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Hello,

 

I am preparing to file a petition for my girlfriend. I have been through the process twice in the distant past, once for a K1, once for a CR1. I filed these my myself, in 2004 and 2010 respectively. Both succeeded.

 

I am up to date on the processing times, particularly the insane situation with the CR1s.

 

I am turning over in my mind which path to choose. I am visiting her this week for 15 days - we previously spent 7 weeks together last year, and will spend another 16 day together at Christmas and New Year.

 

We would either file fiancee upon after I return from my visit, or marry via Utah virtually during my visit.

 

If it makes a difference, I have multiple previous marriages: the last, which was the CR1 visa, lasted 14 years. Also, if it makes a difference, I am 57, Krissy will turn 21 during my visit.

 

Any thoughts or advice would be gratefully accepted.

 

Thanks,

 

Jon

Met in Ormoc, Leyte, Philippines: 2007-05-17
Our son was born in Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines: 2009-04-01
Married in Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines: 2009-10-24
CR-1 Visa - California Service Center; Consulate - Manila, Philippines
I-130 mailed: 2010-04-13
I-130 NOA1: 2010-04-24
I-130 NOA2: 2010-09-30
NVC received case: 2010-10-14
Case Complete: 2010-12-01
Interview scheduled: 2010-12-06
Medical, St. Luke's, Manila: 2010-12-09 and 2010-12-10
Interview at US Embassy in Manila 8:30 AM: 2011-01-05 - Approved!
Visa delivered: 2011-01-08
CFO Seminar completed: 2011-01-10
My beloved wife Sol and my beautiful son Nathan arrive in the U.S. (POE San Francisco): 2011-01-26
Lifting Conditions - Vermont Service Center
Date mailed: 2012-11-01
Receipt date: 2012-11-05
NOA received: 2012-11-09
Biometrics letter received: 2012-11-16
Biometrics appointment date: 2012-12-10
Biometrics walk-in successful: 2012-11-20
Removal of Conditions approved date: 2013-04-27
10 year green card mailed: 2013-05-03
10 year green card received: 2013-05-06
Citizenship
N400 mailed: 2013-10-28
N400 delivered: 2013-10-31
NOA1: 2013-11-04
Biometrics: 2013-11-18
In Line: 2013-12-26
Interview scheduled: 2013-12-30
Interview: 2014-02-03

Oath ceremony queue: 2014-02-07

Oath ceremony: 2014-03-28 Sol is a U.S. citizen

Applied for expedited passport: 2014-04-01

Passport received, Priority Express: 2014-04-09 This is journey's end at last!

Naturalization certificate returned, Priority Mail: 2014-04-12

Passport card received, First Class: 2014-04-14

1457 days, I-130 mailed to passport in hand

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Normally that age difference might raise eyebrows but not PI.

 

Ditto multiple marriages.

 

I would still go with the Marriage route.

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My age gap is not so great--24 years--but I decided to go the marriage route because the K-1 path seems to involve too much of a chance to be discriminated against by the government agents involved on both sides. Having a marriage license is better "proof" than proving a relationship in other ways; it at least shows a level of seriousness and commitment, especially since marriages often come with photos of happy family members, a reception, etc. that give the impression of a bona fide relationship.

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I would prefer to do the CR1, but over 2 years to complete this process seems completely insane. What the devil is going on with that? Rhetorical, I know no one knows. These agencies seem to have no accountability whatsoever. It is hard not to think less than a year is superior to 26 months plus!

