Israel Declares 'Readiness for War' After Hamas Launches Rocket Barrage, Infiltration

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

And yet many of the LGBT... Leftist crowd are supporting Hamas.  Go figure.  I was told Leftist were smart, I guess not.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/16/business/upenn-antisemitism-israel-huntsman/index.html

 

UPenn in crisis over antisemitism allegations: Jon Huntsman is the latest donor to stop giving, and a board member resigns

 

There are quite a few other stories of a similar nature, now of course the usual shaming tactics do not really work in this sort of situation, how do you call someone a NAZI etc when you are the one supporting such beliefs, and there is one thing above all others that they desire, money.

Edited October 17, 2023 by Boiler

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And here is another one:

 

‘Stunned and sickened.’ Wexner Foundation cuts ties with Harvard over ‘tiptoeing’ on Hamas

https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/16/business/wexner-harvard-hamas-israel-antisemitism/index.html

 

Dems may be seeing the same thing with the recent pronouncements of the Squad.

[OriZ 3,157]

11 hours ago, Boiler said:

I am sure if it was known where they are there would be a 2,000lb bomb heading their way. My experience suggests that the martyrs tend to be the low levels of the organisation and that few of the upper echelons tend to be of that persuasion.

 

Obviously Iran is heavily involved and they are providing a lot of the logistics and support. They are effectively immune too far away, too big.

 

Reminds me of the Yom Kippur war when the IDF was 100km from Cairo, lets say they took it, then what?

 

The only logical option I can think of is to clear Gaza, bulldoze everything, but I cannot see that happening.

 

 

Give it time. Also they could be under a hospital (that's usually where they hide) so they wouldn't be able to get to them till special forces go in during the ground operation. The US ended up finding saddam and bin laden, this is the same situation...doesn't matter how impossible it might seem right now, there should be resolve to not leave gaza before they're found and eliminated. 

 

 

[OriZ 3,157]

6 hours ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Right now, yes, we're getting less sirens than Tel Aviv & South Jerusalem, haven't had a siren for over a week. There are additional IDF troops staying in our village, too.

 

100% agree. I'm not on X but reddit, oy. Literally, today I read a comment that said "If someone is not condemning both Hamas & the IDF then they're extremely biased." I don't even know where to start!

People equating terrorist attack victims to civilian victims of the bombing of Gaza ("it's all murder") and don't misunderstand me, all CIVILIAN death is horrible but INTENT matters....

 

People saying "cease fire & negotiations should happen" and I ask them if the US should have negotiated with Al-Qaeda after 9/11 and they tell me Hamas isn't Al-Qaeda? Like, what???

 

I just get so discouraged sometimes.

 

Ha yeah, I wasn't referring to the sirens but you've got other concerns there. 

 

Yeah, to me if a person is "neutral" they're not really neutral, they're pro hamas. There's no place for neutrality here. Anyone who is against terrorism should be supporting Israel unequivocally in the removal of this threat before it truly becomes existential.

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5 minutes ago, OriZ said:

 

Give it time. Also they could be under a hospital (that's usually where they hide) so they wouldn't be able to get to them till special forces go in during the ground operation. The US ended up finding saddam and bin laden, this is the same situation...doesn't matter how impossible it might seem right now, there should be resolve to not leave gaza before they're found and eliminated. 

A few days ago a BBC reporter who had been in Gaza and some of the tunnels mentioned a command post under the main Hospital. I can not imagine he was told that unless they wanted it out there. He also mentioned the tunnels into Egypt, described one as big enough to drive a Mercedes through. These do not operate without Egypt looking the other way.

 

Bin Laden was hiding in a house in Pakistan, somewhat different.

 

And my favourite Guardian columnist has of course up with the obvious. Hamas are just enforcing British Mandate Law.

 

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

17 minutes ago, OriZ said:

 

Ha yeah, I wasn't referring to the sirens but you've got other concerns there. 

 

Yeah, to me if a person is "neutral" they're not really neutral, they're pro hamas. There's no place for neutrality here. Anyone who is against terrorism should be supporting Israel unequivocally in the removal of this threat before it truly becomes existential.

