Israel Declares 'Readiness for War' After Hamas Launches Rocket Barrage, Infiltration

[TBoneTX 45,267]

What do we think about the suggestions in the final 2 paragraphs?

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Cornell University Jewish Center Receives Death Threats

 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2023/10/30/cornell-university-jewish-center-receives-death-threats-n588646

[Boiler 45,468]

I was thinking how I thought things would go. Versus how they have.

 

I thought it would take at least a week before the usual suspects twisted the narrative, well just a few days.

 

I was expecting the ground attack to be sooner.

 

I did not expect the level of Antisemitism to be quite so obvious.

 

I did expect very poor coverage and nobody seems to answer the interesting questions. You spend 2 years planning this but run out of supplies, allegedly, in a few days.

 

Electricity at Hospitals running out every next day despite lots of photos of PV systems.

 

Why Israel has not taken out the desalination plants, or the power plant, I would have thought those would be worth a bomb.

 

Why Egypt does not seem a willing participant in opening up a corridor.

 

It never made much sense for Progressives to align with Religious Fundamentalists, still do not understand that. Nor do I understand why there has been so much Jewish support, I assume that will change but you never know!

 

I can not find it now but there was a clip of an Israeli tank taking a car out, being filmed, ticks a lot of boxes for being a VBIED but it does not matter, if it had succeeded Hamas win, picture of tank taking car out also Hamas win. Now if I was in that Tank I would not be taking any risks, after all does it matter? Damned whatever you do.

 

Mind you I would hope there will be a lot of people waking up, but I am really not convinced that will be the case.

[TBoneTX 45,267]

37 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I thought it would take at least a week before the usual suspects twisted the narrative, well just a few days.

It's too glorious to hold back on.  The clowns are showing an unbelievable combination of open glee and lack of self-restraint.

39 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I was expecting the ground attack to be sooner.

Maybe the IDF was getting its ducks in a row, coupled with some hesitation born of astonishment at the reaction noted above.

40 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I did not expect the level of Antisemitism to be quite so obvious.

The massacre was precisely the excuse that these clowns were looking for.

42 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I did expect very poor coverage and nobody seems to answer the interesting questions. You spend 2 years planning this but run out of supplies, allegedly, in a few days.

It's part of Hamas' P.R. strategy, which the media have readily fallen for.

43 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Electricity at Hospitals running out every next day despite lots of photos of PV systems.

Perhaps same as above.

43 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Why Israel has not taken out the desalination plants, or the power plant, I would have thought those would be worth a bomb.

Is there even a power plant, if Israel supplies the electricity?  Perhaps again sensitivity to world reaction.

44 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Why Egypt does not seem a willing participant in opening up a corridor.

As several cited authors have stated, Egypt despises Hamas and its supporters, too.

45 minutes ago, Boiler said:

It never made much sense for Progressives to align with Religious Fundamentalists, still do not understand that. Nor do I understand why there has been so much Jewish support, I assume that will change but you never know!

Progressives perhaps view things as purely political and of an oppressor/oppressed nature.  The Jews in support of it have Leftism, not Judaism, as their religion.

47 minutes ago, Boiler said:

there was a clip of an Israeli tank taking a car out

If it's the same incident, I read a story about it just tonight.  Will try to find it.

48 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I would hope there will be a lot of people waking up, but I am really not convinced that will be the case.

Jews worldwide are going to live in conscious fear for a very long time.

[TBoneTX 45,267]

This addresses itself to several of Boiler's observations, generally and specifically.

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I'm Struggling to Find My Empathy

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/10/30/im-struggling-to-find-my-empathy-n588565

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Israeli Security Forces Announce They Freed Soldier Held Hostage in Gaza in Overnight Operation

 

Finally, some good news coming out of the Middle East—Israel's security forces on Monday announced that they'd free a soldier who had been held hostage by Hamas since their October 7 terror attacks.  The Israeli Defense Forces said the soldier, Pvt. Ori Megidish, was rescued in an overnight information in Gaza, but they did not provide further details.  [...]

 

https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2023/10/30/israeli-security-forces-announce-they-freed-hostage-from-gaza-in-overnight-operation-n2165726

[TBoneTX 45,267]

Hmm.  Thoughts?

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How to Defeat Hamas Fast, Cheap and Easy

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/10/how_to_defeat_hamas_fast_cheap_and_easy.html

[Boiler 45,468]

I thought of that and then decided that Hamas must have well, and enormous amount of water, massive pumps and pipes all very vulnerable.

 

It would also likely impact the local water supply.

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Hezbollah:  We, ah, Need to Reduce the Numbers of Martyrs We're Producing

 

[...] Reuters reports that Hezbollah has lost so many soldiers already that they're beginning to talk about dialing down the martyrdom a bit [...]

 

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2023/10/31/hezbollah-we-ah-need-to-reduce-the-numbers-of-martyrs-were-producing-n588949

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Hamas chief offers up the blood of Gaza's women and children to keep his terrorists motivated

 

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2023/10/hamas_chief_offers_up_the_blood_of_gazas_women_and_children_to_keep_his_terrorists_motivated.html

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

On 10/29/2023 at 1:10 AM, OriZ said:

 

Well it won't be easy but the only path forward would be to eliminate all terror groups and get the Palestinian authority to reform their education system if they want to even negotiate anything ever again. That should be, and is (with recent israeli governments) a precondition. That's one of the main reasons there haven't been negotiations for so long - because they refuse. 

