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My wife and I recently married In Renosa Mexico but there is a legal minister there who married us and got us a marriage license from Brownsville Texas so what show I put where it says where we're you and your current spouse married? We were in Renosa Mexico but the license was done by the minister and then sent to me from Brownsville Texas 

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That sounds very suspect

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Mexico isn't Texas...your Marriage was in Mexico. You should have a Mexican MC

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A Texas marriage license is good anywhere in Texas, but nowhere in Mexico, border town or not.  Did you report the marriage to the county clerk in Brownsville also to convert the license into a marriage certificate?

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4 hours ago, brandonC said:

I'm confused 

It's a legal marriage from the state of Texas because Reynosa Mexico is a border town

That’s not how that works.  
 

How would the state of Texas have jurisdiction over legal marriages performed in Mexico?

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The example Texas Marriage Licenses I see online don't say where the ceremony was performed.  It does say "County of Marriage" and then "(blank) County, Texas".

 

A Texas marriage license shouldn't be valid for a marriage in Mexico.

 

On the application you put the town or city in Mexico where you got married.  That's truthful.  And you include the Texas Marriage License.  And you wait to see what happens next.

 

If they give you an RFE because they can't reconcile it, one of the options is to get married again.  A Utah Online marriage would be valid.  A Vegas wedding would be valid.  (The Clark County, Nevada marriage license does require the officiant to say exactly where the marriage was performed.  Mine did.)  Even a Justice of the Peace in Texas would be valid.  Now you're going to have two licenses and you're going to have to attach an explanation...we were married in Mexico and given a Texas license, USCIS refused that license, so we married again.   (And figure out which day is actually your "date of marriage".)

 

This might be a case where you contact an immigration attorney and ask for some free or cheap advice.  (The less it costs, the lower the quality.)  It's not sounding like a do-it-yourself application.

 

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Vicky's Mom

 

 

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1. Texas Marriage license does state "where/ city/ town" the marriage was performed.

2. No need to wait for RFE. Mexico isn't US. 

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I have never heard of a US County having an office overseas.

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2 hours ago, brandonC said:

I was genuinely trying to get help and everyone hasn't been very kind.

Brandon, we're simply trying to understand.  This is a situation that no one has heard of before, and we're trying to get enough accurate detail to offer meaningful advice.

On 5/8/2024 at 6:55 PM, brandonC said:

My wife and I recently married In Renosa Mexico but there is a legal minister there who married us and got us a marriage license from Brownsville Texas so what show I put where it says where we're you and your current spouse married? We were in Renosa Mexico but the license was done by the minister and then sent to me from Brownsville Texas 

1.  "there is a legal minister there [Reynosa] who married us" -- Please define "legal minister."  Where did he have authority to perform marriages -- Brownsville, or Reynosa?  If both, how did he convince the Cameron County (TX) clerk to issue a marriage license from Cameron County?  These facts are crucial to know.

 

2.  "the license was done by the minister and then sent to me from Brownsville" -- What specifically (in detail) did he do?  We need to know the precise process.  You very well may need to contact this minister to confirm his credentials in each locale (see 1. above) and to learn precisely WHAT he did -- and WHY.

 

Edited to ask:  To clarify, WAS it a U.S. (Cameron County) marriage certificate, or was it a Mexican marriage certificate from Reynosa that was mailed to you from Brownsville?

 

I'm tempted to say that this sounds like fraud of some sort at this point in our discussion here, but no one can know for sure unless clear facts, procedures, and details are stated for us to consider and comment constructively on.  Please help us to help you.

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06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

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06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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I did come across something similar, where the marriage license was used in a different State not Country and resulted in a RFE, I do not know how it ended.

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4 minutes ago, brandonC said:

I'm already getting a immigration lawyer so please no more comments I'm sorry for the drama and trouble 

I would expect the Lawyer will advice to get a simple valid marriage certificate. 

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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