Israel Declares 'Readiness for War' After Hamas Launches Rocket Barrage, Infiltration

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No one can ever question Roger Kimball's scholarship.  This is a quick, punchy read.

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Who or what are 'the Palestinians?'

 

It's so cute when politicians like AOC and Rashida Tlaib, to say nothing of hysteric undergraduates and ill-informed lefties across the country, complain that Israel is an "apartheid state" that is illegitimately "occupying" the land West of the Jordan River [...]

 

https://thespectator.com/topic/palestinians-plo-yasser-arafat-soviets/

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7 hours ago, Boiler said:

A few days ago a BBC reporter who had been in Gaza and some of the tunnels mentioned a command post under the main Hospital. I can not imagine he was told that unless they wanted it out there. He also mentioned the tunnels into Egypt, described one as big enough to drive a Mercedes through. These do not operate without Egypt looking the other way.

 

Bin Laden was hiding in a house in Pakistan, somewhat different.

 

And my favourite Guardian columnist has of course up with the obvious. Hamas are just enforcing British Mandate Law.

 

 

He was killed in one, didn't spend his whole time there. And even when they thought they'd find him in a cave, no one thought to not even try 

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7 hours ago, Boiler said:

A little bit before my time, but I think it was up to 10 years, the embellishments came later.

Reminds me of the awful way they treated Alan Turing 

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46 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

No one can ever question Roger Kimball's scholarship.  This is a quick, punchy read.

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Who or what are 'the Palestinians?'

 

It's so cute when politicians like AOC and Rashida Tlaib, to say nothing of hysteric undergraduates and ill-informed lefties across the country, complain that Israel is an "apartheid state" that is illegitimately "occupying" the land West of the Jordan River [...]

 

https://thespectator.com/topic/palestinians-plo-yasser-arafat-soviets/

 

If there is anything the "gaza experiment" if you will, teaches us, it's that "two state solution" is not the solution. I'm saying that as someone (like most Israelis) who used to support it and now (again like most israelis) realizes it will never work. Israel left gaza, hamas could have turned it into Las Vegas of the Middle East, what did they do instead? 

 

So you've got the twats indoctrinated by the domestic terror org that is BLM claim there's still occupation cause there's a blockade etc. Why is there a blockade? Because hamas took over the strip shortly after Israel left it. Israel did try to provide better conditions and each time hamas started shooting rockets and it was back to square one. It was all based on good faith. If there is quiet then conditions will gradually improve and vice versa. There were almost 20k gazans working inside of Israel before this attack started. One of the first locations they attacked was the same passage/s that allowed workers out (and earning 12x what they do in gaza) and supplies in. Literally bit the hand and slaughtered everyone in there.

 

I know I'm preaching to the choir but I think this is an important point because even in my own family (from my wife's side) I've got people who think hamas is just trying to break out of the "open air prison" and that Israel is treating the "natives" so horribly, completely ignoring the fact that the indigenous people of the land are not Arabs but jews. Ignoring the fact Israel was doing more to better gazans life before this than any other country. If they wanted a good life, all they had to do was try to not kill all jews for a year or two.

 

There are two reasons why I think people blame Israel for this instead of just realizing it's dealing with basically isis, who wants to kill people no matter what, and has absolutely nothing to do with nonexistent occupation. The first, anti semitism, plain and simple. But not everyone is anti Semitic. The second reason is as I said above, they allow themselves to be indoctrinated against Israel by BLM and the likes. It's insane but it is what it is.

 

There is no way Israelis will ever let what happened in gaza over the last 20 years happen to the west bank; if that means there needs to be "apartheid" so be it. South Africa wasn't facing murderous isis and nazi like terrorists. Israel's utmost priority is to defend its citizens, jews AND arabs.

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32 minutes ago, OriZ said:

Reminds me of the awful way they treated Alan Turing 

Yes that bit is true 

 

If you are thinking of the film overall a lot of it was a long way from the truth

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3 hours ago, OriZ said:

anti semitism

It would go a long way toward clearing up the murkiness in people's minds if everyone simply called this what it is:  Jew-hatred.  It's not just the semitic Jews who are endangered.  And Arabs are semites, but almost no one hates them as a group, to this extent.

