221g

[morocco4ever 63]

That is great news Jackie, we are always happy to hear success stories.

[babybunny 2]

we had a case at islambad the couple were able to present the proofs.

Shon I have been mia due to working (12 hour shitfs x 3 days in a row + the flu ).

I just don't have any ideas for you. I wish I did. I don't know all about your case, but is your senator and congressman involved? If so, have they shed any light on the situation?

I honestly wondering if what is going on in Casa is also going on at other consulates, but in a different manner.

For instance, one of the ladies who had their case returned has been on line researching and researching, just as I am sure most of us have done. She discovered something rather interesting that rang a bell when she read what McKeever told Leila...ie "I don't get paid to talk on the phone, tell your representatives we need help". (Or something to that effect.) I was told last year..."I don't have time to talk on the phone, send an e-mail".

She remembered reading on a congressal meeting of the House of Representatives, Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims, Committee on the Judiciary in Washington, DC.

Mc Keever was there. This meeting was on visa fraud. Here is an excerpt of what McKeever said:

Mr. MCKEEVER: Yes, sir, I certainly agree with the rest of the panel, that biometrics are the wave of the future, but I would also submit that resources are also an important part of this, human resources. After you get by the biometrics and the computer, somebody has to go out in the field and investigate, somebody has to be in the consulates and adjudicate visa applications. And I think we need to keep that in mind to make sure that we have enough people out there, both fraud coordinators and investigators

Bingo...he is saying there is a need for more help to investigate the suspicious applications at the consulates. I am thinking that since it hasn't happened, the conoffs in Casa are just simple returning the petitons that are not cut and dried. This is their way of dealing with their staff shortage.

Perhaps the conoffs in other consulates are treating this staff shortage in others ways?

In other words your case may not have gotten the attention due to short staffing? And the conoffs are dealing with this situation in various ways to try and get their point across to our representatives? What better way than to use us to get what they need?

How many of us have pushed our reps to provide the funding needed for the DOS and DHS to be able to do their jobs? I could go on and on speculating, but that is not what any of us want to hear. But things seem to be adding up as everyone keeps researching this subject of returns and delays.

As much as I dislike the situation, whos to say that this is not happening? All we can do is write to our reps and tell them what is going on and ask them to tell us WHY and ask them to get it fixed.

I am sure we have all heard that if a govermenatal agency does not spend it allotted funds given to them in the year, they will be cut the following year. This is wrong but hey, what can we do but try to get the message across to our reps.

I am sure many times when those who are in the immigration process get their beloved here they move on and all is forgotten until we need DHS to do something else for us.

Just my point of view, I am not wanting to be political, but it appears this is a very political situation we find ourselves in.

For you Shon, I hope you get this resolved quickly. I hope everyone gets their beloved here quickly!!!!

oh ok.. I see where you comming from. I guess our embassy is putting us all on AR for a long time.

the longest we had was 2 years. she finally got off AR. this is my second trip around.

hey how is the flu? are you better now?

[frndly1 1]

[ I am sure we have all heard that if a govermenatal agency does not spend it allotted funds given to them in the year, they will be cut the following year. This is wrong but hey, what can we do but try to get the message across to our reps.

Chiquita,

I for one work for DHS and we dont have money. We didnt even get appraisal awards last year because they barely had enough money to pay salaries. I have prepared budgets before for the Army and it is true, if an agency ask for money and dont spend it they will not be so lucky in the following year.

I can believe and see how they are understaffed. Heck if they pay me what I am making in the states I will go over there and help them with your all cases :-).

Edited April 16, 2006 by frndly1

[morocco4ever 63]

[ I am sure we have all heard that if a govermenatal agency does not spend it allotted funds given to them in the year, they will be cut the following year. This is wrong but hey, what can we do but try to get the message across to our reps.

Chiquita,

I for one work for DHS and we dont have money. We didnt even get appraisal awards last year because they barely had enough money to pay salaries. I have prepared budgets before for the Army and it is true, if an agency ask for money and dont spend it they will not be so lucky in the following year.

I can believe and see how they are understaffed. Heck if they pay me what I am making in the states I will go over there and help them with your all cases :-).

