USEM CR1/IR1 Interview Documents CENOMAR PSA AoM

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25 minutes ago, michaeljm116 said:

Update: After sending back our State of Utah Marriage certificate with a CENOMAR, we got Refused again.

 

Still waiting to get back about why we got refused. We only were notified on the site itself with no details.

 

Here is one of the response emails they sent a while ago about why she got the denial at the interview. Based off this email and what they say on the travel.state.gov site, she should not be getting denied since their only purpose is to make sure she's not married to anyone else. This is such contradictory nonsense.

That email said to also drop off the original copy and your passport at the VAC or send it to the embassy.  Did you do that?

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Yep, we did that

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22 hours ago, michaeljm116 said:

Update: After sending back our State of Utah Marriage certificate with a CENOMAR, we got Refused again.

 

Still waiting to get back about why we got refused. We only were notified on the site itself with no details.

 

Here is one of the response emails they sent a while ago about why she got the denial at the interview. Based off this email and what they say on the travel.state.gov site, she should not be getting denied since their only purpose is to make sure she's not married to anyone else. This is such contradictory nonsense.

 

 

That is frustrating.  Even in their e-mail response they clearly mention the policy that it is a CENOMAR or an Advisory on Marriages and the purpose is only to show that there are no undisclosed marriages.  If you have not yet, maybe do get the ROM going as a last ditch contingency.  Maybe re-submit the CENOMAR along with a detailed letter of explanation that you have ordered an Advisory on Marriages from PSA and they provided the CENOMAR and say it is the correct document by PSA's records?  I'm wondering if you got some trainee counsel who does not yet have a basic understanding of Philippine laws or if this new VAC has introduced a layer of non-thinking check-box checking staff.  Ultimately they cannot make an Advisory on Marriages specifically into a hard requirement because doing so would amount to a total ban for a number of otherwise fully qualified couples.  It's clearly confusion on the part of the embassy but obviously a difficult situation to deal with.

 

 

Just double checking.  You did upload it to CEAC too?

 

Edited Friday at 11:14 PM by top_secret

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On 1/11/2025 at 7:13 AM, top_secret said:

 

 

That is frustrating.  Even in their e-mail response they clearly mention the policy that it is a CENOMAR or an Advisory on Marriages and the purpose is only to show that there are no undisclosed marriages.  If you have not yet, maybe do get the ROM going as a last ditch contingency.  Maybe re-submit the CENOMAR along with a detailed letter of explanation that you have ordered an Advisory on Marriages from PSA and they provided the CENOMAR and say it is the correct document by PSA's records?  I'm wondering if you got some trainee counsel who does not yet have a basic understanding of Philippine laws or if this new VAC has introduced a layer of non-thinking check-box checking staff.  Ultimately they cannot make an Advisory on Marriages specifically into a hard requirement because doing so would amount to a total ban for a number of otherwise fully qualified couples.  It's clearly confusion on the part of the embassy but obviously a difficult situation to deal with.

 

 

Just double checking.  You did upload it to CEAC too?

 

 

Update: Actually it turns out we got the visa!!! Initially it was refused on Jan 8th but then they changed it to Issued on the 10th and again on the 13th.

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44 minutes ago, michaeljm116 said:

 

Update: Actually it turns out we got the visa!!! Initially it was refused on Jan 8th but then they changed it to Issued on the 10th and again on the 13th.

 

Congratulations!! 

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11 hours ago, michaeljm116 said:

 

Update: Actually it turns out we got the visa!!! Initially it was refused on Jan 8th but then they changed it to Issued on the 10th and again on the 13th.

 

Congrats!!!

 

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12 hours ago, michaeljm116 said:

Update: Actually it turns out we got the visa!!! Initially it was refused on Jan 8th but then they changed it to Issued on the 10th and again on the 13th.

 

 

Do be aware however that your wife may also face some blowback from CFO about not having the ROM filled.  She could say you just filed one and they said it would take 6 months and show the Utah marriage certificate.  They may hassle her a bit on that topic but ultimately they still have to let her go.