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Hello,

 

We received a RFE today for the I-485 and we feel might be screwed. They're asking for evidence of shared marital life together after early May 2023 (we got married around then). We don't have anything like shared utility bills, leases, etc., because we live with my family and most of the things are in my parents' name and we never bothered to open a joint bank account or anything like that. What we do have is a lot of pictures together in the past 5 months showing us going on many trips together, but I'm not sure what is enough. Not sure what to do or if it's too late to get new evidence. We have a few months to respond to the RFE.

 

 

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Parents can write affidavit stating you live with them. 

Provide IDs with shared address. 

SEPARATE ANYTHING with SAME address. 

Can't say you get zero pieces of mail???

 

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Phone bill, car insurance, same address on driver license/state ID, mail sent to one or both of you at the same address, if you have a pet vet bills/forms listing both of you as owners, medical insurance EOB listing owner of policy/beneficiary, beneficiary designation forms from school/work, library cards, junk mail sent to one or both of you at the same address... You've got none of this?

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7 hours ago, CebuGuy said:

Hello,

 

We received a RFE today for the I-485 and we feel might be screwed. They're asking for evidence of shared marital life together after early May 2023 (we got married around then). We don't have anything like shared utility bills, leases, etc., because we live with my family and most of the things are in my parents' name and we never bothered to open a joint bank account or anything like that. What we do have is a lot of pictures together in the past 5 months showing us going on many trips together, but I'm not sure what is enough. Not sure what to do or if it's too late to get new evidence. We have a few months to respond to the RFE.

 

 

Anything which shows you both living at the same address or engaged in the same activities will help.  The immigration process requires thinking ahead from start to finish.  Always consider what kind of evidence you might need in the future.  Good luck.

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1 hour ago, Crazy Cat said:

Anything which shows you both living at the same address or engaged in the same activities will help.  The immigration process requires thinking ahead from start to finish.  Always consider what kind of evidence you might need in the future.  Good luck.

 

We kind of realized in hindsight that what we sent originally in the I-485 wasn't enough and we should have done more to have solid evidence. It's too late but we're trying our best. We're trying to gather as much as we can and get new stuff like joint accounts/billings/etc. We have proof we went to a lot of places like Disneyland, Vegas, etc.

 

The plan is to send all that in the RFE response by next month.

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7 minutes ago, CebuGuy said:

We have proof we went to a lot of places like Disneyland, Vegas, etc.

You need something showing you are living together at the same location.  Get a lease agreement ASAP!  Get a couple personal affidavits ASAP!!   Apply for joint bank account and credit cards ASAP!!!  

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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25 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

You need something showing you are living together at the same location.  Get a lease agreement ASAP!  Get a couple personal affidavits ASAP!!   Apply for joint bank account and credit cards ASAP!!!  

 

I spoke with my parents and it shouldn't be a problem to transfer the lease from them to us (we have a very casual/informal tenant relationship with our landlords). Trying to add my spouse to my accounts and everything today. We have some personal photos together with family and good friends. I can get them to write affidavits for us. Do the affidavits need to accompanied copies of their government ID? I'm thinking being hand written is okay.

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Just now, CebuGuy said:

 

I spoke with my parents and it shouldn't be a problem to transfer the lease from them to us (we have a very casual/informal tenant relationship with our landlords). Trying to add my spouse to my accounts and everything today.

Great!  At this point, it's time to throw everything you can at the RFE.  If you get a denial, you will have to refile the I-485, I-765, etc.  Good luck. 

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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Your situation isn't unusual but it puts you in an "everything but the kitchen sink" scenario where you need to provide every scrap of evidence you can pull together. 

 

Some pointers and other ideas for things to provide:

  • For the photos, put them into a Word doc where you can add a description (we did 4 to a page). In the description, put the date, location, and names of everyone in the photo. 
  • For evidence of trips together, include any reservations, tickets, confirmations, etc. that show your names. 
  • Are you both on the same car insurance policy? If so, use the policy documents listing both of your names
  • Are you both on the same health insurance? If so, provide proof
  • Do you have any joint memberships? Gym, Costco, etc. 
  • Are you on the same mobile phone plan? If so, provide proof
  • Are you listed as beneficiaries on any accounts (retirement, life insurance, savings account, etc.)? If so, provide proof
  • Have you received any invitations or cards addressed/written to you both (wedding, holiday, etc.)? 
  • If you are each other's emergency contacts for work, school, doctor, etc., see if you can get documentation of it

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We did

- DL showing the same address

- Car insurance 

- Health insurance from work

- 3 Joint bank accounts (for earlier forms for AOS we also included joint credit card statements)

- The only utility bill that may wife's name is on is for gas

- And 2 pages with 3 pictures on each page from our wedding and honeymoon trip

 

No RFEs. 

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