Jump to content

7 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Posted

My wife and I are preparing for our move to the U.S. with a CR1 visa, following her I-130 petition for me. We're currently living abroad but planning ahead to avoid delays, even though we haven't reached the NVC stage yet. My wife is still considered domiciled in the U.S., as our stay overseas is temporary, and her address in the U.S. is with her parents, where we plan to live upon our arrival until we have found our own place. This address was also listed on our I-130 form.

 

Last year, my wife was completing her graduate studies and did not earn enough to meet the income requirements for sponsorship. As a result, her parents have agreed to be our additional sponsors. Since they file their taxes jointly, we're exploring the best approach for them to become sponsors:

 

  • Form I-864A Use: Is it appropriate for my wife's parents to use Form I-864A, Contract Between Sponsor and Household Member, in our situation? If so, considering their joint tax filing, is it necessary for both parents to complete the form, or would only one parent suffice? Additionally, how would this choice affect the household size calculation for the I-864A form—would it be 3 if one parent fills it out, and 4 if both do?
  • Regular I-864 Form: Alternatively, could they opt for the regular I-864 form as joint sponsors instead? If choosing this route, how does it impact the household size calculation—would it then be considered 2 for the purposes of the I-864 form?
  • Comparison and Recommendation: Are there any advantages or disadvantages between choosing Form I-864A versus the regular I-864 form for our situation?

 

I appreciate any guidance or experiences shared, as we want to avoid any delays because of RFEs.

 

Thank you in advance for your help!

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
Posted (edited)

1.  Wife completes I-864 as Primary Sponsor with Household size of 2 (self and sponsored immigrant).

2.  One parent completes I-864 as Joint Sponsor with Household size of 3 (self, spouse, sponsored immigrant)

3.  Other parent (Spouse of Joint Sponsor) completes an I-864a as household member of Joint Sponsor to combine income with Joint Sponsor

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted

Thank you so much for your insights! I do have a concern, though, regarding potential contradictions between my wife's I-864 form and that of my in-laws. Specifically, my wife's I-864 would suggest that we're establishing a two-person household at her parents' address. Concurrently, her parents would be indicating a household size of 3, incorporating me as part of their joint household. Is this contradiction a problem?

 

For additional context, my wife is not considered a dependent of her parents for IRS purposes. The primary challenge in meeting the sponsorship income requirement stems purely from her recent graduate studies. Although she exceeded the necessary income threshold in the years before her graduate program (tax years 2021 & 2022), her 2023 tax return will reflect zero income due to her academic commitments. By the time we need to submit our Affidavit of Support around September this year, the most recent tax return required (2023) will unfortunately showcase this lack of income. Her current annual income for 2024 is again also just under the minimum requirement. Given these circumstances, we're leaning towards having her parents provide additional sponsorship to ensure we meet the income requirements.

 

The poverty thresholds for 2024 for a 3-person household is $25,820, so my in-laws showing an income of at least $32,275 would be sufficient in this case?

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Sander1234 said:

Specifically, my wife's I-864 would suggest that we're establishing a two-person household at her parents' address.

That's OK. 

3 hours ago, Sander1234 said:

Concurrently, her parents would be indicating a household size of 3, incorporating me as part of their joint household.

That is correct as far a the count.

3 hours ago, Sander1234 said:

For additional context, my wife is not considered a dependent of her parents for IRS purposes.

Thus, not required to be part of their household.

 

3 hours ago, Sander1234 said:

The poverty thresholds for 2024 for a 3-person household is $25,820, so my in-laws showing an income of at least $32,275 would be sufficient in this case?

I don't see an issue.

 

Joint Sponsorship is quite normal.  Good luck.  

 

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
Posted (edited)
39 minutes ago, Sander1234 said:

I do have a concern, though

Here is another similar thread from a couple years ago.  Note the replies from @aaron2020 and @pushbrk, who is, in my opinion, the source for all things I-864....and more.

 

 

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Other Country: China
Timeline
Posted

The joint sponsor is not establishing a household that includes you.  You are counted simply because you are the intending immigrant.  That you plan to begin your life in the USA at the joint sponsor's house, is irrelevant.  You will see nothing on the form or in the instructions that talks about establishing any household.  Don't read thing in that are not there.

Facts are cheap...knowing how to use them is precious...
Understanding the big picture is priceless. Anonymous

Google Who is Pushbrk?

A Warning to Green Card Holders About Voting

http://www.visajourney.com/forums/topic/606646-a-warning-to-green-card-holders-about-voting/

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

The joint sponsor is not establishing a household that includes you.  You are counted simply because you are the intending immigrant.  That you plan to begin your life in the USA at the joint sponsor's house, is irrelevant.  You will see nothing on the form or in the instructions that talks about establishing any household.  Don't read thing in that are not there.

Good point.  I could have made that clearer.  

Edited by Crazy Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

 
Didn't find the answer you were looking for? Ask our VJ Immigration Lawyers.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...