US - Russia relations

[dmhweb 0]

Just came across this... Not sure what to make of it.

Sounds pretty bizarre!

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[russ 1]

Bizarre? Sounds like business as usual.

Try writing something critical of the Kremlin (in Russian - English is okay). See how long you live. Or try creating a broadcast TV station that isn't controlled by the Kremlin (gazprom media). Does anyone find it odd the most television in Russia is controlled by a gas company? That is owned by the government?

Counterfit money is fairly common as well - one reason many people won't take older US bills in Russia. The

North Koreans are probably the largest producers of it though.

Just came across this... Not sure what to make of it.

Sounds pretty bizarre!

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Another reason I cant wait to have Sasha out of that country. Ready for warmer vacation spots also!

[Blues Fairy 0]

What a perfect chain of logical conclusions. Five Russians walk in a store with counterfeit $100 while Putin visits = they are his security people = Putin is aware and involved = Russia is an enemy.

[mendeleev 68]

BlueFairy,

Thank you for your comment.

[gogal2020 0]

What a perfect chain of logical conclusions. Five Russians walk in a store with counterfeit $100 while Putin visits = they are his security people = Putin is aware and involved = Russia is an enemy.

LOL, their assumptions become facts, what a load of bullcrap.

[dmhweb 0]

What a perfect chain of logical conclusions. Five Russians walk in a store with counterfeit $100 while Putin visits = they are his security people = Putin is aware and involved = Russia is an enemy.

Yeah, That's why I called it bizarre...

But, the apparent backsliding is really troubling.

Notably, the murder of Alexander Litvinenko, a Russian dissident, in 2006 was announced as due to polonium poisoning [34] (see Alexander Litvinenko poisoning). According to Nick Priest, a radiation expert speaking on Sky News on December 2, Litvinenko was probably the first person ever to die of the acute α-radiation effects of polonium.

This stuff (polonium) is so rare and so toxic (it's 250 Billion times more toxic than cyanide) handling it is almost impossible and it can only be made by states with large nuclear programs. It also leaves a fairly obvious breadcrumb trail.

[russ 1]

This stuff (polonium) is so rare and so toxic (it's 250 Billion times more toxic than cyanide) handling it is almost impossible and it can only be made by states with large nuclear programs. It also leaves a fairly obvious breadcrumb trail.

Actually, you can still buy the stuff over the internet. It is useful in cloud chambers, calibrating equipment, etc.

Polonium is an alpha emitter, so you are only screwed if you inhale or ingest it. Touching it won't hurt you.

It is naturally occuring in Uranium ore and tobacco smoke, among other places. About 500 times rarer than radium. It is useful in large quntities for building a neutron source - the only reason to have large quantities of it is for a nuclear program.

The fact that so much of it was used to poison someone is kind of shocking. That much of it isn't cheap, to poison someone in such a way makes a political statement more than anything else. It would be like burning someone at the stake using $20,000,000 in hundred dollar bills as the fuel.

[groovlstk 0]

I've found that most of what passes for commentary on Russia from outlets like The Economist, WSJ, CNN, Time, etc. is alarmist Russophobic #######.

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[dmhweb 0]

Actually, you can still buy the stuff over the internet. It is useful in cloud chambers, calibrating equipment, etc.

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Amazing... But you'd need a state budget to buy enough to use as poison...

0.1 microcurie for $69 x 32,000 = over $2 million for a lethal dose (50ng) or something like that. These quantities are so small it would be very difficult and quite suspicious to assemble such a dose unless you have the power to make it (gather it).

[russ 1]

Well, neutron bombardmant of bismuth 209 is the easiest way to produce it. In this case, you just need access to even a research reactor. Most decent universities have one. Just about every country that has discovered the wheel or fire is probably capable of making it.

Since polonium can't be detected with gamma ray spectoscopy, perhaps it was believed that it wouldn't be discovered? (Remember, it wasn't detected very quickly...)

0.1 microcurie for $69 x 32,000 = over $2 million for a lethal dose (50ng) or something like that. These quantities are so small it would be very difficult and quite suspicious to assemble such a dose unless you have the power to make it (gather it).

[slim 1,525]

This is comedy!!! The fact that people are "surprised" how world politics work is simply amazing. Especially someone working at CNN. Just goes to show how far people will go to do a story other than Iraq or Gas prices or anything else messed up with America. "Let's find a scapegoat. We'll point the finger at them as if they're pointing the finger back at us. Dumb Americans will now think the Cold War is starting back up and they'll forget about Iraq and how expensive gas is."

I haven't watched the "news" in months. Surprisingly enough, when I do turn it on, I haven't missed anything.

As for the best source of current affairs in Russia..... ask your S/O.

Polonium poisoning? Much classier than a few bullets in a hallway, which hardly causes a headline. Either way, the game is played a certain way in Russia, and if you're not playing the way Putin is, the message is out there - you better start.

[russ 1]

Well, the diplomatic impact is a bit more serious. The brits are in the middle now, but it could easily be the Americans too.

What if it was anthrax instead of polonium? What if it happened in the states? It really is radiological terrorism, to call it anything else is lying to yourself. It was done to send a message, and to scare people.

Polonium poisoning? Much classier than a few bullets in a hallway, which hardly causes a headline. Either way, the game is played a certain way in Russia, and if you're not playing the way Putin is, the message is out there - you better start.

[slim 1,525]

What if it was anthrax instead of polonium? What if it happened in the states? It really is radiological terrorism, to call it anything else is lying to yourself. It was done to send a message, and to scare people.

And to keep the story in the media for as long as possible!

[Jason-Sasha 1]

Being a journalist in Russia is still a dangerous job. I think people of Russia are generally good folks with lives to live. But I know many Russians who are still pretty terrified of the government. It doesnt help when the government controls the media. How many journalists are missing in Russia? Too many. I really dont care for any world leaders, but Putin especially. He's a KGB leftover that's growing mold in the fridge. Still a very shady place, though it doesnt stop me from visiting my sweetheart. CNN is not my choice of news reporting, but tell me how many reporters are missing in America. I said IN America. The media is probably digging a bit too deep and reaching a bit too far, but there is truth in this clip. Russia is littered with counterfeit money and it doesnt surprise me that they would be the suspects of this fraud. What would a group of Russian men be doing in New Hampshire just before Putin's visit?? If you think its just coincidence, let me have a sip of that Kool-Aid.