Yo! Happy Wednesday!!!!

[♥JP♥ 5]

It's not unusual hair compared to the rest of the world, but it is a minority in the U.S. Which is the only reason it might make sense to find a barber who knows what he's doing with it, and why a barber who serves an ethnic group with hair with a similar texture is probably not a bad proxy for 'won't get fed up and shave my husband's head because it won't lie flat.'

And while African-American hair does come in a range of styles and textures, it tends to be more kinky, and more fragile than even comparably curly hair from people of European descent. It needs different treatment and hair care. That's not to say there's anything wrong with it! But just as a blunt cut won't work on my curls (my hair was NOT curled for the wedding pics. It does that on its own.), a salon designed for people with long straight hair with a loose wavy probably isn't the best place for a person with tight curls to try to get a haircut because the stylist isn't going to have a clue. I know amira knows this site about curls.

A high-end salon with someone trained by Ouidad or Devacurl will make curls look awesome, but that's probably a wasted expense on a man who just wants a haircut.

Exactly. Maybe the word, used in a different context could be offensive. For example, the way Imus used it. I go to an Assyrian hairdresser becuase she has a large clientele of Assyrian women who have kinky hair. Does that mean that all Assyrian women have kinky hair? NO.

I think the racism card was pulled out wayyyyyyyy too quickly in this instance. If someone is offened that is fine, you can state that without using the racism card.

[UmmSqueakster 54]

I suppose that my experience with the word has been colored by my roommate sophmore year who used it quite often to refer to her own (quite beautiful) fro and her struggles with finding a barber who knew how to deal with her natural hair or who wouldn't try to force chemical treatment on her. She never minded when I used it *shrugs*

No malicious intent was intended, and I apologize if some were offended. How should I refer to my husband's hair? Fluffy? Kinky?

Segwaying into a similar, less charged topic - for those of us with "white girl" hair, how does your SO react to it? The husband has made the comment that he hopes our children have hair like mine. But then again, he's never seen my hair on an increadibly humid day - it's almost as fro-ish (no offense meant with this term) as his.

Edited August 2, 2007 by rahma

[Caladan 19]

I used to hate getting my haircut because I had a stylist tell me she felt sorry for me. Just what an awkward teenager needs! But the last few years I've been lucky in that there seem to be more stylists who know what to do with hair that's a bit nuts.

[♥JP♥ 5]

I used to hate getting my haircut because I had a stylist tell me she felt sorry for me. Just what an awkward teenager needs! But the last few years I've been lucky in that there seem to be more stylists who know what to do with hair that's a bit nuts.

On a side not, curly girl only worked for me for a short time. I'm about ready to shave my head!

[Caladan 19]

Noooo! What's happened?

[♥JP♥ 5]

Well at first my hair responded well. My curls were really pretty, loose, and defined. As time went on, they got kinkier and I had a huge problem with shrinkage. No matter what I do though, my hair is really dry. Even if I cut my hair, it remains dry at the ends. I have been using some balm on the ends and that helps but I feel like its frying my hair even more.

I still can't find a decent shampoo/conditioner combo as well.

[Nasturtium 500]

I know two curly haired women who swear by covering their hair in olive oil and yogurt, leaving it in for 20 minutes, then washing it (and only washing their hair once a week). But the best thing I ever found for curing dryness is Frederic Fekkai PM treatment which is EXPENSIVE.

[sereia 0]

i know i posted in that other thread about my fiance's hair being "nappy" but i haven't read it since and am not surprised someone took offense to our comments. when i read the first person's reply about her husband having nappy hair i instantly thought of the recent controversy and knew someone here would comment. i didn't think our comments were racist at all and don't understand why people are so overly sensitive and feel the need to be so overly PC these days?! (insert a barf emoticon here)

my fiance is african. my fiance has extremely coarse hair. my hair is naturally curly and extremely frizzy, yet a normal thickness. why does this have to be racist? yesterday at an amusement park i saw a tall white man who had a huge head of coarse, dirty blonde, nappy frizzy hair.

btw, that deva curl salon in NYC is no good. lol my stylist in NYC told me their trick is to tell you never to use shampoo. she had many clients who came in after going to deva for a while and they all stank to high heavens! LOL!!!!!!