Yes, indeed on both fronts. The other concern and the main one here, obviously, is enemy infiltration but with the extra army presence I do feel very safe.

[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

30 minutes ago, OriZ said:

 

Give it time. Also they could be under a hospital (that's usually where they hide) so they wouldn't be able to get to them till special forces go in during the ground operation. The US ended up finding saddam and bin laden, this is the same situation...doesn't matter how impossible it might seem right now, there should be resolve to not leave gaza before they're found and eliminated. 

 

 

This!!! Anything else and we're simply waiting for a repeat of 7th October, God forbid!

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18 minutes ago, Boiler said:

A few days ago a BBC reporter who had been in Gaza and some of the tunnels mentioned a command post under the main Hospital. I can not imagine he was told that unless they wanted it out there. He also mentioned the tunnels into Egypt, described one as big enough to drive a Mercedes through. These do not operate without Egypt looking the other way.

 

Bin Laden was hiding in a house in Pakistan, somewhat different.

 

And my favourite Guardian columnist has of course up with the obvious. Hamas are just enforcing British Mandate Law.

 

Oh wow! That's...... hard to find words.

Did British Mandate law also prescribed death as punishment? I somewhat doubt it...

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4 minutes ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Oh wow! That's...... hard to find words.

Did British Mandate law also prescribed death as punishment? I somewhat doubt it...

A little bit before my time, but I think it was up to 10 years, the embellishments came later.

[Boiler 45,525]

Horrible interviewer but that sort of demonstrates the issue. Petraeus made excellent replies.

 

 

[TBoneTX 45,308]

12 hours ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

Literally, today I read a comment that said "If someone is not condemning both Hamas & the IDF then they're extremely biased." I don't even know where to start!

Texas sayings:

-- The bigger the mouth, the better it looks shut.

-- Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.

-- Some folks ain't got the brains to be hoss-thieves.

-- You can educate a fool, but you can't make him think.

12 hours ago, EM_Vandaveer said:

I just get so discouraged sometimes.

-- You can talk sense to a smart man but not to a fool.

-- A loud mouth and a shallow brain go well together.

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6 hours ago, OriZ said:

Anyone who is against terrorism should be supporting Israel unequivocally in the removal of this threat before it truly becomes existential.

Outlaws and martyrs are greatly improved by death.

[TBoneTX 45,308]

At least DeSantis is showing good sense.  Haley can take a long walk off a short pier.

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DeSantis Draws Red Line on Gaza Refugees, GOP Field Follows Suit

 

[...] DeSantis reiterated his red line on refugees during an interview with “Face the Nation,” telling Margaret Brennan of CBS that “those Gaza refugees, Palestinian Arabs, should go to Arab countries.  The U.S. should not be absorbing any of those.”  And he reiterated his warning that, while “not everyone is a member of Hamas,” the culture in Gaza is so “toxic” that welcoming large numbers of refugees “would increase antisemitism” and “anti-Americanism” in the United States.

 

Haley rejected that broad characterization during a CNN interview Sunday, telling Jake Tapper that a large portion of Palestinians bristle under Hamas in Gaza.  “There are so many of these people who want to be free from this terrorist rule.  They want to be free from all of that,” she said before adding that Americans have always been sympathetic to the idea “that you can separate civilians from terrorists.”  [...]

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/10/17/desantis_draws_red_line_on_gaza_refugees_gop_field_follows_suit__149912.html

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What are the other regional countries doing to help those non-Hamas supporters????

[TBoneTX 45,308]

This needs readin'.

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What I Saw When I Guarded the Border with Gaza

 

Jacob Katz is a 25-year-old former IDF soldier from Florida who returned to Israel this week.  Here, he tells of his time with the IDF from 2018 to 2019, where he patrolled the Gaza border at the same spot where Hamas terrorists bulldozed the fence and invaded Israel on October 7.  [...]

 

https://www.thefp.com/p/what-i-saw-when-i-guarded-the-gaza-border