Waiting for a NOA2 from CSC for your I-129F?

[TBoneTX 45,304]

As for members who *do* login but don't update their timeline, I don't have a solution for that. There are some people who just aren't going to play ball, and I guess that's their choice. Fortunately I think it's a pretty small group of people that choose that route, so it's not too bad. But I suspect that timeline abandoners skew the timelines noticeably.

Here's a different wrinkle: There seems to be no vehicle for reporting valid timelines when relationships have been abandoned. Read this from the fiancee:

>HELLO:

>

>Tonight I will be traveling to Cuenca, what about if we talk on tuesday night..... We need to talk about our relashionship.......ok.

>

>Take care

>Cristina

It is not known what this "talk" will entail, but I suspect that she will be dumping me in favor of her new business or for other reasons. I don't plan to push her too hard unless there's an opening for things to get better, but the question for me is, if she says "I need more time" (to decide, to build her business, whatever), to decide for myself whether things can be salvaged and/or how long I intend to continue to let my feelings be disrespected and disregarded. (She did NOT react to the news of our papers heading to the consulate as a loving other-half would/should.)

The above is a circular way of asking this: Because there is precious little information on Ecuador timelines, and because the papers have made much (most?) of their route through the immigration system, is there a mechanism via which "partial" processing information/timelines from abandoned relationships can remain on VJ for the help of others, and to build on existing information that may be sparse? Or is this a Cap'n Ewok question?

Any and all responses to the direct question and to the situation will be appreciated.

Edited January 28, 2008 by TBoneTX

[StillThePrettiest 3]

It's StP's fault, really. I blame her.

I blame StP.