Met in Ormoc, Leyte, Philippines: 2007-05-17
Our son was born in Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines: 2009-04-01
Married in Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines: 2009-10-24
CR-1 Visa - California Service Center; Consulate - Manila, Philippines
I-130 mailed: 2010-04-13
I-130 NOA1: 2010-04-24
I-130 NOA2: 2010-09-30
NVC received case: 2010-10-14
Case Complete: 2010-12-01
Interview scheduled: 2010-12-06
Medical, St. Luke's, Manila: 2010-12-09 and 2010-12-10
Interview at US Embassy in Manila 8:30 AM: 2011-01-05 - Approved!
Visa delivered: 2011-01-08
CFO Seminar completed: 2011-01-10
My beloved wife Sol and my beautiful son Nathan arrive in the U.S. (POE San Francisco): 2011-01-26
Lifting Conditions - Vermont Service Center
Date mailed: 2012-11-01
Receipt date: 2012-11-05
NOA received: 2012-11-09
Biometrics letter received: 2012-11-16
Biometrics appointment date: 2012-12-10
Biometrics walk-in successful: 2012-11-20
Removal of Conditions approved date: 2013-04-27
10 year green card mailed: 2013-05-03
10 year green card received: 2013-05-06
Citizenship
N400 mailed: 2013-10-28
N400 delivered: 2013-10-31
NOA1: 2013-11-04
Biometrics: 2013-11-18
In Line: 2013-12-26
Interview scheduled: 2013-12-30
Interview: 2014-02-03

Oath ceremony queue: 2014-02-07

Oath ceremony: 2014-03-28 Sol is a U.S. citizen

Applied for expedited passport: 2014-04-01

Passport received, Priority Express: 2014-04-09 This is journey's end at last!

Naturalization certificate returned, Priority Mail: 2014-04-12

Passport card received, First Class: 2014-04-14

1457 days, I-130 mailed to passport in hand

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10 minutes ago, Jon and Krissy said:

It is hard not to think less than a year is superior to 26 months plus!

The VJ member reported average processing from filing to interview is 20 months (CR-1) vs 14 months (K-1).  But the time to a Green Card is faster with a spousal visa.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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18 minutes ago, Jon and Krissy said:

I would prefer to do the CR1, but over 2 years to complete this process seems completely insane. What the devil is going on with that? Rhetorical, I know no one knows. These agencies seem to have no accountability whatsoever. It is hard not to think less than a year is superior to 26 months plus!

 

It is absolutely insane, yes. For us, the chance of an officer just having a bad day and determining our non-married relationship was not bona fide was simply not worth it.

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43 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

The VJ member reported average processing from filing to interview is 20 months (CR-1) vs 14 months (K-1).  But the time to a Green Card is faster with a spousal visa.

Understood, but it seems to be longer for CR1 in Manila than that average, and shorter than that average for K1...

41 minutes ago, Nathan Alden, Sr. said:

 

It is absolutely insane, yes. For us, the chance of an officer just having a bad day and determining our non-married relationship was not bona fide was simply not worth it.

I do see your point. I'll have to tell Krissy. Two years is a long time when you're young. For me, not so long...

Met in Ormoc, Leyte, Philippines: 2007-05-17
Our son was born in Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines: 2009-04-01
Married in Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines: 2009-10-24
CR-1 Visa - California Service Center; Consulate - Manila, Philippines
I-130 mailed: 2010-04-13
I-130 NOA1: 2010-04-24
I-130 NOA2: 2010-09-30
NVC received case: 2010-10-14
Case Complete: 2010-12-01
Interview scheduled: 2010-12-06
Medical, St. Luke's, Manila: 2010-12-09 and 2010-12-10
Interview at US Embassy in Manila 8:30 AM: 2011-01-05 - Approved!
Visa delivered: 2011-01-08
CFO Seminar completed: 2011-01-10
My beloved wife Sol and my beautiful son Nathan arrive in the U.S. (POE San Francisco): 2011-01-26
Lifting Conditions - Vermont Service Center
Date mailed: 2012-11-01
Receipt date: 2012-11-05
NOA received: 2012-11-09
Biometrics letter received: 2012-11-16
Biometrics appointment date: 2012-12-10
Biometrics walk-in successful: 2012-11-20
Removal of Conditions approved date: 2013-04-27
10 year green card mailed: 2013-05-03
10 year green card received: 2013-05-06
Citizenship
N400 mailed: 2013-10-28
N400 delivered: 2013-10-31
NOA1: 2013-11-04
Biometrics: 2013-11-18
In Line: 2013-12-26
Interview scheduled: 2013-12-30
Interview: 2014-02-03

Oath ceremony queue: 2014-02-07

Oath ceremony: 2014-03-28 Sol is a U.S. citizen

Applied for expedited passport: 2014-04-01

Passport received, Priority Express: 2014-04-09 This is journey's end at last!

