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Filed: AOS (pnd) Country: Russia
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Posted (edited)
On 12/7/2023 at 1:00 AM, BenNomad said:

The only exchange operating in Russia that supports USDC for P2P transactions seems to be ByBit. Am I missing something? I registered on HTX (Huobi) - no USDC listed for P2P. Same thing with CommEx. I couldn't find USDC on Garantex either. USDT seems to be widely supported though.

 

Also, the only mutually available network for transferring USDC to ByBit or HTX is Ethereum. Solana network is not available. As far as I could tell, there is no zero-fee transfer option for USDC, but the fee using the Ethereum network at the time I checked was around $5. And that's a flat fee, not a percent of the transfer amount. 

 

 

 

After you receive USDC on HTX or Bybit - just convert it to USDT (it's basically free there) and then use USDT P2P to transfer to Russian card.

Don't convert anything on Coinbase - fees are insane. Use Coinbase only to buy USDC from US checking account and send it. You won't be able to send USDT through Solana on Coinbase, only USDC.

Edited by spysee
Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Russia
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Expobank, one of the banks we have used for Wire transfers, is now sanctioned by the USA and off-limits.

5-15-2002 Met, by chance, while I traveled on business

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Filed: IR-5 Country: Russia
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Posted
17 minutes ago, antalia said:

Hi guys, this is the freshest topic I found on sending money to Russia. Are there still ways to wire transfer that you could advise? Or is it only crypto at the moment?

Nothing new from me. Ruble doesn't actually transfer, it's just swapped with other exchangers, be it for crypto or U.S. dollar deposits. 

 

More recently I've been fighting with ways of getting around the ongoing U.S. Mail suspension on even letter deliveries to Russia, but that's off-topic here so please don't reply on that.

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Filed: IR-5 Country: Russia
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Posted
31 minutes ago, zimothy said:

I've been able to send Euros from my Schwab brokerage account (converted from USD to avoid the ridiculous fee) to my wife's Raiffeisenbank account. 

 

Does that also work in the opposite direction?  Could she send euros from Raiffeisenbank to Schwab?  That's what we're actually doing.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Chris Parker said:

 

Does that also work in the opposite direction?  Could she send euros from Raiffeisenbank to Schwab?  That's what we're actually doing.

 

Honestly, I'm not sure because we haven't tried doing it that way. Sorry!

  • 4 weeks later...
Filed: IR-5 Timeline
Posted

Has anyone done any recent transfers from Russia to USA?

 

I know previously this was discussed as means to transfer for a family member.

We have a completely different situation - person is moving to US on IR5 visa. How in the world do they take their assets with them? Sell an apartment, then what?

Filed: IR-5 Country: Russia
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Posted

Apartment was retained and is being rented out. Others there have a Power of Attorney to do this and collect the money to send to us.  Eventually apartment will be sold through them as well.

 

Rent and state pension payments are thus the monthly remittances that we are now transferring from Russia to USA. This working via counterparty swap exchanges, either with another local family that we know which occasionally needs to send money the opposite direction, or most recently via the cryptocurrency exchange's P2P marketplace and a wallet transfer on the blockchain.

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Filed: IR-5 Timeline
Posted (edited)
On 3/18/2024 at 10:38 PM, Chris Parker said:

Apartment was retained and is being rented out. Others there have a Power of Attorney to do this and collect the money to send to us.  Eventually apartment will be sold through them as well.

 

Rent and state pension payments are thus the monthly remittances that we are now transferring from Russia to USA. This working via counterparty swap exchanges, either with another local family that we know which occasionally needs to send money the opposite direction, or most recently via the cryptocurrency exchange's P2P marketplace and a wallet transfer on the blockchain.

Chris,

 

We had exactly the same idea for transfers, just use crypto.

While transfer itself is not a problem, it also seems to contradict current Russian law (I don't claim to know all the nuances but hear me out).

 

Effective 2022 or so, any Russian citizen now has to report purchase of investment assets (which crypto is considered to be). With an intent that these funds at some point are coming back to Russia.

So when you transfer say a payment from a plastic debit card or even wire transfer to an exchange, that transaction is reported by the exchange (so long it is regulated in/by Russia), but even if not, any operating bank will also report such transaction to any regulated exchange as such (investment, etc). It is also not currently possible to buy foreign assets my understanding, which means you can only use regulated exchanges, who do not allow foreign assets.