           Names                       NOA1
       1   Maria & John                      18/06/2007
       2   U & lab                           18/06/2007
       3   graham & stacy                    20/06/2007
       4   Lorena & Michael                  21/06/2007
       5   Ekaterina & David                 21/06/2007
       6   Behnaz & Robin                    21/06/2007
       7   Yana & Don                        22/06/2007
       8   zrw & dmy                         24/06/2007
       9   Yana & Josh                       25/06/2007
      10   Aaron & Falyn                     26/06/2007
      11   paul & alanna                     26/06/2007
      12   Salliee & Cameron                 27/06/2007
      13   Hesham & Karima                    1/07/2007
      14   Lisa & Ty                          2/07/2007
      15   emily & torre                      5/07/2007
      16   jorge & Elena                     11/07/2007
      17   Natalia & Billy                   12/07/2007
      18   Phillip & Audrey                  13/07/2007
      19   Jeremy & Debbie                   13/07/2007
      20   Imran & erin                      16/07/2007
      21   Kris & Ray                        17/07/2007
      22   Curtis & Caitlyn                  17/07/2007
      23   C & J                             17/07/2007
      24   Janaina & Isaias                  19/07/2007
      25   Z & J                             20/07/2007
      26   khwan & kit                       20/07/2007
      27   Shady & Tracy                     23/07/2007
      28   Lise & Tom                        26/07/2007
      29   FRANCISCO & VILMA                 26/07/2007
      30   Cora & Richard                    26/07/2007
      31   Jyueru & Curt                     27/07/2007
      32   Elena & Rusty                     27/07/2007
      33   Inna & Timothy                    30/07/2007
      34   Tarik & Siobhan                   31/07/2007
      35   Susie & Martin                    31/07/2007
      36   Yumi & Alex                        1/08/2007
      37   Katae & John                       2/08/2007
      38   Barry & Susan                      2/08/2007
      39   MariaJose & Rick                   3/08/2007
      40   Sapi & Napi                        6/08/2007
      41   Elina & Igor                       7/08/2007
      42   L & J                              7/08/2007
      43   Eun Ok & Wei                       8/08/2007
      44   JEAN MARIE & BOB                  10/08/2007
      45   Fei & Marc                        10/08/2007
      46   Jean & Bob                        10/08/2007
      47   Sonia S Bacante & John A Fri      13/08/2007
      48   yingying & dale                   13/08/2007
      49   Chutima & Merrill                 14/08/2007
      50   Arnel & Claudette                 14/08/2007
      51   anousone & phonesack              15/08/2007
      52   Lena & Tony                       15/08/2007
      53   Svetlana & James                  16/08/2007
      54   L & J                             16/08/2007
      55   Claudia & Moreta                  17/08/2007
      56   Ania & Alex                       18/08/2007
      57   Lynn & Tony                       20/08/2007
      58   Parboti & Shiv                    21/08/2007
      59   Kristel & Ryan                    22/08/2007
      60   Lek & Jeff                        23/08/2007
      61   Masumi & Adam                     23/08/2007
      62   Joe & Meg                         24/08/2007
      63   ella & steven                     24/08/2007
      64   Jorge & Jennifer                  27/08/2007
      65   Brigmer & Kate                    27/08/2007
      66   Eppie & Michael                   28/08/2007
      67   Brian & Marianne                  29/08/2007
      68   Euna & Steve                      29/08/2007
      69   Ciela & regholdsworth             31/08/2007
      70   Nymous & Ano                      31/08/2007
      71   running deer & ashlan             31/08/2007
      72   David & Diana                      4/09/2007
      73   Asachan & Phillip                  4/09/2007
      74   Natalya & Nathan                   4/09/2007
      75   ni & nj                            6/09/2007
      76   Rustem & Katerina                  7/09/2007
      77   Phil & Jen                         7/09/2007
      78   roxy & lito                       10/09/2007
      79   W & D                             10/09/2007
      80   Yassine & Martha                  11/09/2007
      81   Chantrea & Jesse                  12/09/2007
      82   Daly & Matt                       13/09/2007
      83   Dijani & Norman                   19/09/2007
      84   Kami & Mari                       19/09/2007
      85   Stefan & Georgiana                20/09/2007
      86   tonya & darrin                    20/09/2007
      87   Natasha & Peter                   22/09/2007
      88   Sercan & Cristen                  24/09/2007
      89   Eike & Jack                       24/09/2007
      90   rose & charles                    25/09/2007
      91   Juliana & Brian                   26/09/2007
      92   Sugar zhu & Honey bear            26/09/2007
      93   Taka & Joe                        26/09/2007
      94   Handan & Kenny                    26/09/2007
      95   Mark & Jo                         26/09/2007
      96   MESKI & AJ                        26/09/2007
      97   Michael & Jennifer                26/09/2007
      98   kat & cebu15                      27/09/2007
      99   Tracy & Jesse                     27/09/2007
     100   Wilaiwan & James                  27/09/2007
     101   g & m                             28/09/2007
     102   Angela & Jeff                     29/09/2007
     103   H & M                              1/10/2007
     104   Carlos & Svetlana                  1/10/2007
     105   S & V                              1/10/2007
     106   M & V                              2/10/2007
     107   Sachiko & Adam                     2/10/2007
     108   Alicia & Tim                       2/10/2007
     109   D & J                              2/10/2007
     110   Maylin & Terry                     2/10/2007
     111   ilvas & AAhmad                     2/10/2007
     112   Kim Anh & Victor                   2/10/2007
     113   Fayanne & Elery                    3/10/2007
     114   Anna & John                        3/10/2007
     115   Ronan & Mercedes                   4/10/2007
     116   Lucky 5 & Lucky 7                  4/10/2007
     117   Angelito & Doyet                   5/10/2007
     118   Perviz & Sara                      5/10/2007
     119   Adelfa & Philip                    5/10/2007
     120   todd & maria                       8/10/2007
     121   Lyuba & Brent                      9/10/2007
     122   Jo & Dave                         10/10/2007
     123   Tom & Mia                         10/10/2007
     124   Natasha & Bob                     10/10/2007
     125   Natasha & James                   11/10/2007
     126   Retchel & samuel                  11/10/2007
     127   Chantal & Billy                   11/10/2007
     128   Xixi & David                      11/10/2007
     129   s & m                             11/10/2007
     130   Tatiana & David                   11/10/2007
     131   yoshie & kevin                    12/10/2007
     132   Natalie & Gerwin                  12/10/2007
     133   Oey & Roger                       12/10/2007
     134   Klaire Kiss & Martin              12/10/2007
     135   Yoko & Scott                      12/10/2007
     136   Sirinut & Mike                    15/10/2007
     137   Raphael & Maya                    15/10/2007
     138   Laurence & Patrick                15/10/2007
     139   G & J                             16/10/2007
     140   Emily & Sean                      17/10/2007
     141   Hazem & Nawal                     17/10/2007
     142   karya & kim                       18/10/2007