Aww friendly...that is so sweet!! I didn't realize that you work for DHS. I certainly hope we haven't said anything here to offend you in anyway, if so, it certainly wasn't personal. Actually my beef is with the consulate, not DHS. Although I am disheartened that they have had our case since 12/19 and haven't even looked at it, but I know they are understaffed, and it certainly isn't thier fault that my case was sent back. In fact, I think in some of these cases from Morocco the officer is going to be ticked off that they didn't handle it at the consulate level like they are suppose to. I also read that the DHS can actually be sued for what the consulate does wrong. Strange system if ya ask me...we should be able to go after the source.

[chiquita 0]

[ I am sure we have all heard that if a govermenatal agency does not spend it allotted funds given to them in the year, they will be cut the following year. This is wrong but hey, what can we do but try to get the message across to our reps.

Chiquita,

I for one work for DHS and we dont have money. We didnt even get appraisal awards last year because they barely had enough money to pay salaries. I have prepared budgets before for the Army and it is true, if an agency ask for money and dont spend it they will not be so lucky in the following year.

I can believe and see how they are understaffed. Heck if they pay me what I am making in the states I will go over there and help them with your all cases :-).

Oh how nice for you! Do you get any perks? Like a quicker approval? I know there are lots of perks to my job. (I work in a hospital so we all band together when needed.)

I have no qualms with DHS at all. Actually DHS has been very fair to us in that they approved our petitions and then gave me the opportunity to overcome the lies of the consulate when our petition was returned by Casa.

Which brings to mind that we do sue DHS for the actions of the DOS. Do you know why it is like that?

Oh my...I have so many questions...just wondering if you are allowed to share the answers??

Hugs

Chiquita

we had a case at islambad the couple were able to present the proofs.

Shon I have been mia due to working (12 hour shitfs x 3 days in a row + the flu ).

I just don't have any ideas for you. I wish I did. I don't know all about your case, but is your senator and congressman involved? If so, have they shed any light on the situation?

I honestly wondering if what is going on in Casa is also going on at other consulates, but in a different manner.

For instance, one of the ladies who had their case returned has been on line researching and researching, just as I am sure most of us have done. She discovered something rather interesting that rang a bell when she read what McKeever told Leila...ie "I don't get paid to talk on the phone, tell your representatives we need help". (Or something to that effect.) I was told last year..."I don't have time to talk on the phone, send an e-mail".

She remembered reading on a congressal meeting of the House of Representatives, Subcommittee on Immigration and Claims, Committee on the Judiciary in Washington, DC.

Mc Keever was there. This meeting was on visa fraud. Here is an excerpt of what McKeever said:

Mr. MCKEEVER: Yes, sir, I certainly agree with the rest of the panel, that biometrics are the wave of the future, but I would also submit that resources are also an important part of this, human resources. After you get by the biometrics and the computer, somebody has to go out in the field and investigate, somebody has to be in the consulates and adjudicate visa applications. And I think we need to keep that in mind to make sure that we have enough people out there, both fraud coordinators and investigators

Bingo...he is saying there is a need for more help to investigate the suspicious applications at the consulates. I am thinking that since it hasn't happened, the conoffs in Casa are just simple returning the petitons that are not cut and dried. This is their way of dealing with their staff shortage.

Perhaps the conoffs in other consulates are treating this staff shortage in others ways?

In other words your case may not have gotten the attention due to short staffing? And the conoffs are dealing with this situation in various ways to try and get their point across to our representatives? What better way than to use us to get what they need?

How many of us have pushed our reps to provide the funding needed for the DOS and DHS to be able to do their jobs? I could go on and on speculating, but that is not what any of us want to hear. But things seem to be adding up as everyone keeps researching this subject of returns and delays.

As much as I dislike the situation, whos to say that this is not happening? All we can do is write to our reps and tell them what is going on and ask them to tell us WHY and ask them to get it fixed.

I am sure we have all heard that if a govermenatal agency does not spend it allotted funds given to them in the year, they will be cut the following year. This is wrong but hey, what can we do but try to get the message across to our reps.

I am sure many times when those who are in the immigration process get their beloved here they move on and all is forgotten until we need DHS to do something else for us.

Just my point of view, I am not wanting to be political, but it appears this is a very political situation we find ourselves in.

For you Shon, I hope you get this resolved quickly. I hope everyone gets their beloved here quickly!!!!

oh ok.. I see where you comming from. I guess our embassy is putting us all on AR for a long time.

the longest we had was 2 years. she finally got off AR. this is my second trip around.

hey how is the flu? are you better now?

Much better, thanks and back to the fight!!

