Hate crime or free speech?

[Saddle Bronc 124]

The very use of the term "hate crime" is itself an issue--as just about every crime of violence is done out of malice.

And who has ever heard of "love crimes"?

If I steal from you, doesn't mean I hate you - just means I care more about my own well-being.

stealing generally means item was taken when I wasn't there; you must mean "If I rob you...".

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The very use of the term "hate crime" is itself an issue--as just about every crime of violence is done out of malice.

And who has ever heard of "love crimes"?

If I steal from you, doesn't mean I hate you - just means I care more about my own well-being.

stealing generally means item was taken when I wasn't there; you must mean "If I rob you...".

Same jazz really.

[Scott & Lai 12]

The very use of the term "hate crime" is itself an issue--as just about every crime of violence is done out of malice.

And who has ever heard of "love crimes"?

Crimes of passion?

Assisted suicide?

"Passion" is not equivalent to love. Not all passion is love.

stealing generally means item was taken when I wasn't there; you must mean "If I rob you...".

Same jazz really.

No, it isn't. Robbing involves at least the threat of physical violence. Which is why burglary and robbery are treated as different crimes.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The very use of the term "hate crime" is itself an issue--as just about every crime of violence is done out of malice.

And who has ever heard of "love crimes"?

Crimes of passion?

Assisted suicide?

"Passion" is not equivalent to love. Not all passion is love.

Sure. But sometimes it can be. No?

stealing generally means item was taken when I wasn't there; you must mean "If I rob you...".

Same jazz really.

No, it isn't. Robbing involves at least the threat of physical violence. Which is why burglary and robbery are treated as different crimes.

In context of the general point that Mawilson made (in response to another general point about crimes being about 'hate and malice') its exactly the same

Generally speaking, a person wouldn't rob you because they hate you - but because they want what you have and are rather indifferent to your feelings. They'd steal from you for much the same reason - not because they want to hurt you by doing it, but because they care more about themselves than about you - and are (again) indifferent to any injury their action might do to you.

[almaty 19]

The very use of the term "hate crime" is itself an issue--as just about every crime of violence is done out of malice.

And who has ever heard of "love crimes"?

Crimes of passion?

Assisted suicide?

"Passion" is not equivalent to love. Not all passion is love.

stealing generally means item was taken when I wasn't there; you must mean "If I rob you...".

Same jazz really.

No, it isn't. Robbing involves at least the threat of physical violence. Which is why burglary and robbery are treated as different crimes.

disagree, you can be robbed with no violence..as in getting pick-pocketed..

[Hilarious Clinton 452]

The guy had no other choice. He had to keep his art in the bathroom. He doesn't want to be beheaded. Look at the sh!t-storm caused over a few cartoons in Denmark.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

The guy had no other choice. He had to keep his art in the bathroom. He doesn't want to be beheaded. Look at the sh!t-storm caused over a few cartoons in Denmark.

A petty, (clearly malicious) criminal act is not 'art'.