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Be sure to read the update at very bottom.

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A Rocket/Missile Hit a Hospital in Gaza and Both Sides are Blaming One Another (Update)

 

There was a big explosion at the site of a hospital in Gaza and now both sides of the conflict are blaming each other.  Hamas says it was an Israeli air strike.  The IDF claims it was a Hamas rocket which misfired.  Let's start with the Hamas side of this.  Note that the Gaza health ministry which is reporting death tolls in Gaza is run by Hamas.  [...]

 

https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2023/10/17/an-rocket-missile-hit-a-hospital-in-gaza-and-both-sides-are-blaming-one-another-n585565

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This speaks very well indeed of DeSantis.

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There's More to the DeSantis Airlift Story Than We Realized

 

Yesterday, we reported that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis cut through the red tape to rescue Floridians stranded in Israel.  What we didn't know is that he's also planning to pick up non-Floridian Americans, as well as those Joe Biden dumped in Greece.  [...]

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2023/10/17/desantis-will-send-planes-to-pick-up-americans-biden-dumped-in-greece-n1735720

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Can't begin to think what's happening to these people.

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Little Hope for Quick Release of Hamas Hostages

 

Hamas has confirmed that 250 hostages are being held by various factions of the terror group.  This adds a complicating factor to hostage negotiations, as the United States discovered in 1980 with the Iran hostages.

The 52 Americans captured in Iran were trophies of war, held by various factions of the Iranian revolution who used them for domestic political purposes.  They were status symbols that the revolutionaries gained notoriety and political capital in holding.

It's very likely that something similar will play out in Gaza — at least with the 50 hostages not being held by Hamas's main force.  This will make negotiations torturous and extremely dangerous.  [...]

 

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/rick-moran/2023/10/17/little-hope-for-quick-release-of-hamas-hostages-n1735642

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Here's what I think lends moral clarity to the demands for a "proportionate" response as demanded from Israel by so many.  Comments?

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Why It Is Our Spiritual Obligation to Completely Destroy Hamas 

 

[...] There is now a powerful media campaign to castigate Israel for defending herself from the evils demonstrated by Hamas.  This attempt to draw a moral equivalency between Hamsas and Israel needs to be repudiated and rejected in favor of an honest appraisal of Hamas' evils; of the ludicrousness of "proportionality" in the face of that evil; and of Israel's commitment to striving to always preserve lives…even of their enemies.

 

But recognizing the evil of Hamas and the fallacies of a "Palestine" country and people isn't enough in the struggle for a permanent peace in the region.  We need to determine what really must be done in the face of the horrors that Hamas performs in the name of "Palestine."  Education is meaningless unless it leads to action, and we must now determine how to act.  [...]

 

https://pjmedia.com/columns/rabbi-michael-barclay/2023/10/16/why-it-is-our-spiritual-obligation-to-completely-destroy-hamas-n1735523

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11 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

It would go a long way toward clearing up the murkiness in people's minds if everyone simply called this what it is:  Jew-hatred.  It's not just the semitic Jews who are endangered.  And Arabs are semites, but almost no one hates them as a group, to this extent.

Germans invented the word "anti-semitism", basically to make "Jew-hatred" sound better & more respectable/scientific/as a legitimate political philosophy....

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2 hours ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Germans invented the word "anti-semitism", basically to make "Jew-hatred" sound better & more respectable/scientific/as a legitimate political philosophy....

The Germans have been the standard, at least until recently...

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The German chancellor condemns a firebomb attack on a Berlin synagogue and vows protection for Jews

 

[...] Assailants threw two Molotov cocktails early Wednesday at the synagogue in the center of the German capital, police said, as antisemitic incidents in the country have been rising following the violent escalation in the Middle East.  [...]

 

https://apnews.com/article/germany-berlin-synagogue-antisemitism-fdd10f32f7d5efc6da973f00c9a8b030

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