     143   Marj & Josh                       18/10/2007
     144   Joanna & Brandon                  18/10/2007
     145   Jia Ying & Don                    19/10/2007
     146   Hiromi & Helen                    19/10/2007
     147   OL & VK                           19/10/2007
     148   Alastair & Jasmine                19/10/2007
     149   Jana & Gil                        19/10/2007
     150   ShaSha & Chris                    19/10/2007
     151   Ulyana & John                     19/10/2007
     152   Shanthi & Krish                   22/10/2007
     153   Andres & Diana                    22/10/2007
     154   Nhu Anh & Thai                    23/10/2007
     155   Robby & Jillymae                  23/10/2007
     156   Craig & Tricia                    23/10/2007
     157   J & M                             24/10/2007
     158   Olga & Chris                      24/10/2007
     159   Gregory & Jacquelyn               25/10/2007
     160   Tracy & Steve                     25/10/2007
     161   Ping & Jay                        25/10/2007
     162   Amy & Andrew                      26/10/2007
     163   Roulio & Maria                    26/10/2007
     164   melina & bryan                    26/10/2007
     165   Ruki & Jamie                      26/10/2007
     166   Zhang & Ricky                     26/10/2007
     167   Chloe & Gabriel                   27/10/2007
     168   Bualai & Steve                    27/10/2007
     169   S & M                             29/10/2007
     170   Marian & Rebecca                  29/10/2007
     171   Nik & Kate                        30/10/2007
     172   Joany & Rachel                    30/10/2007
     173   j & J                             30/10/2007
     174   Karin & Brian                     31/10/2007
     175   linda & chad                      31/10/2007
     176   Sheridan & Annabelle              31/10/2007
     177   Watcharee & Thomas                31/10/2007
     178   Matias & Maureen                   1/11/2007
     179   Lizel & Larry                      1/11/2007
     180   Faustine & Jason                   1/11/2007
     181   Diana & Nathan                     2/11/2007
     182   Barry & Debbie                     2/11/2007
     183   Naveen & Melody                    2/11/2007
     184   K & P                              2/11/2007
     185   seiko & eleazar                    2/11/2007
     186   Joy & Donny                        5/11/2007
     187   Anna & Mike                        5/11/2007
     188   Emily & John                       5/11/2007
     189   Asiya & Imran                      5/11/2007
     190   Kimberly & Eric                    6/11/2007
     191   S & S                              6/11/2007
     192   Sinoun & Scott                     6/11/2007
     193   Natalia & Kyle                     6/11/2007
     194   Fabian & Speirs                    6/11/2007
     195   Ying & Dave                        6/11/2007
     196   salah & regina                     7/11/2007
     197   Kathy & Brian                      7/11/2007
     198   Agustina & Tyler                   8/11/2007
     199   Andy & Caroline                    8/11/2007
     200   Jianli & Jeff                      8/11/2007
     201   Svetlana & Aaron                   9/11/2007
     202   Jay & Maria                        9/11/2007
     203   S & J                              9/11/2007
     204   babydoll & lovestrong              9/11/2007
     205   Pai & Devan                        9/11/2007
     206   Rosalinda & Randy                  9/11/2007
     207   Mayumi & Anthony                  10/11/2007
     208   Genet & meseret                   11/11/2007
     209   Hana & mike                       11/11/2007
     210   Tero & Karel                      13/11/2007
     211   Joy & Jeff                        13/11/2007
     212   Cristy & Clint                    14/11/2007
     213   Ghe & Joe                         16/11/2007
     214   Natcha & Austin                   19/11/2007
     215   Christine & Steve                 19/11/2007
     216   WiFi & Pipe                       19/11/2007
     217   Ces & JoDeana                     19/11/2007
     218   Neha & Ryan                       19/11/2007
     219   Kun & Zack                        20/11/2007
     220   Gbenga & Jennifer                 21/11/2007
     221   Samad & Autumn                    21/11/2007
     222   Riza & Ryan                       21/11/2007
     223   Crisoforo & Maria                 22/11/2007
     224   Yulan & Steven                    23/11/2007
     225   Tom & Stephanie                   23/11/2007
     226   Oleksandra & Mark                 26/11/2007
     227   Elvira & Brian                    26/11/2007
     228   Ninfa & Rodge                     28/11/2007
     229   Mely & Mike                       28/11/2007
     230   K & D                             29/11/2007
     231   Florilda & Dean                   29/11/2007
     232   Irina & Rod                        4/12/2007
     233   Joseph & Sylvia                    4/12/2007
     234   Diazel & Mike                      4/12/2007
     235   U & M                              5/12/2007
     236   Onur & Julia                       6/12/2007
     237   Stuart & Shannon                   6/12/2007
     238   Hui & Alan                         6/12/2007
     239   N/A & N/A                          6/12/2007
     240   Mayra & Jaime                      6/12/2007
     241   ez & rm                            6/12/2007
     242   James & Jen                        7/12/2007
     243   Hans & Marilyn                     7/12/2007
     244   Adrienn & David                   11/12/2007
     245   Goosy & Donald Itek               11/12/2007
     246   Norma & Scott                     12/12/2007
     247   Jin & Kevin                       13/12/2007
     248   Daa & Jason                       17/12/2007
     249   Julia & David                     17/12/2007
     250   Larisa & Doug                     17/12/2007
     251   Dianne & Ryan                     18/12/2007
     252   Thuy & Ich                        18/12/2007
     253   Giovanni & La                     18/12/2007
     254   mary ann & jared                  19/12/2007
     255   vina & les                        20/12/2007
     256   Beth & Rick                       22/12/2007
     257   Bhing & Jeff                      24/12/2007
     258   Kyoung & Kevin                    26/12/2007
     259   Elias & Traci                     27/12/2007
     260   German & Jen                      27/12/2007
     261   S & V                             28/12/2007
     262   Tatyana & Paul                    29/12/2007
     263   Maribel & Michael                 31/12/2007
     264   Hannah & Mark                      2/01/2008
     265   Badr & Aimee                       3/01/2008
     266   Aliona & Bryant                    3/01/2008
     267   Julia & Timothy                    3/01/2008
     268   relyn & patrick                    4/01/2008
     269   Sylvester & Toni                   4/01/2008
     270   Ten & DJ                           7/01/2008
     271   Zrinka & Eric                      8/01/2008
     272   Irina & Steve                      8/01/2008
     273   Cecile & Bryan                     8/01/2008
     274   Nueng & Wayne                      9/01/2008
     275   Yuliya & Brian                    11/01/2008
     276   Kiki & Frank                      11/01/2008
     277   WW & MM                           14/01/2008
     278   Eliciana & Benjamin               14/01/2008
     279   Erica & Scott                     16/01/2008
     280   Rachel & Alex                     17/01/2008
     281   Elena & Sergey                    17/01/2008
     282   jen & jay                         19/01/2008
     283   Gavin & Meghan                    23/01/2008
     284   Nadya & Kirk                who cares? they're last either way :p