Naturalization certificate returned, Priority Mail: 2014-04-12

Passport card received, First Class: 2014-04-14

1457 days, I-130 mailed to passport in hand

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Hang in there, gents! I personally went the K-1 route. For my fiancée and I, starting our life together side-by-side asap is a higher priority than time to green card in hand.

 

I believe multiple K-1 visa applications are allowed. You would need a waiver if the previous K-1 application was within the last 2 years. You wouldn't have to worry about that since it's been quite some time since your last K-1 application. If you search the forums, you'll find few folks that have gone through multiple K-1 filer process successfully.

 

I highly doubt the age gap would be an issue. It's pretty common in PI. I think you'll be okay with either K-1 or CR-1 as long as you provide sufficient evidence.

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Spicy Chickenjoy said:

Hang in there, gents! I personally went the K-1 route. For my fiancée and I, starting our life together side-by-side is a higher priority than time to green card in hand.

 

I believe multiple K-1 visa applications are allowed. You would need a waiver if the previous K-1 application was within the last 2 years. You wouldn't have to worry about that since it's been quite some time since your last K-1 application. If you search the forums, you'll find few folks that have gone through multiple K-1 filer process successfully.

 

I highly doubt the age gap would be an issue. It's pretty common in PI. I think you'll be okay with either K-1 or CR-1 as long as you provide sufficient evidence.

 

 

 

 

That's just the thing - for us, being together ASAP is the priority also. Which is why I'm so torn about which way to go. Most people seem to say to stick with the CR1 despite the horrible delay. I'm feeling doubtful and uncertain. 

Met in Ormoc, Leyte, Philippines: 2007-05-17
Our son was born in Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines: 2009-04-01
Married in Borongan, Eastern Samar, Philippines: 2009-10-24
CR-1 Visa - California Service Center; Consulate - Manila, Philippines
I-130 mailed: 2010-04-13
I-130 NOA1: 2010-04-24
I-130 NOA2: 2010-09-30
NVC received case: 2010-10-14
Case Complete: 2010-12-01
Interview scheduled: 2010-12-06
Medical, St. Luke's, Manila: 2010-12-09 and 2010-12-10
Interview at US Embassy in Manila 8:30 AM: 2011-01-05 - Approved!
Visa delivered: 2011-01-08
CFO Seminar completed: 2011-01-10
My beloved wife Sol and my beautiful son Nathan arrive in the U.S. (POE San Francisco): 2011-01-26
Lifting Conditions - Vermont Service Center
Date mailed: 2012-11-01
Receipt date: 2012-11-05
NOA received: 2012-11-09
Biometrics letter received: 2012-11-16
Biometrics appointment date: 2012-12-10
Biometrics walk-in successful: 2012-11-20
Removal of Conditions approved date: 2013-04-27
10 year green card mailed: 2013-05-03
10 year green card received: 2013-05-06
Citizenship
N400 mailed: 2013-10-28
N400 delivered: 2013-10-31
NOA1: 2013-11-04
Biometrics: 2013-11-18
In Line: 2013-12-26
Interview scheduled: 2013-12-30
Interview: 2014-02-03

Oath ceremony queue: 2014-02-07

Oath ceremony: 2014-03-28 Sol is a U.S. citizen

Applied for expedited passport: 2014-04-01

Passport received, Priority Express: 2014-04-09 This is journey's end at last!

Naturalization certificate returned, Priority Mail: 2014-04-12

Passport card received, First Class: 2014-04-14

1457 days, I-130 mailed to passport in hand

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1 hour ago, Jon and Krissy said:

That's just the thing - for us, being together ASAP is the priority also. Which is why I'm so torn about which way to go. Most people seem to say to stick with the CR1 despite the horrible delay. I'm feeling doubtful and uncertain. 

I feel you! Tough decision indeed. Let us know what path you end up taking. Wishing you the best!

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