Embracing Illegals

[Dan J 277]

If you don't like business using illegal immigrants for labor, you can vote with your wallet or start a business to serve the niche market. Though your choices are rather limited in that regard. But it is your choice to make.

But most people, even if they are against illegal aliens don't care enough to do that. And many will probably complain if they have to pay higher prices for the goods they buy. But that is their choice.

And there you are right back with this "higher prices" #######. It's a myth. It's nonsense. It's the propaganda that the profiteers of illegal labor want to feed this nation. And you're fcuking buying it. Wake up already.

When a business has higher costs is this case it would be labor, what do they do?

You're assuming that those that employ illegals = and presumably save costs - pass the savings on to you and me. You know what happens when you assume, don't you?

Of course not, but they would rather not take a bite out of their profits if they can past the cost to consumers.

If the savings aren't passed to the consumer, then there is a very small portion of the US population profiting from illegal labor. You and I get to foot the net $10,000,000,000.00 annual cost of illegal migration. It's a bad deal for everyday Americans and most Americans want out of that bad deal already.

Not really, if they have more money to spend, it generates business with other businesses. Its not going to stay under a mattress, unless thats what you do with your money.

Not all illegal aliens are poor and exploited like some are. They also contribute to the economy in what they buy. In turn, businesses grow, and more people benefit.

[smoke20 0]

THEN IF IT'S NOT RACE, (AND YOU'RE NOT ASKING FOR THEIR GC) HOW DO YOU KNOW IF SOMEONE IS AN ILLEGAL?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

no i don't do a cavity search or ask for a green card..but..as UT/big dog spelled out for you.

"Actually, unless the person is very old or disabled in some way to have the language requirement waived at naturalization, it does mean just that."

i use common sence! now why are you still trying to play that BS race card?

ahem

I'm the one who's wrong and brought the race card out.

right.

you're the one that tried to insinuate i was a racist. & i use common sence as my rational to determine who i think may be illeagal. but, i guess you don't think i'm capable of using deductive reasoning to form an opinion.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

I would suspect that the only embracing that most Americans want to do will illegals is when we say goodbye to them as we ship their arses out of here... Let's hope that day comes to pass...

[Scott & Lai 12]

Liberal debating tactics 101. If you can't counter an argument on its merits, you can always call your opponent a racist or a chauvanist or a fill-in-the-blank-o-phobe, and thereby justify (to yourself, at least) dismissing their arguments.

Edited August 1, 2007 by Scott & Lai

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

Not all illegal aliens are poor and exploited like some are. They also contribute to the economy in what they buy. In turn, businesses grow, and more people benefit.

i'm still waiting for that supposed benefit to appear.

[Sheriff Uling 3]

Not all illegal aliens are poor and exploited like some are. They also contribute to the economy in what they buy. In turn, businesses grow, and more people benefit.

i'm still waiting for that supposed benefit to appear.

I'm hoping those were hypothetical statements because all evidence to contrary leads one to conclude the exact opposite. Hmmm...

[Dan J 277]

Not all illegal aliens are poor and exploited like some are. They also contribute to the economy in what they buy. In turn, businesses grow, and more people benefit.

i'm still waiting for that supposed benefit to appear.

Is the company you work for growing? Well there you go.

[Jason-Sasha 1]

They certainly dont contribute enough to compromise our living if they were to leave. Ooohh gas might get a bit higher, oranges will cost more and we might actually have to work more. Oh my. Perhaps all the jobless Americans will finally get off their butts and work. I have no sympathy for illegals. They are criminals. So many people love to criticize America, but they're all trying to get in. Some even dying to get in. Wait...I have a tear forming.

[TinTin and Samby 11]

the amnesty bill failed- get over it!

The government is, as always, behind the curve. Once our economy is done doing what it does best, the economic integration of illegal immigrants with the rest of our economy will be fait accompli. It's inevitable and it's for the best.

best for who? companies exploiting illegals & politicians pandering for their votes.

Everybody. Remember, a rising tide lifts all boats

So, if we follow this premise, we should all abandon the journey we are on, and instead, collectively hire a fleet of low flying, radar evading airplanes to ship our loved ones here asap. No need to worry about fee increasses, debate what is and is not adequate documentation, discuss the merits of Carrying or not Carrying your CG, etc, etc. Heck, we should all receive a Presidential Award for contributing to the "rising tide" that is (suppossedly) floating our collective economy!

That is, of course, unless intellgent people refuse to beleive all the propaganda that somehow the net impact of deporting all illegally present persons would cause anything more than a mild ripple in the long run economic state of the US.

Warm Regards,

Samby

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

You and I get to foot the net $10,000,000,000.00 annual cost of illegal migration. It's a bad deal for everyday Americans and most Americans want out of that bad deal already.

Not all illegal aliens are poor and exploited like some are. They also contribute to the economy in what they buy. In turn, businesses grow, and more people benefit.

Do you know what net cost means?

[Ban Hammer 13,282]

Not all illegal aliens are poor and exploited like some are. They also contribute to the economy in what they buy. In turn, businesses grow, and more people benefit.

i'm still waiting for that supposed benefit to appear.

Is the company you work for growing? Well there you go.

yes....it's one of the top 5 defense contractors in the usa

so you think illegals are necessary for growth eh?

[Sinergy 3]

Is all of this really worth arguing about?

and liz_legend 'n Ol you really need to calm down. Dont get so upset. its a forum, you can always get up, walk away and go do something else other than argue with anyone until your THAT upset.

Edited August 1, 2007 by Ionescu

[mybackpages 0]

NM already stated very nicely

Edited August 1, 2007 by mybackpages

[SteveLaura 0]

npr- who?

Ok, this was way back there, but, really, you don't know NPR? Blimey. It's the only thing I listen to.

NPR on Wikipedia

http://www.npr.org/

OK,

[almaty 19]

i was almost late for work today..i am sure there were allot of illegals on the highway blocking my way...

also, the line at the store was longer than usual...maybe, need more checkers or maybe, some day working illegals got paid...