Here's the online instructions for preparing a package for submittal to immigration:

http://uscis.gov/graphics/fieldoffices/scn...nal/index.htm#H

From the above:

"If you believe your situation to be unique, explain it fully in an attachment to the packet, not as a cover letter."

Also, for anyone filing AOS after April first this year - there have been changes so go to the USCIS webwsite and get your information there. I'm not sure how often VJ updates their info.

Now that is at the DHS level. I prepared our case very thoroughly with attachments to explain eveything in detail. There is an age difference between us but I even brought that up to at the DHS level. Still CASA returns our case!!! Uggggghhhhhhhh.

I still say it has to do with lack of staffing and money and we are the pawns.

I got an e-mail from an internet friend that brought over her husband from Amman. His brother has a friend that went to the consulate for his interview about a month ago (in Amman). They are doubting the validity of the relationship and gave him the 221(g). Now here is the kicker....they are giving him an opportunity at the consulate to bring in more documentation to prove the validity! Now how is that for ya??? I don't know if they have a valid relationship, I don't even know the person, but I trust this friend completely that she is being honest with me. This consulate, although much larger and slower than Casablanca, is actually following the correct procedure.

This is what we are saying here, if you doubt our relationship, great, you are doing your job well. If you send it back without an opportunity to prove our case then you are violating your own procedures. Anyone can aruge it all they want, those of us in these shoes know the facts.

Well now we see that is the way it is to be done! CASA justs returns them and we have no idea as to why until our reps get involved.

How to fight this injustice is my question.

Hi Im Jackie... I just wanted to encourage you never to give up... My husband had his interview Feburary 6, 2006 an was put on administrative processing... They called him Friday to take his passport and told him his visa was ready at 3.00 that afternoon.... He will be picking up his visa on Monday... Its hard to wait, but you must always know you will be together, and be persistant...

I am so happy for you Jackie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sarah and hicham 3]

Some of you guys are V-I-C-I-O-U-S!!!

I hope I never get on anyone's "bad" side.

Peace out

Sarah

[LaL 418]

Some of you guys are V-I-C-I-O-U-S!!!

I hope I never get on anyone's "bad" side.

Peace out

Sarah

i dont know what in the past few responses prompted this reponse.

[sarah and hicham 3]

Let's just say I read through every single page of this post today. Ouch.

[chiquita 0]

Some of you guys are V-I-C-I-O-U-S!!!

I hope I never get on anyone's "bad" side.

Peace out

Sarah

i dont know what in the past few responses prompted this reponse.

Geeeeeeeee...I don't know. I am hoping ppl don't think I am vicious. I just want my husband here. CASA is playing games and I think it needs to be brought out and dealt with, that's all.

[vonnie&abdel 0]

I agree with Sarah you guys are V-I-C-I-O-U-S!!! and you dont know why Jennieh left. Have any of you ever thought about her or read the stuff you said to her? And you all think she is so horrible and bad your not all perfect.

[morocco4ever 63]

I agree with Sarah you guys are V-I-C-I-O-U-S!!! and you dont know why Jennieh left. Have any of you ever thought about her or read the stuff you said to her? And you all think she is so horrible and bad your not all perfect.

I don't think I said anything vicious to her did I?

[cbd2cai 0]

I agree with Sarah you guys are V-I-C-I-O-U-S!!! and you dont know why Jennieh left. Have any of you ever thought about her or read the stuff you said to her? And you all think she is so horrible and bad your not all perfect.

Good Grief, what is up with this?? Not ALL of us said anything like this . . . but more comments like this is what is making me

not want to hang around VJ.

Edited April 21, 2006 by cbarrosmostafa

[UmmSqueakster 54]

How did I miss the whole Jennieh drama? I got the whole dayum poo-flinging thing but that was a seperate incident.

[Bosco 1]

How did I miss the whole Jennieh drama? I got the whole dayum poo-flinging thing but that was a seperate incident.

Here is the thread http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...topic=5470&st=0

I guess I was the vicious attacker. I have no issue with anyone venting or complaining, but I was tired of hearing her do so while lashing out at K1'ers.

Rebecca

[UmmSqueakster 54]

How did I miss the whole Jennieh drama? I got the whole dayum poo-flinging thing but that was a seperate incident.

Here is the thread http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...topic=5470&st=0

I guess I was the vicious attacker. I have no issue with anyone venting or complaining, but I was tired of hearing her do so while lashing out at K1'ers.

Rebecca

Thanks for the link.