Israel Declares 'Readiness for War' After Hamas Launches Rocket Barrage, Infiltration

[OriZ 3,157]

On 11/10/2023 at 2:06 AM, TBoneTX said:

What do we think about VDH's points?  They seem to point to jihad as the destabilizing force in the world.

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Squeezing the World's Vulnerable Peoples

 

https://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2023/11/10/squeezing-the-worlds-vulnerable-peoples-n2631042

I mean...to me it seems for several decades now like stating the obvious

[OriZ 3,157]

11 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Be sure to play the <3-minute video at bottom here.

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The Israeli Psyche and How It Got That Way

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/11/10/the-israeli-psyche-and-how-it-got-that-way-n591562

100%. Saw the video the other day on X. But yes, what's been proven Is that more concessions don't translate into more peace but the opposite is true. Once Israel withdrew from Gaza they were able to build the tunnels, get a ton of rockets and more explosives etc. All much worse than before. After the Oslo accords the west Bank was going the same way, operation defensive shield which I mentioned a few weeks ago and following up on it with smaller operations since (often referred to as "lawn mowing") have made things calm down somewhat (but still worse than what it was before the deals). 

 

Current model I think for gaza is similar. To go back to being like Area B of the west Bank. I think it's doable. I would say I was never part of the extreme left, but also not the right. Growing up, I believed in peace, wanted to see it happen and was excited whenever they televised any new signings.

 

That has changed for me as well. It's now obvious to anyone with a brain (seems half the world + is missing one) that if Israel doesn't retain control over security in those areas it will very quickly come under existential threat. 

 

Also about hezbollah I personally think they've already taken it too far. I'm really tired of over a month of nothing but threats from Israel as well as the US while this ####### for tat is ongoing and escalating almost daily. I say Beirut needs to get buried now, not later. Or as always, the "later" will carry a much heavier price 

[OriZ 3,157]

The irony is that now alot of the anti Israel dimwits keep saying "there is no hamas in the west Bank so why is Israel attacking there too". Just more lies from the pathological liars side. Israel is fighting hamas there all the time which is why it's been weaker ever since 2003. But it's definitely there and if Israel didn't do what it does it would have already taken over the west Bank as well

[TBoneTX 45,251]

8 hours ago, OriZ said:

anyone with a brain (seems half the world + is missing one)

Most of the world doesn't even have an Occasional-Cortex.

8 hours ago, OriZ said:

Beirut needs to get buried now, not later

Where's the 1,000-upvotes button?

[TBoneTX 45,251]

Sick:  Footage Appears to Show Hamas Terrorists Shooting Fleeing Palestinian Civilians

 

[...] Reports suggest that at least a dozen Gaza residents were gunned down by Hamas as they attempted to escape to the southern portion of the region.  [...]

 

https://redstate.com/jeffc/2023/11/11/sick-footage-appears-to-show-hamas-terrorists-shooting-fleeing-palestinian-civilians-n2166194

[OriZ 3,157]

This one is also worth watching, from the 18th minute

 

 

[Boiler 45,445]

As Iran is behind this, worth a watch

 

 

[TBoneTX 45,251]

Good News:  IDF Eliminates Top Hamas Commander Who Held 1,000 Palestinian Civilians as Human Shields

 

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have wiped out another key Hamas leader as the conflict in Gaza presses on.  In a significant development, the Israeli military killed Ahmed Siam, who was reportedly holding about 1,000 Palestinian civilians hostage in a Gaza hospital.  [...]

 

https://redstate.com/jeffc/2023/11/12/good-news-idf-eliminates-top-hamas-commander-who-held-1000-palestinian-civilians-human-shields-n2166252

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IDF says Hamas blocked fuel delivery to Shifa Hospital as troops advance in Gaza

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/troops-advance-in-north-gaza-as-battles-continue-near-shifa-hospital/

[TBoneTX 45,251]

Israel Public News Station Video Shows Hamas Beating Civilians Seeking Humanitarian Aid (Watch)

 

[...] The video shows Hamas police beating Palestinians who were trying to get to food that was delivered by an aid truck.  According to the reporter, the source for the video claimed that the contents of the truck were then taken to supply Hamas' military wing.  While that aspect of the video cannot be confirmed here, the beatings taking place are very clear and undeniable.  [...]

 

https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2023/11/12/israel-public-broadcast-station-shows-video-of-hamas-beating-gazans-seeking-humanitarian-aid-n2389706

[TBoneTX 45,251]

Thoughts on this?  I think that even if these reliably anti-Israel outfits didn't know about the pending attack long in advance, they knew in time to communicate an emergency alarm as it began.

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Media in Panic Mode Over Questions About Whether They Knew in Advance About Hamas Attack on Israel

 

On October 7, four photojournalists who provide reporting and photos for the likes of the Associated Press (AP), CNN, the New York Times, Reuters, and other outlets were allegedly at the Israeli border with Hamas terrorists who committed acts of atrocities against innocent Israeli civilians that shocked the world.  Since an Israel-supporting news watchdog website reported the claim, everyone wants to know if these Gaza-based reporters knew in advance about the attack and, more importantly, if they could have saved lives by alerting the world about it.  The question arises: Did the AP, CNN, the New York Times, and Reuters know about the Hamas terror attack in advance?  [...]

 

https://pjmedia.com/victoria-taft/2023/11/12/us-news-outlets-must-answer-if-they-knew-about-hamas-terror-attacks-on-israel-before-october-7-n4923834

[Boiler 45,445]

I do not think they are employees, freelancers, and I seriously doubt Hamas would give them advance notice, more likely a combination of opportunists and members of Hamas who also are photographers, part of their propaganda teams. There was film released of a Car Bob, IVIED?, released where they had overwatch, the Car was taken out by a tank, for the ill informed of course it works either way.

 

Everything I have seen so far suggests that there was general training but the specifics including the Go order went out in the early hours of the 7th.

[TBoneTX 45,251]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

members of Hamas who also are photographers

Interesting -- possibly so, given the photo of the photographer being kissed by the head terrorist.

[OriZ 3,157]

They, like many gazans, sympathized and identified with hamas. The material they filmed was alot of basically hamas propaganda (in addition to the head camera footage by the terrorists themselves) in the guise of "journalism". I don't think they knew way ahead because most hamas members didn't, but they definitely knew what they're about to film when they rode the same bikes and trucks as the terrorists, and they definitely had a good time filming it. To me, they are terrorists and if they were directly targeted by the IDF, I would not shed a tear 

Edited November 14, 2023 by OriZ

[TBoneTX 45,251]

1 hour ago, OriZ said:

they are terrorists and if they were directly targeted by the IDF, I would not shed a tear 

A retired colonel in the Israeli Air Force once told me, "Kill them!  A dead terrorist can rarely cause you future problems."