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12 hours ago, Rearviewmirror said:

 

Almost everybody else in this thread is filing under the 3 or 5 year rule, and given that you haven't filled out your timeline I assumed you were in the same boat. You said your GC anniversary was August, which would have meant your interview was before it had been 3/5 years since receiving your original greencard. This doesn't apply to you given you've already been a greencard holder for more than 5 years.

What’s a 3 or 5 year rule? And what timeline. Sorry I’m super oblivious to this whole thing

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12 hours ago, Rearviewmirror said:

 

Almost everybody else in this thread is filing under the 3 or 5 year rule, and given that you haven't filled out your timeline I assumed you were in the same boat. You said your GC anniversary was August, which would have meant your interview was before it had been 3/5 years since receiving your original greencard. This doesn't apply to you given you've already been a greencard holder for more than 5 years.

Was I not supposed to apply for US citizenship since I passed the 3 year mark? Since I already applied, is it going to be denied? I’m using the same lawyer that I did when I applied for a green card. My lawyer hasn’t said anything. I’m emailing him right now. I’m now getting worried. I had no intention to apply for US citizenship as I was completely happy with my green card and my own country passport is way stronger than the US passport and I don’t travel lol. Only reason I applied for US citizenship was due to losing my green card. Green card replacement application was taking too long, 2 plus years. The I kept hearing people saying the US citizenship applications taking only 4-6 months, so I applied. Now I got a notification saying my green card is produced. If my n400 gets denied I feel so sad for wasting money. Please people enlighten me. Super worried

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2 minutes ago, PVR Bound said:

https://hackinglawpractice.com/difference-between-3-year-and-5-year-citizenship/
 

outlines pretty nicely here what the difference is 

Oh okay thanks. My attorney just emailed me back and said “stay away from forums” lol

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N-400 3 year marriage based (IOE)

Jan 22, 2024 - Submitted online 

Jan 22, 2024 - Biometrics waived

Mar 6, 2024 - Interview scheduled for Apr 11 COMBO I-751/N-400

Apr 11, 2024 - Combo interview - approved N-400

May 1, 2024 - Approved ROC, received 10 GC on May 20.

May 7, 2024 - Oath scheduled for June 14 (requested later ceremony at interview)

June 14, 2024 - Special Flag Day Oath ceremony - I'm a citizen!!!

 

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11 hours ago, leilabird said:

Oh okay thanks. My attorney just emailed me back and said “stay away from forums” lol

 

Broadly there are three "types" of folks going through the immigration process - 1) folks who learn the process inside out, do most/all of their filing themselves, 2) folks who don't know much about the process and trust their lawyer to do everything for them, 3) folks who don't inform themselves and try to go it alone.

 

2) works absolutely fine if you have a good lawyer, and can afford it, 1) is the route most folks on this forum take. Given how zero-sum the US immigration is - success vs banished forever (deliberate hyperbole there...) - I would far rather know all the ins and outs of the process.

 

If you have a good lawyer, they'll keep you on rails and will guide you through the process and you'll be fine. But I've also read stories of folks with bad lawyers on here.

 

My post was motivated by the fact that a LOT of people on this forum are in bucket 3) who do things like file for a replacement green card instead of applying to remove conditions, or apply for citizenship before they are eligible.

 

I'm still not entirely sure how long you've held your green card (see the 3 vs 5 year article posted above), but if you're married to a USC and have held a GC for 3 years minus 90 days, or you're not married and have held it for 5 years minus 90 days (including no long absences from the US during that time) then you're eligible to file for citizenship.


You can fill out your VJ timeline here - it lets other users see filing statistics, and get a better idea of when their case might be approved. More importantly it gives context to other folks when they are answering your questions/replying to your post.

A magical mystery tour of many US visas prior to AOS... (J-1, F-1, H-1B)

I-485/AOS:

Spoiler

EAD/AP - NOA received May 18, 2020

AOS - NOA received May 18, 2020

Biometrics (Code 2) - August 5, 2020

Biometrics take 2 (Code 3) - August 27, 2020

Ready to be Scheduled for Interview - September 8, 2020

EAD/AP Approval Notice - October  1, 2020

EAD Card Received - October 13, 2020

Interview Scheduled Notification - March 1, 2021

Interview Scheduled - April 6, 2021

GC Approved - May 7, 2021

GC Mailed - May 11, 2021

GC Delivered - May 11, 2021

 

N400 Citizenship:

File Date - January 8, 2024

Biometrics Waiver - January 8, 2024

Interview Scheduled - March 7, 2024

Interview Date - April 12, 2024

Conditionally Approved Pending I-751 Transfer - April 12, 2024

I-751 Case Was Transferred to Another Office - April 12, 2024

Case Approved - May 5, 2024

Oath Ceremony to be Scheduled - May 5, 2024

Oath Scheduled - May 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony - June 18, 2024

