Losing US citizenship for living abroad

[Boiler 45,753]

Was anyone ever de naturalised? Sounds like something that was never enforced and they dispensed with it.

[yuna628 9,687]

Good grief what a strange thing for a lawyer to scaremonger on their website.

 

Anyway prior to 1994, do we know anyone who may have been denaturalized due to living abroad? Or was it one of those things that was not enforced? I ask because I'm sure there were plenty of dual citizens that were famous that enjoyed living in both countries, just as they do now. My great grandmother would usually spend time living in both of her countries with no issues that I am aware of. Researching naturalization records is something I do regularly for genealogy. I don't know any ancestor on his or my side that had problems.

 

I mean 22 USC 1731 provides the same protections to naturalized citizens as native born while living abroad. The 1964 SCOTUS case was pretty clear as well. It stated that doing what this law firm suggests is unconstitutional. It's not a murky or grey area as many SCOTUS cases can be. The history of the 1964 case, dated back to the 1907 Nationality Act, which could be rebutted. The 1940 introduced rule to 'strengthen' that act, SCOTUS determined was clearly unconstitutional. The justices determined the test for expatriation was quite high under the constitution and the government had flagrantly not met that test. Looking back at the wording of the decision shows their reasoning and other examples that strengthens the ruling. https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/377/163 There are lots of deep analysis on this case so it's funny this law group ignores that.

 

12 hours ago, Boiler said:

Written by an intern?

I think they need to get a new intern!

 

Also Cenk is an idiot. I can't wait for him to get tossed out of court. 

Edited October 13, 2023 by yuna628

[Boiler 45,753]

I have never heard of an issue and like now pretty sure I remember cases where a child was born in the US, went home grew up married and then wanted a few decades later to move their family to the US.

 

I would have thought this would be something I would remember if it was an issue,

[WaterLeaf 201]

A few nights ago my Cousin (76 yrs old) was trying to argu with me saying anyone can get away from the USA by living oversea and abandon their US Citizenship.

 

I told him that's not how it happens. It take more effort than it seems.

 

That didn't work for him, he don't believe anything I said. Well, he could always look at the reputable website but he still disagree on it.

 

Nothing will change their mind when they are stuck in that mindset.

[Crazy Cat 41,985]

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Edited October 13, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Ontarkie 14,320]

~~Moved to General Immigration Discussion, from US Citizenship General Discussion- As the topic is not about the filling process.~~

[Family 4,065]

Having US Citizenship stripped is a formal affair ..with notice and process . Even with pressure from extreme right administrations / packed Supremes ..radical changes will face litigation . 
 

You can add other resources to your reading ..see what ATLAS is up to and maybe lessen the worries 

https://www.aila.org/infonet/justice-department-secures-first-denaturalization

But , I must say give kudos to Cenek for starting a primary challenge 

[JKLSemicolon 414]

5 hours ago, Boiler said:

I have never heard of an issue and like now pretty sure I remember cases where a child was born in the US, went home grew up married and then wanted a few decades later to move their family to the US.

 

I would have thought this would be something I would remember if it was an issue,

I know someone who did exactly that, moving to the US as a citizen in their 40s with family in tow after being born in the US, leaving as an infant and never going back in between.

 

Of course, that made them a natural-born citizen as opposed to a naturalized citizen which I think this thread was presumably about.

[Boiler 45,753]

There is a current ongoing thread, child is at Uni in home country and will not be finished for some time, parents want to be sponsored now and not wait. Seems they left not long after the child was born.

[TBoneTX 45,659]

15 hours ago, Boiler said:

Was anyone ever de naturalised

This brings memories of the chemical solution with the notice, "Completely Denatured Alcohol.
"

[Boiler 45,753]

 

[Crazy Cat 41,985]

I laughed out loud at Cenk.  Cenk's case is already DOA. 

On a side note:  Cenk is correct in that running Biden is a big risk.

Edited October 15, 2023 by Crazy Cat