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Hi all,

I've been reading that a U.S. spouse can file for citizenship 3 years from the date on the I-551. I was under the impression that it was 90 days before the 3 year anniversary, similar to the I-751 (lifting conditions) requirement. Am I wrong about that?

Thanks!

Matt

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Matt (Boston) & Helen (Wales)

04/17/04 - married in Newport, South Wales, UK

I-129F

05/18/04 - mailed I-129F to Chicago

06/07/04 - I-129F received by Chicago (According to receipt date on NOA1. Don't know what took so long)

06/17/04 - NOA1 for I-129F

12/20/04 - I-129F APPROVAL

I-130

05/04/04 - mailed I-130 to Vermont Service Center (VSC)

05/17/04 - NOA1 for I-130

07/21/04 - Wife arrives in US on visa waiver (no questions asked at JFK POE, nice)

08/15/04 - I-130 APPROVAL

08/31/04 - NVC receives I-130 from VSC

09/17/04 - NVC assigns case number

09/30/04 - NVC sends DS-3032 to benificiary (UK)

09/30/04 - NVC sends DS-3032 and I-864 fee bill to petitioner

10/04/04 - DS-3032 and I-864 fee bill received by petitioner

10/06/04 - DS-3032 and I-864 fee bill delivered to NVC

10/07/04 - DS-3032 received by beneficiary (moot, already sent petitioner's copy to NVC)

10/07/04 - NVC enters DS-3032 into system

10/16/04 - Wife goes back to the UK because her visa waiver is almost up.

10/18/04 - NVC sends IV fee bill

10/20/04 - IV fee bill received by petitioner

10/22/04 - IV fee bill delivered to NVC

10/26/04 - NVC sends I-864 packet

10/28/04 - I-864 packet received by petitioner

11/01/04 - I-864 packet delivered to NVC

11/02/04 - NVC system says IV fee bill payment received

11/10/04 - NVC sends DS-230 packet

11/12/04 - DS-230 packet received by petitioner

11/16/04 - DS-230 packet delivered to NVC

11/18/04 - NVC system says DS-230 packet received

12/21/04 - A-Holes at the NVC confirm losing my I-864 documents and request that I resubmit everything.

12/27/04 - NVC receives my resubmitted I-864 packet

12/28/04 - CASE COMPLETE!!!

01/05/05 - Case forwarded to London Embassy!

01/25/05 - Packet 4 received!!

Interview is Feb. 15!!!

Visa Granted!!!!!

03/08/05 - Wife arrives in US permanently

03/14/05 - Wife applies for SSN at local SS office

03/18/05 - SS card arrives in mail

04/04/05 - Plastic Green Card arrives in mail along with two welcome letters

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Canada
Timeline

You can submit your Naturalization application 90 days before the 3rd anniversary that you were granted Permanent Resident status (the date on your GC).

Edited by raymaga

"THE SHORT STORY"

KURT & RAYMA (K-1 Visa)

Oct. 9/03... I-129F sent to NSC

June 10/04... K-1 Interview - APPROVED!!!!

July 31/04... Entered U.S.

Aug. 28/04... WEDDING DAY!!!!

Aug. 30/04... I-485, I-765 & I-131 sent to Seattle

Dec. 10/04... AOS Interview - APPROVED!!!!! (Passport stamped)

Sept. 9/06... I-751 sent to NSC

May 15/07... 10-Yr. PR Card arrives in the mail

Sept. 13/07... N-400 sent to NSC

Aug. 21/08... Interview - PASSED!!!!

Sept. 2/08... Oath Ceremony

Sept. 5/08... Sent in Voter Registration Card

Sept. 9/08... SSA office to change status to "U.S. citizen"

Oct. 8/08... Applied in person for U.S. Passport

Oct. 22/08... U.S. Passport received

DONE!!! DONE!!! DONE!!! DONE!!!

KAELY (K-2 Visa)

Apr. 6/05... DS-230, Part I faxed to Vancouver Consulate

May 26/05... K-2 Interview - APPROVED!!!!

Sept. 5/05... Entered U.S.

Sept. 7/05... I-485 & I-131 sent to CLB

Feb. 22/06... AOS Interview - APPROVED!!!!! (Passport NOT stamped)

Dec. 4/07... I-751 sent to NSC

May 23/08... 10-Yr. PR Card arrives in the mail

Mar. 22/11.... N-400 sent to AZ

June 27/11..... Interview - PASSED!!!

July 12/11..... Oath Ceremony

We're NOT lawyers.... just your average folks who had to find their own way!!!!! Anything we post here is simply our own opinions/suggestions/experiences and should not be taken as LAW!!!!

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You can submit your Naturalization application 90 days before the 3rd anniversary that you were granted Permanent Resident status (the date on your GC).

True, but only if you meet all the other naturalization requirements. Kirts timeline looks like a CR-1 visa. Note that, in order to be eligible to submit the N-400 90 days before the three year application, you must have been living together in valid marital union for three full years on the date you file the N-400.

For someone who got a green card via adjustment of status, there's normally no issue -- they were living together for well more than three months before LPR status was granted. But for a CR-1 case, they may not have been living together until the day the alien arrived in the US with LPR status.

The requirement is stated on page 22 of the M-476 as "You may send your application before you have met the requirement for continuous residence only. Therefore, you must still have been married to and living with your U.S. citizen spouse for 3 years before you may file your application." The law has slightly different language, and the regulation has still other different language, and the published interpretations put a different slant on things. I'm not sure how literally to interpret the "and living with" phrase in the M-476. I don't know the final answer, but the subject has been discussed in considerable depth on this VJ thread.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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Hello,

everything is quite simple. the answers to the question of citizenship are clearly represented here. follow this link. it'll give you more information than you could expect.

http://www.foreignborn.com/visas_imm/immig...g_my_spouse.htm

Good luck

Uhmm, No. That page covers the most rudimentary basics of how to get a green card based on marriage. It doesn't discuss how to become a citizen after one has a green card; or at least if it does, such discussion must be buried beneath many other links.

If, as you say, everything is quite simple, and the answers are clearly represented in the linked text, then please point me to where it gives the answer to this question: Can an alien who has been married to a USC for more than three years, but has only lived with his/her spouse for two years and ten months, and has had lawful permanent resident status since the day of entry to the US two years and ten months ago, file an N-400 for naturalization? Assume the alien is otherwise eligible. In other words, do the initial months of marriage while living apart in separate countries count as living in valid marital union with the USC spouse for the purposes of 8 CFR 319.1 and INA 319(a)? Please cite your authority, because whichever answer you give, I believe I can quote from a statute, regulation, publication, and/or published interpretation that would tend to suggest the opposite. I don't know the answer to this question, and it's very relevant to our situation. I don't believe that "everything is quite simple".

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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