Applying for Firearms ID

[Crazy Cat 41,610]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

That is what I did sort of to get a Concealed Carry Permit

But I was not a Citizen.

Same for me when I lived in Arkansas......as a citizen.   Now, in Texas, the law, since 2021,  doesn't even require that to carry concealed.

[Bethie 101]

49 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I live in the free state of Texas.  No license needed.  Sorry, I can't relate to applying.  Good luck. 

yeap, we don't need no stikin license......   actually kind of scary

[Loren Y 2,755]

You can get a Concealed carry permit in most states by doing what you are saying. Take an 8 or 16 hour training course. Here in Nevada it is 4 hours classroom talking about the laws, then 4 hours of Range time where you have to " Qualify" on standard silhouette targets at like 5, 10, and I believe 20ft or so. You only have to fire around 40 rounds, and get a certain number of points to qualify. Honestly you can probably qualify even if you have never fired a gun before ( I personally believe you should get more practice obviously than what is required to just get the permit). I have taken many hours, including the 80 hour course at the police academy back in Ohio that was required to be an armed guard and run an armored car back then.

 Now. if you are looking to be able to sell and transfer guns, you will need a FFL license. ( federal firearms license). I have had one of these before for about 5 or 6 years, and it requires a lot more work and registration with the BATF and costs about 550 to 600 dollars a year to maintain. I never transferred, bought or sold enough guns to justify the cost, so I didn't renew a few years back. It used to be handy because you could buy direct from the manufacturers, and save some money that way, and there is no background check. But in the long run, most states (Nevada) after you have your CCW permit, you don't have to pay for backround checks either, and at 25 or 30 dollars each, it saves money getting your permit, and you can usually avoid any waiting period if you have your CCW. With CCW permit in hand, I can walk in and buy just about anything is 10 to 15 min. Takes that much time to fill out the form, and with a permit, you are on your way merchandise in hand.

 Another thing, if allowed in your state or jurisdiction you can legally own Class 3 weapons ( Suppressors/ Full-auto/ destructive devices, etc.) This requires a federal " Tax Stamp" that cost 200 dollars per device to get, and is about a 3-4 month wait currently with you needing to get the local law agency ( Sheriff ) to sign off, then file with the BATF, fingerprints and a wait until your background check clears, then you literally get a paper form with a stamp in the corner, and you can then pick up what you bought from your FFL dealer. Research this if you are ever going to get that much into class 3 stuff, as you will want to set up a Trust to keep the weapons registered to, and if you do want to get a suppressor in the long run ( They are cool in my opinion), spend a little more to get one that does multiple calibers, that way you only pay the tax stamp on the " Tube " of the suppressor, and you can buy the different inserts to put inside the tube to run different calibers, but only pay for 1- 200 dollar stamp. My Silencerco silencer (  https://silencerco.com/) can run anything from 9mm caliber up to .45, and just about any rifle caliber available.

 

 

Edited February 20 by Loren Y

[Loren Y 2,755]

1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

Same for me when I lived in Arkansas......as a citizen.   Now, in Texas, the law, since 2021,  doesn't even require that to carry concealed.

Yes, Arizona got rid of the permit requirement also about 5 years ago, I am hoping Nevada does the same soon.

[top_secret 2,377]

5 minutes ago, Loren Y said:

Here in Nevada

 

My wife was rather shocked when she suddenly noticed that open carry is legal Nevada, during breakfast at a diner in Beatty.🤣😂🤣

[Calicolom 265]

5 hours ago, Pats5415 said:

Anyone apply for firearms ID after becoming a naturalized citizen? Care to share the process?

Depends a lot on the State

[jskibo 588]

Constitutional carry in KY. No permit required 

[JeanneAdil 6,414]

Not just state by state but in some states like NYS ,its county to county 

 

In TN  we now do not need a concealed carry permit /that is a new rule

In Tx,  LPR can buy a gun

NY city  no, only authorized personal are allowed hand gun permits

TN you can even carry a gun into a business UNLESS the facility posts on the door "NO FIREARMS PERMITTED"

 

If you are a resident alien or a citizen you may buy a gun in the USA.  according to ATF

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/may-aliens-legally-united-states-purchase-firearms

 

An alien legally in the U.S. is not prohibited from purchasing firearms unless the alien is admitted into the U.S. under a nonimmigrant visa and does not meet one of the exceptions as provided in 18 U.S.C. 922(y)(2), such as possession of a valid hunting license or permit.

