Paid Internship (J-1) vs Student Visa after F-1 denial

[Mixel96 8]

Hi,

 

I am from Germany and had two F-1 visa denials (214b) in the past. The reason for that was a refused admission, trying to enter the U.S. as a tourist on ESTA. I gave the officer at the airport misleading answers. Hence, they refused my admission.

 

Some time has passed. Now I am ready to pursue another attempt. I have been working for a global company here in Germany and besides applied for internships in the U.S. I got accepted for one internship so far. However, it is an unpaid position. I am still trying to find a paid one (if anyone has some advice on where to search as an international, feel free to comment on that). 

 

In general, I want to know if you think an J-1 Internship has a higher likelihood of approval for a visa in my specific case, compared to a F-1 student visa.

 

I am looking forward to your insights!

Mike

[Boiler 45,467]

Were you charged with Misrepresentation?

[PaulaCJohnny 713]

What year and month was the last time that you had you visa denied?

[SalishSea 17,818]

59 minutes ago, Mixel96 said:

Hi,

 

I am from Germany and had two F-1 visa denials (214b) in the past. The reason for that was a refused admission, trying to enter the U.S. as a tourist on ESTA. I gave the officer at the airport misleading answers. Hence, they refused my admission.

 

Some time has passed. Now I am ready to pursue another attempt. I have been working for a global company here in Germany and besides applied for internships in the U.S. I got accepted for one internship so far. However, it is an unpaid position. I am still trying to find a paid one (if anyone has some advice on where to search as an international, feel free to comment on that). 

 

In general, I want to know if you think an J-1 Internship has a higher likelihood of approval for a visa in my specific case, compared to a F-1 student visa.

 

I am looking forward to your insights!

Mike

I don’t see any type of nonimmigrant visa happening for you anytime soon.

 

Why are you so desperate to get to the United States?

[carmel34 3,621]

16 hours ago, Mixel96 said:

In general, I want to know if you think an J-1 Internship has a higher likelihood of approval for a visa in my specific case, compared to a F-1 student visa.

 

I am looking forward to your insights!

Do you still have a USC girlfriend?  If so, that's a strong tie to the US and will be a big hurdle for you to get any kind of non-immigrant visa, on top of the previous two denials.  You got 11 pages of advice about your situation last year:

 

 

Edited August 30, 2023 by carmel34

[Mixel96 8]

Thank you for your replies so far!

 

16 hours ago, Boiler said:

Were you charged with Misrepresentation?

No, I was not. 

 

16 hours ago, PaulaCJohnny said:

What year and month was the last time that you had you visa denied?

last year in July. 

 

16 hours ago, SalishSea said:

I don’t see any type of nonimmigrant visa happening for you anytime soon.

 

Why are you so desperate to get to the United States?

I had a good time during my semester abroad and already decided back then that I want to come back for studies or some professional experience.

 

50 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

Do you still have a USC girlfriend?  If so, that's a strong tie to the US and will be a big hurdle for you to get any kind of non-immigrant visa, on top of the previous two denials.  You got 11 pages of advice about your situation last year

 

No, I do not have my girlfriend anymore. I truly believe my ties to Germany have to be strong enough anyways. I have been living here for over 24 years now. All of my close family lives within 10 minutes from me. All my social life is here. I am playing soccer in a clubs team since I am 4 years old. Now for over a year I am working a job here in strategic marketing. However, I want to get more international experience (right now preferably with an internship) in the U.S., not somewhere in Europe.

Currently my question here is only this one: Do you guys think a J1 visa for a paid internship is a better chance than the F-1 visa where I had my denials?

 

I appreciate the time you take out of your day to read and reply to my posts on here. Thank you!

[jan22 3,052]

A J-1 has no more likelihood of being approved than an F-1.

 

There are relatively few paid internships available in the US.  Odds are against you receiving one of them from an entity that also has standing to issue the DS-2019.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

21 hours ago, Mixel96 said:

In general, I want to know if you think an J-1 Internship has a higher likelihood of approval for a visa in my specific case, compared to a F-1 student visa.

With two denials, you have an uphill battle in front of you. Good luck.

[Boiler 45,467]

Just clicked we have been here before, there is a lot of back story.

2 minutes ago, Rocio0010 said:

With two denials, you have an uphill battle in front of you. Good luck.

Hey first on!  Looking good.

[Rocio0010 5,579]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Just clicked we have been here before, there is a lot of back story.

And an obsession to make it to the US!

[Mixel96 8]

On 8/30/2023 at 7:31 PM, Rocio0010 said:

And an obsession to make it to the US!

I don't really know what is wrong with having the desire to come to the U.S. on a non-immigrant visa. I did nothing wrong on my previous J-1 stay and I do not have any wrong intentions. I also would be adding to your country's economy with an internship or with the masters program I got denied for..

[Rocio0010 5,579]

1 hour ago, Mixel96 said:

I don't really know what is wrong with having the desire to come to the U.S. on a non-immigrant visa. I did nothing wrong on my previous J-1 stay and I do not have any wrong intentions. I also would be adding to your country's economy with an internship or with the masters program I got denied for..

You know what’s wrong? What’s wrong is trying to come on an ESTA with the intention to stay and misrepresenting yourself.

 

Thank you, but Argentina already has

enough on its plate and I don’t think that someone that lies to get a benefit is what we need right now!

[Boiler 45,467]

1 minute ago, Rocio0010 said:

You know what’s wrong? What’s wrong is trying to come on an ESTA with the intention to stay and misrepresenting yourself.

 

Thank you, but Argentina already has

enough on its plate and I don’t think that someone that lies to get a benefit is what we need right now!

One for Jim?

[Rocio0010 5,579]

1 hour ago, Mixel96 said:

I did nothing wrong on my previous J-1 stay

You might not have done anything wrong during your stay, but you did something wrong when you tried to enter on an ESTA. 

 

1 hour ago, Mixel96 said:

and I do not have any wrong intentions

Your record says otherwise.

 

Anyhow, I have nothing else fruitful to add to this post, so good luck in your future 

[Mixel96 8]

On 8/30/2023 at 3:00 PM, jan22 said:

A J-1 has no more likelihood of being approved than an F-1.

 

There are relatively few paid internships available in the US.  Odds are against you receiving one of them from an entity that also has standing to issue the DS-2019.

Okay, thank you

On 8/30/2023 at 7:31 PM, Rocio0010 said:

And an obsession to make it to the US!

I am very passionate about gaining more experience (Professional/academic) in the States after my successful semester abroad, it is my goal so I want to explore what might be possible. 

On 9/4/2023 at 5:26 PM, Rocio0010 said:

You know what’s wrong? What’s wrong is trying to come on an ESTA with the intention to stay and misrepresenting yourself.

 

Thank you, but Argentina already has

enough on its plate and I don’t think that someone that lies to get a benefit is what we need right now!

Sorry, but what do I have to do with Argentina?

I did not have the intention to stay when I came on ESTA. I had my returning flight to Germany booked already and overstaying was never on my mind. There is even proof for that in the conversations with my girlfriend on WhatsApp, which did not get acknowledged back then. 
They managed to get misleading statements from me when asking about my future. I mentioned a potential future internship or a masters degree in the US. That's when it went downhill. I could have never imagined back then that my statements were leading to a refused admission as it was just so obvious for me, that for working, studying or whatever I would need to have the according visa. In hindsight you're always smarter.