Edited January 28, 2008 by StillThePrettiest

[Jeraly 4]

LMAO

[snowfrostedlashes 0]

Read this from the fiancee:

>HELLO:

>

>Tonight I will be traveling to Cuenca, what about if we talk on tuesday night..... We need to talk about our relashionship.......ok.

>

>Take care

>Cristina

It is not known what this "talk" will entail, but I suspect that she will be dumping me in favor of her new business or for other reasons.

Perhaps she's got pre-interview nerves or something? Maybe something happened and she's worried how you will react when she tells you - could be something like a family member being ill and her needing to be around to help with that. I understand you wanting to prepare yourself for the worst but don't be so certain she's planning to dump you until (and if) it actually happens.

Although... does she always say 'take care' ? Because I would have thought 'I love you' would be a more standard way to sign off on a message, although I realise that different people express emotions in different ways in written form.

Can you message her back and tell her that you're concerned that something is wrong because she's been distant recently and want to know if there's anything that you can do to help. Let her know that you're there for her and that whatever she's going through you can get through it together... I'll be hoping for the best for you!

[Igor&Elina 0]

Ha Ha!!!

StP, you go girl!!!

[bakofoil 27]

Here's a different wrinkle: There seems to be no vehicle for reporting valid timelines when relationships have been abandoned. Read this from the fiancee:

>HELLO:

>

>Tonight I will be traveling to Cuenca, what about if we talk on tuesday night..... We need to talk about our relashionship.......ok.

>

>Take care

>Cristina

It is not known what this "talk" will entail, but I suspect that she will be dumping me in favor of her new business or for other reasons. I don't plan to push her too hard unless there's an opening for things to get better, but the question for me is, if she says "I need more time" (to decide, to build her business, whatever), to decide for myself whether things can be salvaged and/or how long I intend to continue to let my feelings be disrespected and disregarded. (She did NOT react to the news of our papers heading to the consulate as a loving other-half would/should.)