Oath Ceremony Cancelled - June 12, 2024

Oath Ceremony Rescheduled Date - July 30, 2024

DONE

 

Removal of Conditions:

File Date - January 7, 2023

Package Delivered - January 9, 2023

NOA Date - January 10, 2023

NOA Received - January 17, 2023 (dated "received" January 9, 2023)

48 Month Extension Received - March 20, 2023

Case Approved - May 3, 2024
 

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1 hour ago, Rearviewmirror said:

Broadly there are three "types" of folks going through the immigration process

I guess I am a hybrid.  I started out as a #2...then the attorney failed to send some documents, causing us a 3 month delay......so I then fired him, and I decided to become a #1...No hiccups after that..LOL.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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2 hours ago, Rearviewmirror said:

 

Broadly there are three "types" of folks going through the immigration process - 1) folks who learn the process inside out, do most/all of their filing themselves, 2) folks who don't know much about the process and trust their lawyer to do everything for them, 3) folks who don't inform themselves and try to go it alone.

 

2) works absolutely fine if you have a good lawyer, and can afford it, 1) is the route most folks on this forum take. Given how zero-sum the US immigration is - success vs banished forever (deliberate hyperbole there...) - I would far rather know all the ins and outs of the process.

 

If you have a good lawyer, they'll keep you on rails and will guide you through the process and you'll be fine. But I've also read stories of folks with bad lawyers on here.

 

My post was motivated by the fact that a LOT of people on this forum are in bucket 3) who do things like file for a replacement green card instead of applying to remove conditions, or apply for citizenship before they are eligible.

 

I'm still not entirely sure how long you've held your green card (see the 3 vs 5 year article posted above), but if you're married to a USC and have held a GC for 3 years minus 90 days, or you're not married and have held it for 5 years minus 90 days (including no long absences from the US during that time) then you're eligible to file for citizenship.


You can fill out your VJ timeline here - it lets other users see filing statistics, and get a better idea of when their case might be approved. More importantly it gives context to other folks when they are answering your questions/replying to your post.

I think that person had their green card 9 years, not sure why they’re stressing 

  • Arrived to USA on F-1 Student Visa on 08/16/2016
  • Submitted I-485 & I-130 on 09/25/2017
  • Approved Green Card (IR7 category) on 05/17/2019
  • Electronically submitted N-400 (w/ name change) on 02/19/2024
  • Biometrics Reuse received on 02/19/2024
  • Interview Notice received on 04/21/2024 
  • Interview at Chicago FO on 06/10/2024 
  • Oath Ceremony on 07/15/2024
  • Applied for Expedited US Passport at USPS on 07/15/2024
  • PASSPORT RECEIVED on 07/26/2024 🇺🇸
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47 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I guess I am a hybrid.  I started out as a #2...then the attorney failed to send some documents, causing us a 3 month delay......so I then fired him, and I decided to become a #1...No hiccups after that..LOL.

Some attorneys are absolutely terrible. A friend of mine is an immigration attorney, and I’ve asked for advice a couple of times before and gotten such terrible responses that I stopped asking altogether. 
 

Hope you got money back from that lawyer that messed up your case! 

  • Arrived to USA on F-1 Student Visa on 08/16/2016
  • Submitted I-485 & I-130 on 09/25/2017
  • Approved Green Card (IR7 category) on 05/17/2019
  • Electronically submitted N-400 (w/ name change) on 02/19/2024
  • Biometrics Reuse received on 02/19/2024
  • Interview Notice received on 04/21/2024 
  • Interview at Chicago FO on 06/10/2024 
  • Oath Ceremony on 07/15/2024
  • Applied for Expedited US Passport at USPS on 07/15/2024
  • PASSPORT RECEIVED on 07/26/2024 🇺🇸
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1 minute ago, minivatreni said:

Hope you got money back from that lawyer that messed up your case! 

I didn't bother.  He never admitted to the error.  He messed up the case at the NVC level and caused an RFE.  By that time, I had already been on Visa Journey long enough to educate myself enough to handle the consulate phase.  Wife and I did the I-751 and N-400 parts ourselves with no more RFEs at all. 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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14 hours ago, PVR Bound said:

Your attorney is correct!
 

But sometimes the folks on the forums know more about this than the attorneys. You just have to figure out who to trust and who swipe past. 

I think here, on VJ, the inaccurate information almost always QUICKLY gets corrected by knowledgeable members. 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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27 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

I think here, on VJ, the inaccurate information almost always QUICKLY gets corrected by knowledgeable members. 