 

There have been plenty of examples where this is possible if they actually want to do it. Some other countries in the region that used to be very hostile have already started doing it, including Saudi. If they don't - then oh well. It won't advance their cause, and fighting will continue 

 

 

Annex, annex, annex, then force citizenship.

[OriZ 3,157]

4 hours ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Annex, annex, annex, then force citizenship.

 

Tbh I've never been a fan of forcing citizenship. Why would you want such a major change to your demography? You'll end up being a minority in a few decades 

 

21 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

 

Is there even a power plant, if Israel supplies the electricity?  Perhaps again sensitivity to world reaction.

 

Jews worldwide are going to live in conscious fear for a very long time.

 

There is a power plant but it only supplies a few hours worth a day (when it's working, rn it's out of fuel). Israel supplied the rest but not anymore. Important to mention that while they did plan it for a couple of years and do have stockpiles of fuel and other supplies for their own uses, they just don't care about the people in gaza so ofc didn't feel the need to make sure they have enough as well. I'm sure their thinking was Israel will just give in and supply it, or the world will.

 

Also about jews living in fear...I do think that there's a ton of anti semitism out there, but personally can't say I encounter it or live in fear of it. Might be because I'm in Saint johns County, FL which is 75% republican (also i dont really "look jewish", im not religious etc). I've long told people that if I could walk into a bar with a bunch of bds supporters and other progressives, or a bar with alt right folks I would feel alot safer going into the latter. I've had so many people raise their eyebrows at me for that. Maybe now they understand it better, who knows

Edited November 1, 2023 by OriZ

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

2 hours ago, OriZ said:

 

Tbh I've never been a fan of forcing citizenship. Why would you want such a major change to your demography? You'll end up being a minority in a few decades 

Because ultimately it's bad for us & bad for them to rule over them on a non-equal footing. So for both our sakes.

2 hours ago, OriZ said:

 

 

There is a power plant but it only supplies a few hours worth a day (when it's working, rn it's out of fuel). Israel supplied the rest but not anymore. Important to mention that while they did plan it for a couple of years and do have stockpiles of fuel and other supplies for their own uses, they just don't care about the people in gaza so ofc didn't feel the need to make sure they have enough as well. I'm sure their thinking was Israel will just give in and supply it, or the world will.

 

Also about jews living in fear...I do think that there's a ton of anti semitism out there, but personally can't say I encounter it or live in fear of it. Might be because I'm in Saint johns County, FL which is 75% republican (also i dont really "look jewish", im not religious etc). I've long told people that if I could walk into a bar with a bunch of bds supporters and other progressives, or a bar with alt right folks I would feel alot safer going into the latter. I've had so many people raise their eyebrows at me for that. Maybe now they understand it better, who knows

Yes, all these. My family lives in TX, also don't encounter it much but it exists. Not so long ago in Dallas Jews were kept in a hostage situation in a synagogue....

[OriZ 3,157]

16 hours ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Because ultimately it's bad for us & bad for them to rule over them on a non-equal footing. So for both our sakes.

Yes, all these. My family lives in TX, also don't encounter it much but it exists. Not so long ago in Dallas Jews were kept in a hostage situation in a synagogue....

 

Meh, I don't think that's the right solution. You'll end up either truly an apartheid state (right now people just like to claim it is, but it's not because Palestinians are not israelis), or you'll be a Muslim state run by sharia law. No third option.

 

I'm alot closer to Naftali Bennetts plan than anything else on this at this point

 

Also, I don't really go to the synagogue...but if I went into a specialty (kosher) store or bakery or something like that I'd probably be very aware of my surroundings. Can never be too safe 

Edited November 1, 2023 by OriZ

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

6 hours ago, OriZ said:

 

Meh, I don't think that's the right solution. You'll end up either truly an apartheid state (right now people just like to claim it is, but it's not because Palestinians are not israelis), or you'll be a Muslim state run by sharia law. No third option.

 

I'm alot closer to Naftali Bennetts plan than anything else on this at this point  What's that?

 

Also, I don't really go to the synagogue...but if I went into a specialty (kosher) store or bakery or something like that I'd probably be very aware of my surroundings. Can never be too safe 

 

[TBoneTX 45,267]

As discussed not long ago, and with specifics.

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Flood the Gaza Tunnels

 

The biggest problem confronting Israel in its war on Hamas is how to destroy the Gaza tunnel networks and the terrorist operations therein.  Bombing works—mostly—but there’s a better way.  Not only would it dramatically reduce Israeli military and Gazan civilian casualties, but it would effectively destroy the tunnel systems for the long term.  That solution is to flood the tunnels with seawater from the adjacent Mediterranean.  [...]

 

https://www.realcleardefense.com/articles/2023/11/01/flood_the_gaza_tunnels_989879.html