My first RFE for I-751 help needed

[ACalmCountry 17]

On 11/30/2023 at 2:07 PM, OldUser said:

Which state are you trying to get your ID from? Why GC and extension letter are not working? They're probably accepted. Renewing passport is important too, though I understand this may be expensive and addressed later.

California. Are you saying that they might accept the expired Green Card if i use the extention letter? I haven't tried yet was just concerned when i read what they required that i didn't have anything in the first category. I'll give them a call tomorrow.

 

Edited December 3, 2023 by ACalmCountry

[ACalmCountry 17]

Ok so today i decided to sit down and start the process. I intend to address each point of evidence one by one. However i'm stuck on the first point! 

The first point is:
 

Documentation showing you cohabited, commingled finances and shared responsibilty for financial liabilities during the condtional residency period.

 

It is a fairly straightforward suggestion of what is required. But in point four later in the RFE they ask for bank statements/joint taxes etc And in point two they ask for lease etc

 

So how do i address this first point? Is it just covered by everything suggested later on in the RFE?  Also the conditional residency period part is making me neurotic. I guess understand how to show that but they don't want me to focus just on those two years do they? I should send everything right? 
I can't believe i'm stuck on the very first point! The rest of the RFE (although stressful) i feel like i can make sense of but perhaps i'm overthinking this all. Any suggestions? How would you guys deal with this first point?

 

[Crazy Cat 41,836]

On 11/27/2023 at 6:45 PM, ACalmCountry said:

 

Hi I was granted conditional status in 2020 and it expired 2022. We submitted our I - 751

two years ago and have just now received a RFE. I’m stressing out which I guess is normal. After all this time and with no interview required or fingerprinting I had been hopeful that everything was fine. So now I need to take a deep breath gather the required evidence and resubmit. I need some help though hence my posting here. I intend to go through each evidence requirement point one at a time. One of the first pieces of evidence I’m required to resubmit is documented evidence that we cohabited, commingled finances and shared financial liabilities during the conditional residency period. 
I assume this means between me being granted conditional status (2020) and when it expired (2022). We provided the following in our packet: 

Current Car Insurance Policy

Copies Of Bank Statements for the year of 2020
Copies Of Bank Statements for the year of 2021

What else theoretically would show this? 
Also should I provide new bank statements from 2021 to now? 
 

I agree with @OldUser.  It time to throw in everything including the kitchen sink.  You won't get another chance.  

[ACalmCountry 17]

1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

I agree with @OldUser.  It time to throw in everything including the kitchen sink.  You won't get another chance.  

Thanks so much for your reply. Yes i know this is the last chance which is why i feel so much pressure. God this is stressful. 

[Crazy Cat 41,836]

41 minutes ago, ACalmCountry said:

Thanks so much for your reply. Yes i know this is the last chance which is why i feel so much pressure. God this is stressful. 

Try not to stress.  Just give them what they want.  One day, in the near future, you will be rid of USCIS.  I looked at FY to date statistics today.  By my calculations, only about 1% of I-751s are actually denied.  That tells me they need to just get rid of them altogether.  Good luck. 

[OldUser 6,633]

Just start the process online and get an appointment. Or show up without the appointment.

 

Here's the accepted documentation https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-licenses-identification-cards/real-id/real-id-checklist/

 

You have it:

 

"Valid Permanent Resident Card with Notice of Action (I-797 C) or Approval Notice (I-797)"

 

Make sure to bring two papers proving your address, such as bank statements or utility bills showing the name and address.

 

 

Edited December 4, 2023 by OldUser

[ACalmCountry 17]

20 hours ago, Crazy Cat said:

Try not to stress.  Just give them what they want.  One day, in the near future, you will be rid of USCIS.  I looked at FY to date statistics today.  By my calculations, only about 1% of I-751s are actually denied.  That tells me they need to just get rid of them altogether.  Good luck. 

Thanks so much for pointing that out. I think it feels difficult right now because of the stress. It’s been two years since we put it in and I’m having trouble returning to that mindset of gathering evidence,writing cover letters etc I’m overthinking things and just being generally neurotic. I really appreciate everyone here’s help I sure need it right now. 

[ACalmCountry 17]

19 hours ago, OldUser said:

Just start the process online and get an appointment. Or show up without the appointment.

 

Here's the accepted documentation https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-licenses-identification-cards/real-id/real-id-checklist/

 

You have it:

 

"Valid Permanent Resident Card with Notice of Action (I-797 C) or Approval Notice (I-797)"

 

Make sure to bring two papers proving your address, such as bank statements or utility bills showing the name and address.

 

 

 

Yes I have the notice I guess I thought that wouldn’t be valid because the green card is now expired . But I understand you are saying just show the notice you have it. No problem understood. Thanks again I’ll get right on this today. Having that ID card will be important just another thing with my current address to show. 

Edited December 4, 2023 by ACalmCountry

[ACalmCountry 17]

20 hours ago, OldUser said:

Just start the process online and get an appointment. Or show up without the appointment.

 

Here's the accepted documentation https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/driver-licenses-identification-cards/real-id/real-id-checklist/

 

You have it:

 

"Valid Permanent Resident Card with Notice of Action (I-797 C) or Approval Notice (I-797)"

 

Make sure to bring two papers proving your address, such as bank statements or utility bills showing the name and address.

 

 

 

 

Another quick question regarding this ID card. We have a home address for the apartment where we live but we also have a PO BOX that we use for our mailing address .The PO BOX is in a nearby town. On the ID application it is asking me :
"Do you get mail at this address? * DMV will print your mailing address on your driver's license or ID card, and will then mail it to this address"

 

I'm wondering now if i should put the apartments address on the ID rather than the PO BOX. Considering that most of the mail i am presenting as evidence for my RFE  has my apartment address. And just on that subject. Should we also provide evidence of our shared PO BOX in our response to our RFE? Dear me, every decision i make brings up new questions! 

