Having my foreign wife's parents visit.

[millefleur 5,046]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

They specifically say not buy tickets etc 

Yeah, and there's no need to bring itineraries or other travel plan documents either or anything like that. It differs greatly from Schengen visas where these are often required with the application. 

 

@SnowColdIce another thing to keep in mind is they usually don't even look at any supporting documents at all. It's still a good idea to bring such papers (anything showing strong ties to Russia) in the rare case that it is asked for, but don't count on it. 

[SnowColdIce 7]

Just now, millefleur said:

Yeah, and there's no need to bring itineraries or other travel plan documents either or anything like that. It differs greatly from Schengen visas where these are often required with the application. 

 

@SnowColdIce another thing to keep in mind is they usually don't even look at any supporting documents at all. It's still a good idea to bring such papers (anything showing strong ties to Russia) in the rare case that it is asked for, but don't count on it. 

Interesting....If they usually don't look at any supporting document, then how do they determine eligibility well? For example, my in-laws have jobs and own property. How would they know for example that they have 2 small properties to take care of that tie them to Russia if they don't look at the documentation?

[millefleur 5,046]

1 minute ago, SnowColdIce said:

Interesting....If they usually don't look at any supporting document, then how do they determine eligibility well? For example, my in-laws have jobs and own property. How would they know for example that they have 2 small properties to take care of that tie them to Russia if they don't look at the documentation?

It seems they just go by the DS-160 answers because you're required to tell the truth there, regarding jobs/employment. In terms of owning property, it's fairly common in Russia for people (especially older people) to own their own property so I suspect they might just assume most applicants own? I also find it a bit strange but it seems to be the trend is "they don't usually ask" when it comes to supporting docs. 

 

FWIW it seems most elderly Russians get approved for tourist visas, it's much harder for young people especially younger women to get approved.

 

[Boiler 45,466]

They interview people not documents, the information needed is asked on the DS 160 which I am pretty sure includes employment.

[SnowColdIce 7]

7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

They interview people not documents, the information needed is asked on the DS 160 which I am pretty sure includes employment.

Yes but also they must show ties to their home country, and a property is a common example of a strong tie. It is fairly common on B2 to show some documentation regarding this. However, it seems for this specific example (Russians) as @millefleur mentioned they do not ask a lot of documentation. A Cuban for example (with much higher rate of denials) do see quite a lot of documentation requirements. I am Cuban so I would know.

[MaxP22 186]

39 minutes ago, SnowColdIce said:

Interesting....If they usually don't look at any supporting document, then how do they determine eligibility well? For example, my in-laws have jobs and own property. How would they know for example that they have 2 small properties to take care of that tie them to Russia if they don't look at the documentation?

You are making this more complicated than it needs to be, it's a very simple process.

 

Get them to apply ASAP, there is no benefit to waiting. They fill out the DS160. They go to the interview and answer any questions. Done.

[MaxP22 186]

1 minute ago, SnowColdIce said:

 It is fairly common on B2 to show some documentation regarding this. 

No it is not. There are no documents that can 'prove' someone will not overstay so why would they even look at them? Certainly I was not asked for any documents at my B2 interview.

[Boiler 45,466]

9 minutes ago, SnowColdIce said:

Yes but also they must show ties to their home country, and a property is a common example of a strong tie. It is fairly common on B2 to show some documentation regarding this. However, it seems for this specific example (Russians) as @millefleur mentioned they do not ask a lot of documentation. A Cuban for example (with much higher rate of denials) do see quite a lot of documentation requirements. I am Cuban so I would know.

 

ROFL, I just commented on a post by someone from the UK who intends to rent out his property when he moves.

 

Anyway for arguments sake how they are supposed to check the validity of any documents you take in the couple of minutes a B interview takes?

[SnowColdIce 7]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

 

ROFL, I just commented on a post by someone from the UK who intends to rent out his property when he moves.

 

Anyway for arguments sake how they are supposed to check the validity of any documents you take in the couple of minutes a B interview takes?

I don't disagree with you. I understand what you are saying and it makes sense. I would just think that they would ask for something as they do for Cubans (a lot actually). But that probably has to do with the higher amount of people intending to actually stay in the country.

[Boiler 45,466]

I am speaking generally, I am not sure I have seen Cuban cases, I would assume with the CCA it is very difficult to get an approval.

[millefleur 5,046]

15 minutes ago, MaxP22 said:

Get them to apply ASAP, there is no benefit to waiting. They fill out the DS160. They go to the interview and answer any questions. Done.

I disagree to the "no benefit in waiting" because Russians only get a 3 year visa max, and it's currently a huge pain for Russians to get tourist visas as it requires a trip to another country to do so. I think applying closer to their actual date of travel thus makes more sense here. 

 

@SnowColdIce the only time I know of Russians being asked for documents is when they get a very cheery, chatty CO and they usually have a super specific reason for travel (i.e. got invited to some event in the US that is very specific - like they're going to perform or be a guest speaker etc), in that case I know people who were asked to show documents. I've never heard of anyone being asked to show their property ownership documents, hence why I mentioned it's uncommon.

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