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I am Canadian citizen and I am going to marry us citizen. I am planing to go usa for marriage by applying ESTA and then want to stay there until get green card by applying adjustments status instead of return back to canada. Is this legal to do this ? Or any other suggestions or ways to stay there with my spouse?(except TN visa )

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36 minutes ago, Dooom said:

Hello ,

I am Canadian citizen and I am going to marry us citizen. I am planing to go usa for marriage by applying ESTA and then want to stay there until get green card by applying adjustments status instead of return back to canada. Is this legal to do this ? Or any other suggestions or ways to stay there with my spouse?(except TN visa )

Nope, that is immigration fraud.

 

The USC needs to petition you for either a CR-1 or K-1.   I suggest you ask your partner to begin researching the process.   You both need to understand how it works.

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Canada - ESTA?  I am confused apart from the plan being fraud.

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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Just now, Dooom said:

How can I live with my spouse without leaving USA. Is there any way which will help me ?

In what you described, you cannot.  You can visit, your spouse can visit, but there is no living together visa while awaiting the spousal visa process.

Visa Received : 2014-04-04 (K1 - see timeline for details)

US Entry : 2014-09-12

POE: Detroit

Marriage : 2014-09-27

I-765 Approved: 2015-01-09

I-485 Interview: 2015-03-11

I-485 Approved: 2015-03-13

Green Card Received: 2015-03-24 Yeah!!!

I-751 ROC Submitted: 2016-12-20

I-751 NOA Received:  2016-12-29

I-751 Biometrics Appt.:  2017-01-26

I-751 Interview:  2018-04-10

I-751 Approved:  2018-05-04

N400 Filed:  2018-01-13

N400 Biometrics:  2018-02-22

N400 Interview:  2018-04-10

N400 Approved:  2018-04-10

Oath Ceremony:  2018-06-11 - DONE!!!!!!!

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28 minutes ago, Dooom said:

How can I live with my spouse without leaving USA. Is there any way which will help me ?

You can make visits during the process, but you cannot live in the US without a proper visa. One is option is to marry, meet, then start the spousal visa process. You are fortunate that you are close enough for short visits during the process of immigration....which is legal.   You might find it to be a better option than a K-1.

 

Every couple has their own priorities, and each couple must decide which visa is better for their situation.

K-1 
  More expensive than CR-1
  Requires Adjustment of Status after marriage (expensive and requires a lot of paperwork)
  Spouse can not leave the US until she/he receives approved Advance Parole (approx 6-8 months) 
  Spouse can not work until she/he receives EAD (approx 6-8 months) 
  Some people have had problems with driver licenses, Social Security cards, leases, bank account during this period 
  Spouse will not receive Green Card for many months after Adjustment of Status is filed.
  A K-1 might be a better choice when 18-21 year old children are immigrating also
  In some situations, marriage can affect certain Home country benefits, making a K-1 a better choice 
  A denied K-1 is sent back to USCIS to expire
  K-1 entrant cannot file for citizenship until after having Green Card for 3 years.
  Once an I-129F has been approved, delaying the case is difficult to impossible if the need arises.


CR-1/IR-1
  Less expensive than K-1 
  No Adjustment of Status(I-485, I-131, I-765) required. 
  Spouse can immediately travel outside the US 
  Spouse is authorized to work immediately upon arrival. 
  Spouse receives Social Security Card and Green Card within 2 or 3 weeks after entering the US 
  Opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc. are very easily accomplished with GC, SS card, and passport.
  Spouse has legal permanent Resident status IMMEDIATELY upon entry to US.
  The clock for citizenship filing starts immediately upon entry to the US.
  A CR-1/IR-1 case can be delayed indefinitely at NVC if the need arises. 
   


 

 

 

 

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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34 minutes ago, Dooom said:

How can I live with my spouse without leaving USA. Is there any way which will help me ?

The process is going to take about 18 months.  ESTA???

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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7 hours ago, Dooom said:

Hello ,

I am Canadian citizen and I am going to marry us citizen. I am planing to go usa for marriage by applying ESTA and then want to stay there until get green card by applying adjustments status instead of return back to canada. Is this legal to do this ? Or any other suggestions or ways to stay there with my spouse?(except TN visa )

Nope, not legal. Your spouse needs to start the spousal visa process. You can try to visit as long as you keep strong ties to Canada. I was able to continue to visit my husband while my spousal visa was pending, I did short visits of 2 weeks every 3-4 months.

 

“It’s been 84 years…” 

- Me talking about the progress of my I-751

 

 

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I think you can do it the other way, no expert on the Canadian side of things.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Topic has been moved to the IR1/CR1 spousal visa forum as that’s the only option for OP when it comes to being petitioned by a spouse. 

 

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Canadian citizens do not need an ESTA to enter the U.S. nor do U.S. citizens not need an eTA to enter Canada.

 

But as it was written by other members earlier, all of this is a moot topic since entering the U.S. on a tourist (non-immigrant) visit (ESTA or other tourism visa) with the intention to adjust status is immigration fraud.

 

There have been cases where tourists would enter the U.S. on an ESTA, fell in love, got married and then adjusted status, but that was because it was all in good faith and the tourist did not have immigrant intent (to adjust status) at the time he/she initially entered the U.S., which is clearly not your case.

 

As advised above, either go the K1 or CR1 path.

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2 minutes ago, Dooom said:

Should I go there as visitor and marry with her and apply adjustment status ?

That would be fraud.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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