[Caladan 19]

Well at first my hair responded well. My curls were really pretty, loose, and defined. As time went on, they got kinkier and I had a huge problem with shrinkage. No matter what I do though, my hair is really dry. Even if I cut my hair, it remains dry at the ends. I have been using some balm on the ends and that helps but I feel like its frying my hair even more.

I still can't find a decent shampoo/conditioner combo as well.

Your hair might be over conditioned. Have you tried any sort of clarifying treatment?

sereia, I went to an affiliated Devacurl place here in New Haven and I have been very happy with it. And I don't have stinky hair, either! I use the 'No-Poo' line of really gentle shampoo, but even if you don't do that, you can 'wash' your hair with conditioner.

[♥JP♥ 5]

Well at first my hair responded well. My curls were really pretty, loose, and defined. As time went on, they got kinkier and I had a huge problem with shrinkage. No matter what I do though, my hair is really dry. Even if I cut my hair, it remains dry at the ends. I have been using some balm on the ends and that helps but I feel like its frying my hair even more.

I still can't find a decent shampoo/conditioner combo as well.

Your hair might be over conditioned. Have you tried any sort of clarifying treatment?

sereia, I went to an affiliated Devacurl place here in New Haven and I have been very happy with it. And I don't have stinky hair, either! I use the 'No-Poo' line of really gentle shampoo, but even if you don't do that, you can 'wash' your hair with conditioner.

I did the vinegar rinse a few times, it didn't seem to do much.

Jen, LOL, I did the no-poo method for about 3 months and was always worried that my hair was stinkly. I made everyone in sight smell it and everyone always told me it was fine.

[sereia 0]

i've got to give something a try then! i want my hair to look like myriam fares! lol

[Nasturtium 500]

i've got to give something a try then! i want my hair to look like myriam fares! lol

Go to Sephora and see if they have a trial size of Fekkai PM stuff. I got one and it was FANTASTIC. And free is a good price Wazzup jdog?! (I promise to never say that again.)

[♥JP♥ 5]

i've got to give something a try then! i want my hair to look like myriam fares! lol

So far the best results I have got are with this method:

Shampoo/condition hari

while conditioner is in hair, comb it with wide tooth comb

rinse and squeeze excess water out

add styling product, I use garnier curl and shine cream

plop hair into one of those towel turban thingys

go to bed

wake up to bouncy curls

Plopping:

flip head upside down,scrunch curls. put the towel thing on and rest all of your hair on the top of you head. wrap and secure towel turban.

make sure you dont twist hair into the towel

i've got to give something a try then! i want my hair to look like myriam fares! lol

Go to Sephora and see if they have a trial size of Fekkai PM stuff. I got one and it was FANTASTIC. And free is a good price Wazzup jdog?! (I promise to never say that again.)

How expensive is it? I tried kerastas and that was pricey IMO too. I think the small jar was $60. Didn't care for it though.

[Nasturtium 500]

How expensive is it? I tried kerastas and that was pricey IMO too. I think the small jar was $60. Didn't care for it though.

About $65 for a small bottle. If you have a sephora near you, they offer free trials of it (as long as they are in stock). I was thinking about periodically hitting mine up LOL. Before I'd spend the money, I'd do the trial. It's just a deep conditioner.. but I have oily hair and this didn't leave it all greasy (but did make it incredibly soft!). You put it in and leave it the entire night. It will dry and won't stain your pillow.

My ends feel so fried all the time and this was the only thing I found to make it feel better.

[sereia 0]

So far the best results I have got are with this method:

Shampoo/condition hari

while conditioner is in hair, comb it with wide tooth comb

rinse and squeeze excess water out

add styling product, I use garnier curl and shine cream

plop hair into one of those towel turban thingys

go to bed

wake up to bouncy curls

Plopping:

flip head upside down,scrunch curls. put the towel thing on and rest all of your hair on the top of you head. wrap and secure towel turban.

make sure you dont twist hair into the towel

whats this towel turban thing? a regular towel i do up like a turban or is there a special kind i should try? and shampoo- hari? whats that?

anyone have myriam's stylists phone number? lol

Go to Sephora and see if they have a trial size of Fekkai PM stuff. I got one and it was FANTASTIC. And free is a good price Wazzup jdog?! (I promise to never say that again.)

i'll definitely give it a try! things are good here girlie. i've got to call you!!! (or you call me!)