I had an issue where my resident since date on my GC was incorrect, and I never filed an I-90 to have it corrected. I wanted to know if this would cause issues or a potential denial of my N400 because I never filed to have my GC corrected. The immigration attorney told me "it's too late to file an I90 so just call the USCIS and put in a service request to get the date changed" I was so confused??? Anyway I was informed here that I90 is the only route to making changes on a GC if I wanted to file that. 

  • Arrived to USA on F-1 Student Visa on 08/16/2016
  • Submitted I-485 & I-130 on 09/25/2017
  • Approved Green Card (IR7 category) on 05/17/2019
  • Electronically submitted N-400 (w/ name change) on 02/19/2024
  • Biometrics Reuse received on 02/19/2024
  • Interview Notice received on 04/21/2024 
  • Interview at Chicago FO on 06/10/2024 
  • Oath Ceremony on 07/15/2024
  • Applied for Expedited US Passport at USPS on 07/15/2024
  • PASSPORT RECEIVED on 07/26/2024 🇺🇸
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18 hours ago, leilabird said:

Was I not supposed to apply for US citizenship since I passed the 3 year mark? Since I already applied, is it going to be denied? I’m using the same lawyer that I did when I applied for a green card. My lawyer hasn’t said anything. I’m emailing him right now. I’m now getting worried. I had no intention to apply for US citizenship as I was completely happy with my green card and my own country passport is way stronger than the US passport and I don’t travel lol. Only reason I applied for US citizenship was due to losing my green card. Green card replacement application was taking too long, 2 plus years. The I kept hearing people saying the US citizenship applications taking only 4-6 months, so I applied. Now I got a notification saying my green card is produced. If my n400 gets denied I feel so sad for wasting money. Please people enlighten me. Super worried

 

THERE'S NOTHING FOR YOU TO WORRY ABOUT!! You are eligible to apply for citizenship  if you've been a permanent resident for at least 5 years (3 if married to a US citizen). That's the minimum, but you can apply at any time after that. I just applied in February and I've had a green card for 12 years.

Most people here apply as early as they are able to, but there's no downside to applying later. I personally didn't feel the need to apply, I also just did it because my 10-year green card is expiring.

CR1 Visa

USCIS STAGE: 16 days No expedite request but USC residing abroad
NVC STAGE: 19 days from case # to case complete
03/27/12: interview at Paris embassy - APPROVED
04/12/12: POE San Diego

ROC
01/15/14: sent I-751 application

05/14/14: received card production notification by e-mail, approval date 05/13

Naturalization

02/01/24: N-400 submitted online; Biometrics reuse notice received immediately online; "case being actively reviewed" after a couple hours

02/09/24: received NOA1 by mail

02/10/24: received biometrics reuse notice by mail

04/08/24: interview scheduled for 05/14. Received "We have taken an action in your case" email.

05/14/24: approved at interview, same-day oath ceremony in San Francisco 🥳 🇺🇸

 

Passport

06/10/24: application submitted at post office for passport book and card, paid for expedited processing and shipping

06/24/24: received email notification that passport was approved, then shipped with tracking number

06/25/24: passport received

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19 hours ago, leilabird said:

Was I not supposed to apply for US citizenship since I passed the 3 year mark? Since I already applied, is it going to be denied? I’m using the same lawyer that I did when I applied for a green card. My lawyer hasn’t said anything. I’m emailing him right now. I’m now getting worried. I had no intention to apply for US citizenship as I was completely happy with my green card and my own country passport is way stronger than the US passport and I don’t travel lol. Only reason I applied for US citizenship was due to losing my green card. Green card replacement application was taking too long, 2 plus years. The I kept hearing people saying the US citizenship applications taking only 4-6 months, so I applied. Now I got a notification saying my green card is produced. If my n400 gets denied I feel so sad for wasting money. Please people enlighten me. Super worried

There's nothing wrong with applying.

 

There's aldo nothing wrong with withdrawing N-400 if you no longer want to become a US citizen. You can do it today.

 

Before making a decision, does your country of other citizenship allow dual citizenship? Many countries nowadays are OK with their citizens having multiple citizenships. In many cases you will continue having your citizenship and passport from other country if you become a US citizen. And one outside of the US, you can still use that country's passport to travel if you wish.

 

What country are you from? 

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@jackiegringa I found a couple other timelines from the STL area with N400 filing around the same time we filed:

 

Applied in October 2023 and already done with interview/oath! - https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/profile.php?id=118078; @sweetbrat they don't seem active on any forums/topics

Applied in January 2024 and waiting for interview - https://www.visajourney.com/timeline/profile.php?id=240174; @Carpe Vinum they seem active on some forums/topics but just not here. Maybe they will see my comment and keep us posted with their interview invite! :)

 

 

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