Exercise Damages the Planet

[mawilson 2,133]

Don't buy a Prius then. Buy any smaller 4 cylinder car and you're going use less gas than driving a Hummer.

You'll also have less shielding to protect you in an accident...again, trade-offs.

Hey man - the Hummer kicks ### - just not because it's "environment-friendly."

It's not all about the size either - my "small car" (6.0L V8 400hp) uses more gas than the Hummer - Premium gas no less

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

How do you know it is not though? What actual long-term scientific evidence is there that a prius is much better for the environment.

Prius Average MPG: 46 (48 city, 45 hwy)

Hummer Average MPG: 15 (14 city, 18 hwy)

Prius Greenhouse Gas Emissions: 4.0 tons/year

Hummer Greenhouse Gas Emissions: 12.2 tons/year

What about the manufacturing process as well as the batteries which will need to be thrown out? It is not as simple as MPG as some actors and signers would want us to believe. Hence why they are actors and singers..

Don't buy a Prius then. Buy any smaller 4 cylinder car and you're going use less gas than driving a Hummer.

You'll also have less shielding to protect you in an accident...again, trade-offs.

That's why I am trying to get my hands on a tank. There's just no safer way to get my family around. Gotta be the biggest guy on the freaking road. After all, size does matter...

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

How do you know it is not though? What actual long-term scientific evidence is there that a prius is much better for the environment.

Prius Average MPG: 46 (48 city, 45 hwy)

Hummer Average MPG: 15 (14 city, 18 hwy)

Prius Greenhouse Gas Emissions: 4.0 tons/year

Hummer Greenhouse Gas Emissions: 12.2 tons/year

What about the manufacturing process as well as the batteries which will need to be thrown out? It is not as simple as MPG as some actors and signers would want us to believe. Hence why they are actors and singers..

Don't buy a Prius then. Buy any smaller 4 cylinder car and you're going use less gas than driving a Hummer.

You'll also have less shielding to protect you in an accident...again, trade-offs.

That's why I am trying to get my hands on a tank. There's just no safer way to get my family around. Gotta be the biggest guy on the freaking road. After all, size does matter...

UK army used to sell obsolete tanks for about 4000 pounds. Of course - driving the thing on public streets isn't exactly encouraged as the tracks shred the tarmac. And the gas mileage is truly horrendous. Easy to drive at least - just those two levers...

[MissStacey 1]

"— Trees, regarded as shields against global warming because they absorb carbon, were found by German scientists to be major producers of methane, a much more harmful greenhouse gas"

Sounds like the trees might kill us first.

[Jenn! 918]

"— Trees, regarded as shields against global warming because they absorb carbon, were found by German scientists to be major producers of methane, a much more harmful greenhouse gas"

Sounds like the trees might kill us first.

Yeah, either the trees or the cow farts.

[^KK^ 3]

This is weird...

[SteveLaura 0]

Fresh research published in New Scientist last month suggested that 1kg of meat cost the Earth 36kg in global warming gases. The figure was based on Japanese methods of industrial beef production but Mr Goodall says that farming techniques are similar throughout the West.

Modern dairy farming emits the equivalent of 1.2kg of CO2 to produce the milk, still more pollution than the car journey.

“It means we need urgently to work out how to reduce the greenhouse gas intensity of our foodstuffs.”

“This is not just about flying your beans from Kenya in the winter,” Mr Goodall said. “The whole system is stuffed with energy and nitrous oxide emissions. The UK is probably the worst country in the world for this.

“We have industrialised our food production. We use an enormous amount of processed food, like ready meals, compared to most countries. Three quarters of supermarkets’ energy is to refrigerate and freeze food prepared elsewhere.

A chilled ready meal is a perfect example of where the energy is wasted. You make the meal, then use an enormous amount of energy to chill it and keep it chilled through warehousing and storage.”

The ideal diet would consist of cereals and pulses. “This is a route which virtually nobody, apart from a vegan, is going to follow,” Mr Goodall said. But there are other ways to reduce the carbon footprint. “Don’t buy anything from the supermarket,” Mr Goodall said, “or anything that’s travelled too far.”

It seems to me he's advocating major changes in the way that food is produced, distributed and bought. Farmer's markets are a good start. Eat seasonal fruit and vegetables, like our grandparents did. Buy local. Grow your own. Don't use paper or plastic bags - buy some sturdy ones and take them to the shops with you. Small steps, sure, but changes like these are consumer led. Look how quickly supermarkets pounced on the organic trend. Farmer's markets are springing up everywhere. If major retailers see that there's money to be made in more local, seasonal produce, a change is gonna come.

[Ban Hammer 13,336]

"— Trees, regarded as shields against global warming because they absorb carbon, were found by German scientists to be major producers of methane, a much more harmful greenhouse gas"

Sounds like the trees might kill us first.

Yeah, either the trees or the cow farts.

which brings up that question.....if a cow farts in the woods and no one is around, did it make any noise?

[Jasman0717 9]

I want whatever this Goodall guy is smoking

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Fresh research published in New Scientist last month suggested that 1kg of meat cost the Earth 36kg in global warming gases. The figure was based on Japanese methods of industrial beef production but Mr Goodall says that farming techniques are similar throughout the West.

Modern dairy farming emits the equivalent of 1.2kg of CO2 to produce the milk, still more pollution than the car journey.

“It means we need urgently to work out how to reduce the greenhouse gas intensity of our foodstuffs.”

“This is not just about flying your beans from Kenya in the winter,” Mr Goodall said. “The whole system is stuffed with energy and nitrous oxide emissions. The UK is probably the worst country in the world for this.

“We have industrialised our food production. We use an enormous amount of processed food, like ready meals, compared to most countries. Three quarters of supermarkets’ energy is to refrigerate and freeze food prepared elsewhere.

A chilled ready meal is a perfect example of where the energy is wasted. You make the meal, then use an enormous amount of energy to chill it and keep it chilled through warehousing and storage.”

The ideal diet would consist of cereals and pulses. “This is a route which virtually nobody, apart from a vegan, is going to follow,” Mr Goodall said. But there are other ways to reduce the carbon footprint. “Don’t buy anything from the supermarket,” Mr Goodall said, “or anything that’s travelled too far.”

It seems to me he's advocating major changes in the way that food is produced, distributed and bought. Farmer's markets are a good start. Eat seasonal fruit and vegetables, like our grandparents did. Buy local. Grow your own. Don't use paper or plastic bags - buy some sturdy ones and take them to the shops with you. Small steps, sure, but changes like these are consumer led. Look how quickly supermarkets pounced on the organic trend. Farmer's markets are springing up everywhere. If major retailers see that there's money to be made in more local, seasonal produce, a change is gonna come.

Sensible solutions.