Plane detained in France sheds light on Nicaragua’s role in US migrant crisis

[Boiler 45,445]

I thought this deserved its on thread, and it is from a very Progressive source but sort of explains a lot of the issues.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/01/france-detained-plane-nicaragua-us-migrants-crisis

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Plane detained in France sheds light on Nicaragua’s role in US migrant crisis

Flight contained 303 Indians en route to Central American country whose light visa requirements have attracted US-bound travelers

 

The detention in France of a charter plane bound for Nicaragua has renewed attention on the Central American nation’s role as a springboard for migrants from across the world seeking to make their way to the United States.

The flight, which left the United Arab Emirates on 21 December with 303 passengers of Indian nationality, was grounded during a refueling stop after an anonymous tip-off alleging human trafficking.

 

The passengers, however, were not being trafficked against their will, but rather attempting to migrate.

Nicaragua is the closest country connected by land to the United States that does not impose strict entry requirements upon citizens of many nations who are barred from flying to other destinations without a visa.

While some countries have imposed visa requirements upon certain nationalities under pressure from Washington, experts say that the Nicaraguan president, Daniel Ortega, has taken a contrarian approach in an attempt to weaponize migration and force negotiations over sanctions imposed on members of his inner circle.

 

 

Quite fascinating the sheer number of persons involved, this is big business and they charge.

[TBoneTX 45,259]

Yeah, Ortega is in the middle of a lot of this.  Will try to find links that I saw recently.

[Dashinka 24,480]

7 hours ago, Boiler said:

I thought this deserved its on thread, and it is from a very Progressive source but sort of explains a lot of the issues.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/01/france-detained-plane-nicaragua-us-migrants-crisis

 

Quite fascinating the sheer number of persons involved, this is big business and they charge.

Also fascinating is the price quoted for those on the plane.

[Boiler 45,445]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Also fascinating is the price quoted for those on the plane.

Seems a lot, OK there are limited operators to choose from and it is effectively a one was transit, they are not going to get much business flying back. Maybe freight?

 

Perhaps the numbers vary according to the extent of the package? Could include everything, US Lawyer fees etc.

 

[Dashinka 24,480]

47 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Seems a lot, OK there are limited operators to choose from and it is effectively a one was transit, they are not going to get much business flying back. Maybe freight?

 

Perhaps the numbers vary according to the extent of the package? Could include everything, US Lawyer fees etc.

 

I just assumed the $150k was for First Class, and the $48k was for Coach.  Sure the plane is dead-heading back, but to me, it seems if you can afford this price for a ticket, are you really in need of asylum in the US?  Seems it could be much more inexpensive to look else where if one is being politically persecuted.

 

[Boiler 45,445]

1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

I just assumed the $150k was for First Class, and the $48k was for Coach.  Sure the plane is dead-heading back, but to me, it seems if you can afford this price for a ticket, are you really in need of asylum in the US?  Seems it could be much more inexpensive to look else where if one is being politically persecuted.

 

 

I would imagine most go for a Tourist or Student visa first, that would seem the cheapest option and then just get a regular one way ticket.

 

Now some nationalities are good to fly into Mexico, Russians seem to go to Cancun and then fly north. Just for example and that has to be the simplest route, book a week vacation and then change your mind.

 

I am reminded of the Indian family the froze to death walking in from Canada, I think in that case they had sold up everything and borrowed from extended family for the trip, it was seen as an investment.

 

The numbers the Guardian quoted do seem high however. But then how much would be a fake marriage or E2 or EB5 etc and now is a good time.

 

I do not know if it is the case here but some operate on a deposit basis and you pay the balance once you get here and are working.

 

 

[TBoneTX 45,259]

9 hours ago, Boiler said:

some operate on a deposit basis and you pay the balance once you get here and are working

The cartels, whoever and wherever they may be, will get their cut.

[Boiler 45,445]

7 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

The cartels, whoever and wherever they may be, will get their cut.

 

There could well be Cartels involved,  this story mentions the CBPOne app and assistance is provided booking an appointment, claiming asylum,  presumably they may have a way of harvesting appointments like people do for B applications. And the new Biden policy includes EAD in a month.