The above is a circular way of asking this: Because there is precious little information on Ecuador timelines, and because the papers have made much (most?) of their route through the immigration system, is there a mechanism via which "partial" processing information/timelines from abandoned relationships can remain on VJ for the help of others, and to build on existing information that may be sparse? Or is this a Cap'n Ewok question?

Any and all responses to the direct question and to the situation will be appreciated.

Hey Tbone. I'm sure it must be a very worrying time for you right now. It's probably not helpful to jump the gun and assume that she is about to end the relationship but what might be helpful is to consider your responses before tomorrow night.

If she needs more time - you can give it. She does know I assume that there is a six month period following the issue of a visa in which she can find the time to tidy up all the loose ends. There is a possibility that she is just not ready *right now* and an impending interview will only serve to complicate things for her. These things can be worked out but you do need an open and honest conversation about that. That way you could avoid the feelings of being disregarded.

I really don't know what to advise if things are coming to an end - but I do feel that is something we shouldn't be assuming at this stage.

I think Cap'n Ewok could answer your final question. Good of you to be thinking of others going through this process.

Good luck

[mox 298]

Any and all responses to the direct question and to the situation will be appreciated.

Seriously, I just don't know what to say.

I think the best thing to do at this point is to hear her out and go from there. I'm not gonna blow smoke up your asz and say that it could be something different entirely, because it sounds like you've pretty much suspected this was coming. On the other hand, isn't there a chance it could be something else?

I'm sorry. This is really the best I can come up with right now. I feel awful. I know it sounds trite, but I really do hope you both can get it sorted.

[bakofoil 27]

Perhaps she's got pre-interview nerves or something? Maybe something happened and she's worried how you will react when she tells you - could be something like a family member being ill and her needing to be around to help with that. I understand you wanting to prepare yourself for the worst but don't be so certain she's planning to dump you until (and if) it actually happens.

These are my thoughts.

[Jeraly 4]

*hugs TBone and tries to think of something witty to say*

*fails*

[TBoneTX 45,304]

1. Unlikely -- she would have worded things differently, and mentioned something about it. No interview date has been scheduled yet, anyway.

2. No, and she didn't even call me by name, let alone a term of endearment. Her last three e-mails have been progressively colder.

3. Good idea that we're probably beyond.

The best scenario that I can envision is that she thinks that things (interview, visa, U.S.) would happen ALL AT ONCE, and she would want a reasonable amount of additional time. But, since she says "relationship," I bet that it means exactly what it says. Thanks.

Perhaps she's got pre-interview nerves or something? Maybe something happened and she's worried how you will react when she tells you - could be something like a family member being ill and her needing to be around to help with that. I understand you wanting to prepare yourself for the worst but don't be so certain she's planning to dump you until (and if) it actually happens.

Although... does she always say 'take care' ? Because I would have thought 'I love you' would be a more standard way to sign off on a message, although I realise that different people express emotions in different ways in written form.

Can you message her back and tell her that you're concerned that something is wrong because she's been distant recently and want to know if there's anything that you can do to help. Let her know that you're there for her and that whatever she's going through you can get through it together... I'll be hoping for the best for you!

To everyone else who wrote while I was initially answering this: I am glad that you're my friends.

Edited January 28, 2008 by TBoneTX

[Igor&Elina 0]

TBone,

I dont' know what I can add to what's been said above. I really hope it works out for the best for you!

[mox 298]

Um...all hail the great and powerful StillThePrettiest, who had absolutely NOTHING to do with any waiting list issues at all. In fact, there are NO waiting list issues at all, they were...um...all imaginary. So in short, StillThePrettiest good and powerful, mox bad and scummish.

*grovel*

*grovel*

*grovel*

[Jeraly 4]

LMAO

Scummish is a great word...

[TBoneTX 45,304]

*grovel*

*grovel*

*grovel*

Mox, wear elbow and knee pads, because your epidermis can get very chewed up among all those little sharp rocks. Why can't they at least use blacktop?

[bakofoil 27]

Um...all hail the great and powerful StillThePrettiest, who had absolutely NOTHING to do with any waiting list issues at all. In fact, there are NO waiting list issues at all, they were...um...all imaginary. So in short, StillThePrettiest good and powerful, mox bad and scummish.

*grovel*

*grovel*

*grovel*

You're such a brown-nose! *Pokes StP's list in the good eye*