 

[PGA 226]

17 hours ago, Pats5415 said:

Anyone apply for firearms ID after becoming a naturalized citizen? Care to share the process?

I have a Mass firearms ID card from long ago. A lot has changed since then but there was/is 2: a firearms identification card for long guns, and a pistol permit for handguns. Now way, way back, it was fairly easy to get a firearms card (I believe I just went to the city hall and filled out the application). A handgun permit, which you apply for at local police station, is and always has been much more difficult to get and from what I hear as of late, it's getting even more difficult and a lot of police chiefs do not like/even refuse to issue them (and I'm guessing it's a lot more difficult even to get a firearms card for long guns).

I'm curious though, if you go through the process, I'd like for you to post back with your experience...

[Bob in Boston 675]

In Mass take the firearms safety first. Once done visit your local Police Department and fill out the application. You will be interviewed and we have 2 classes here. Life and Property and Hunting and target shooting. Pick one. You will do better in a small town rather than a big one. Too much crime in the big ones and they are very picky. I got mine through Law Enforcement so its easy for me and I cant comment on what the interview is like. Just need to qualify once a year And I fall under LEOSA which is a Federal law for Law Enforcement

[Verrou 1,960]

20 hours ago, Loren Y said:

You can get a Concealed carry permit in most states by doing what you are saying. Take an 8 or 16 hour training course. Here in Nevada it is 4 hours classroom talking about the laws, then 4 hours of Range time where you have to " Qualify" on standard silhouette targets at like 5, 10, and I believe 20ft or so. You only have to fire around 40 rounds, and get a certain number of points to qualify. Honestly you can probably qualify even if you have never fired a gun before ( I personally believe you should get more practice obviously than what is required to just get the permit). I have taken many hours, including the 80 hour course at the police academy back in Ohio that was required to be an armed guard and run an armored car back then.

 Now. if you are looking to be able to sell and transfer guns, you will need a FFL license. ( federal firearms license). I have had one of these before for about 5 or 6 years, and it requires a lot more work and registration with the BATF and costs about 550 to 600 dollars a year to maintain. I never transferred, bought or sold enough guns to justify the cost, so I didn't renew a few years back. It used to be handy because you could buy direct from the manufacturers, and save some money that way, and there is no background check. But in the long run, most states (Nevada) after you have your CCW permit, you don't have to pay for backround checks either, and at 25 or 30 dollars each, it saves money getting your permit, and you can usually avoid any waiting period if you have your CCW. With CCW permit in hand, I can walk in and buy just about anything is 10 to 15 min. Takes that much time to fill out the form, and with a permit, you are on your way merchandise in hand.

 Another thing, if allowed in your state or jurisdiction you can legally own Class 3 weapons ( Suppressors/ Full-auto/ destructive devices, etc.) This requires a federal " Tax Stamp" that cost 200 dollars per device to get, and is about a 3-4 month wait currently with you needing to get the local law agency ( Sheriff ) to sign off, then file with the BATF, fingerprints and a wait until your background check clears, then you literally get a paper form with a stamp in the corner, and you can then pick up what you bought from your FFL dealer. Research this if you are ever going to get that much into class 3 stuff, as you will want to set up a Trust to keep the weapons registered to, and if you do want to get a suppressor in the long run ( They are cool in my opinion), spend a little more to get one that does multiple calibers, that way you only pay the tax stamp on the " Tube " of the suppressor, and you can buy the different inserts to put inside the tube to run different calibers, but only pay for 1- 200 dollar stamp. My Silencerco silencer (  https://silencerco.com/) can run anything from 9mm caliber up to .45, and just about any rifle caliber available.

 

 

Side note : just tried silencer with 9mm few months ago and now I want one. Its very cool and less kick for me

 

Last time i Check 2022, In Maine we need permit to carry gun. Not that I want it anyway. I join club and only shoot inside the range, so no point for me to apply for permit

Edited February 20 by Verrou