.g., a "petitioner" wouldn't be interested in petitioning at all, but rather in finding dirt on someone overseas for blackmail or harassment.  Sorry for suggesting negative possibilities, but they came to mind.

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10 hours ago, thonati said:

My point is not to use the background check for the Visa process.  It is for the fiance to perform the background check prior to application.  You know, like a Private Investigator

 

Would this apply to Consulate cases

 

Or Adjustment cases

 

Or all Marriages?

[igoyougoduke 1,662]

On 6/29/2024 at 9:44 AM, thonati said:

My point is not to use the background check for the Visa process.  It is for the fiance to perform the background check prior to application.  You know, like a Private Investigator

 for the person who filed this case in SCOTUS, and was a lawyer. she was not bright enough to know that gang member was marrying her.. Love is really dumb and blind some times 

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26 minutes ago, igoyougoduke said:

Love is really dumb and blind some times 

And even worse than "really," after divorce.