Joint/Co- Sponsor; Affidavit/Declaration?? (Merged)

[Jalan 1]

Hello All,

   I am hoping to support my Ukrainian wife via the U4U program but have some questions/concerns with the Declaration of Support.  The simple declaration doesn't capture my ability or dollar amounts.

   I collect a monthly benefit which falls below the stated requirement, however, I live in a family owned house without any cost to me.

   She works in Portugal currently(displaced by the war) where we are legally married and I also have residency. (With goal of relocating to the US(my permanent address).  If deposits into a joint account, can we use any of that income?

   I'm not sure if I could get a Co-sponser, but if so, would they only commit to the amount I am short or also to the complete requirement?

  Lastly, what is the level of proof required, what I mean is, can I provide a document stating the value of my housing arrangement and add this to the monthly income?  

Many Thanks.  Apologies for the lengthy question.

 

[Boiler 45,733]

The most important thing about the I 134 is that it is not legally enforceable. So it really means nothing.

 

That might help get somebody else clearly approvable on board.

 

The I 134a is weirdly worded, very unspecific, and I have not seen any feedback on marginal cases.

 

Big plus is that it is free so nothing at risk. Throw everything in and see.

 

 

[Jalan 1]

8 hours ago, Boiler said:

The most important thing about the I 134 is that it is not legally enforceable. So it really means nothing.

 

That might help get somebody else clearly approvable on board.

 

The I 134a is weirdly worded, very unspecific, and I have not seen any feedback on marginal cases.

 

Big plus is that it is free so nothing at risk. Throw everything in and see.

 

 

THANKS!!!

   "Not legally binding", very interesting.  I wonder if I could find any cases where the beneficiary challenged the sponsor for support?

   This is great advice, put it all in and see what happens.  I also just realized I think I qualify for 1 but not 2(our kid) and it's ok to have 2 separate sponsors(think it's ok?).

 

I really appreciate your replies.  I truly am thankful.  I'm an educated guy but am lost in this sea of forms, rules, money, etc. and you've really shined a light.  I'm sure eventually I'll have more, but now, I'm grateful.

[Boiler 45,733]

You can find plenty of I 864 cases, Lawyers even advertising their services. https://www.soundimmigration.com/

 

You will see they do not mention the I 134. On here I have seen maybe 2 cases? involving messy divorces where the beneficiary has tried to bring in the I 134, well thrown the kitchen sink at it and have been told it is not enforceable and their Lawyer needs to respond accordingly.

[millefleur 5,047]

7 hours ago, Jalan said:

THANKS!!!

   "Not legally binding", very interesting.  I wonder if I could find any cases where the beneficiary challenged the sponsor for support?

 

In divorce court or other such areas, maybe it could be used as some kind of leverage, since it implies a "moral obligation" and could make you look bad if you refuse to uphold it? But as far as USCIS and immigration is concerned, not enforceable. 

[Jalan 1]

Hello All,

   I hope to file for my wife and step daughter but have concerns regarding the support documents.  I'm not sure how to word my question but I'll try:

   Numbers just for example:  

If it's required to have $1000/mo and I only collect $800, will my co sponsor be required to prove the full $1000 or only the $200 I am short?

   I'm other words, can the two together total the requirement to successfully sponsor?

   It looks like the requirements for U4U are a bit more relaxed and we'll probably do that, but my question applies either way.

 

I truly appreciate any thoughts.  I'm struggling to educate myself and these forms have been amazing.  Thank you

[Crazy Cat 41,984]

For an I-864, a joint sponsor must meet the full financial qualifications as a primary sponsor.  The I-864 instructions, page 12, state this:

Form I-864, Affidavit of Support Under Section 213A of the INA (uscis.gov)

 

Edited August 23, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[JeanneAdil 6,581]

its in this statement

A joint sponsor must be able to meet the income requirements for all the persons he or she is sponsoring without combining resources with the petitioning sponsor or a second joint sponsor. page 13

[powerpuff 6,744]

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