[OldUser 6,633]

3 minutes ago, ACalmCountry said:

 

 

Another quick question regarding this ID card. We have a home address for the apartment where we live but we also have a PO BOX that we use for our mailing address .The PO BOX is in a nearby town. On the ID application it is asking me :
"Do you get mail at this address? * DMV will print your mailing address on your driver's license or ID card, and will then mail it to this address"

I guess you cannot use PO box for address since PO Box canno be put as address on the license.

[OldUser 6,633]

5 minutes ago, ACalmCountry said:

Should we also provide evidence of our shared PO BOX in our response to our RFE? Dear me, every decision i make brings up new questions! 

I cannot give a legal advice on this, but I'd think if both names are on PO box agreement, you can use this as evidence.

[mindthegap 2,590]

On 12/3/2023 at 4:31 PM, ACalmCountry said:

 I should send everything right? 

 

Yes. Everything.

Every single thing you can think of, obtain, remember, that shows anything connecting the two of you in any manner, both in address and in life.

Every. Single. Thing.

Get some more affidavits too, from people who know you both as husband and wife, down to the random person in that shop you can think of that knows you both. Print off random emails between you asking what groceries you want that night, or seemingly run of the mill things you have texted (with the date showing). Show that you have ecxhanged 5643 emails over the last 3 years.

 

If you, as many are, are weak on this specific stupid arbitrary checklist of evidence that they somehow deem in their heads is necessary - and bear in mind this load of rubbish is completely subjective and down to the individual officers whims and what/how they personally perceive a 'valid' relationship - then it's time to get creative, right down to the junk mail that comes in the mailbox addressed to you both. You cannot provide what doesn't exist, so all you can do is provide what does.

 

That is why my last filing was over 4000 pieces of paper (printed front and back).

Everything. Just chuck it all in there. 

Edited December 4, 2023 by mindthegap

[OldUser 6,633]

9 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

 

Yes. Everything.

Every single thing you can think of, obtain, remember, that shows anything connecting the two of you in any manner, both in address and in life.

Every. Single. Thing.

Get some more affidavits too, from people who know you both as husband and wife, down to the random person in that shop you can think of that knows you both. Print off random emails between you asking what groceries you want that night, or seemingly run of the mill things you have texted (with the date showing). Show that you have ecxhanged 5643 emails over the last 3 years.

 

If you, as many are, are weak on this specific stupid arbitrary checklist of evidence that they somehow deem in their heads is necessary - and bear in mind this load of rubbish is completely subjective and down to the individual officers whims and what/how they personally perceive a 'valid' relationship - then it's time to get creative, right down to the junk mail that comes in the mailbox addressed to you both. You cannot provide what doesn't exist, so all you can do is provide what does.

 

That is why my last filing was over 4000 pieces of paper (printed front and back).

Everything. Just chuck it all in there. 

Cannot agree more.

As an idea @ACalmCountry , if you call each other often on cell phone, get detailed statements from wireless carrier showing those 30 second calls when you confirm with your spouse whether to buy 2% milk, full fat milk, or dairy free at the supermarket.

[ACalmCountry 17]

23 hours ago, mindthegap said:

 

Yes. Everything.

Every single thing you can think of, obtain, remember, that shows anything connecting the two of you in any manner, both in address and in life.

Every. Single. Thing.

Get some more affidavits too, from people who know you both as husband and wife, down to the random person in that shop you can think of that knows you both. Print off random emails between you asking what groceries you want that night, or seemingly run of the mill things you have texted (with the date showing). Show that you have ecxhanged 5643 emails over the last 3 years.

 

If you, as many are, are weak on this specific stupid arbitrary checklist of evidence that they somehow deem in their heads is necessary - and bear in mind this load of rubbish is completely subjective and down to the individual officers whims and what/how they personally perceive a 'valid' relationship - then it's time to get creative, right down to the junk mail that comes in the mailbox addressed to you both. You cannot provide what doesn't exist, so all you can do is provide what does.

 

That is why my last filing was over 4000 pieces of paper (printed front and back).

Everything. Just chuck it all in there. 

Thanks for your post. It makes it pretty clear that I should throw in everything but the kitchen sink. This makes me feel ill though because I feel overwhelmed as it is. Having trouble getting started. Everything I think of brings up new questions which stalls my progress. At the moment the comingling is what I’m obsessing over. We have a joint account so no problem there. I am the sole provider of income. Can someone give me clear practical advice on how to show that we are sharing our money. We have no assets  apart from the fact we were recently gifted a car so that’s in both our names which is at least something. We don’t really buy much for each other. We are in a low income live paycheck to paycheck. I have some receipts for anniversary gifts etc and some photos too. But on the statements themselves how do I show that we are both using the funds from my pay? I believe her card number is different on the actual credit card even though we do have a joint account with Chase. For example We rent so highlighting where we have drawn money out to pay the rent on the statement is possible but how does that show comingling.I guess what I am asking is how do I show the comingling? When we first put our package all we did was send what we had in terms of the bank statements at that point. 

[ACalmCountry 17]

Feeling very stressed again. Another setback today. I went to my landlord to obtain copies of our current lease. He has that. When I asked for previous leases featuring both our signatures he went through them. Some of the lease agreements don’t have my signature. The early leases I probably wasnt working yet so that explains why I’m not on it . My probation period was 2020 till 2022. It looks like I’m listed on the lease for 2020 so that’s good. No signature though. Anyway he’s going to give me everything he has and then I’ll assess I guess.