While it is technically possible to do so, whoever the depositing side from Russia is - that entity/person now is subject to prosecution, up to felony with no right to leave the country. I imagine in small transactions it's not relevant, or until someone cares. But technically, you can end up being stuck permanently or worse jeopardizing whoever is aiding with outbound transfer if they do not understand consequences.

 

This is just an observation, which could be incorrect. If so - let me know.

Did you all seek legal help to determine whether crypto transfers can be structured as such that keeps them legal within Russian jurisdiction?

Edited by Kruger876
Filed: IR-5 Country: Russia
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Posted (edited)

This is likely one reason why the only way to transfer money to/from the crypto exchanges is via P2P in one form or another.  The rubles never actually leave Russia, they are just transferred between random people within Russia.

 

Russian law is very nuanced. This is a whole different topic. You are right to bring this up as a disclaimer, however, as what the law there actually means, when it is applied, to whom, and what the penalties are can vary from person to person and official to official. Nothing is ever black-and-white or crystal clear, there is always a murkiness. This is why corruption festers throughout the country.

 

Another legal consideration with sending money out Russia that I should mention, is the Russian National Bank has repeatedly issued temporary limits on sending rubles abroad, in order to help maintain the currency's value. Small amounts for personal reasons like I mentioned aren't going to hit that limit, but  something like selling an apartment likely would, if the limitation applies to personal transactions and not just businesses.

 

 

Edited by Chris Parker

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  • 4 months later...
Filed: Other Timeline
Posted

Thank you all for the valuable information. 
 

my relative in Russia plans to send me funds in the USA. 
 

can you please help with steps to do it if we do USDC route i.e. which apps (coinbase, binance etc) we both need to install and steps to do from rubles to USDC to receiving those in the USA and converting to USD. 

Filed: IR-5 Country: Russia
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Posted
44 minutes ago, quistarrok said:

can you please help with steps to do it if we do USDC route i.e. which apps (coinbase, binance etc) we both need to install and steps to do from rubles to USDC to receiving those in the USA and converting to USD. 

 

On the Russia side, we've been using bitget.com's P2P exchange, which has worked very well.  The exchange is always Ruble <-> USDT.  There are a then a variety of ways to get USDT to/from USA, including another P2P exchange using Zelle, etc. (though I haven't personally tried that one) or transferring the crypto to a US-based exchange like Coinbase.

 

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07/18/07 I-130 approved!

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NVC [73 Days] (+23 days transiting) ** using James' NVC Shortcuts 2.0 **

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08/20/07 DS-3032 & I-864 fee bill generated

08/23/07 DS-3032 delivered to NVC

08/23/07 I-864 payt delivered to St. Louis

08/27/07 IV fee bill generated

08/28/07 I-864 payt processed

09/03/07 I-864 package generated

09/08/07 IV fee bill received & payt sent

09/11/07 IV payt delivered to St. Louis

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09/17/07 IV payt processed

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09/25/07 I-864 RFE issued

10/01/07 I-864 RFE & DS-230 delivered to NVC

10/04/07 I-864 RFE & DS-230 entered onto case

10/22/07 Case complete at NVC!

12/10/07 NVC schedules the interview, finally!

12/17/07 Case left NVC

Embassy (Moscow)

12/20/07 Medical exam

01/10/08 Interview APPROVED!

01/15/08 Visa rcvd!

01/26/08 Entered USA

02/04/08 SSN card rcvd (from DS-230 appl./EAE)

02/16,21,25/08 OS155A msg. from TSC

02/28/08 PR card rcvd!

Filed: Other Timeline
Posted
8 hours ago, Chris Parker said:

 

On the Russia side, we've been using bitget.com's P2P exchange, which has worked very well.  The exchange is always Ruble <-> USDT.  There are a then a variety of ways to get USDT to/from USA, including another P2P exchange using Zelle, etc. (though I haven't personally tried that one) or transferring the crypto to a US-based exchange like Coinbase.

 

Thank you very much. What are the tax implications if happen to know for these crypto transactions in the USA and where is a best place to exchange usdt to usd when receive on USA side ie is there a margin markup for conversion at different places? I am quite behind with crypto knowledge. 

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