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Fat Shaming or Body Positivity?

 

 

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Doesn't this song celebrate this body type much like Lizzo?

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3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Doesn't this song celebrate this body type much like Lizzo?

I remember Queen from my youth and when I saw this story I could not think of the song, anyway just the opening had me humming, they lyrics and the title probably never really dawned on me.

 

To be fair to Queen when they were around the size of Lizzo was not something they could reasonably be expected to visualise.

 

I am also pretty sure if I went through the lyrics of the Groups I followed, went to Concerts, bought their Albums, not very much would pass the current Progressive standards. 

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You know I thought people were all about 'protecting' kids by removing what they can see and hear. This song was removed off of a kid's streaming music site for the 'clean' version of a Queen album uploaded there. Not because it's about 'fat girls' but because of the rest of the lyrical content which is sexual in nature.

 

3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Doesn't this song celebrate this body type much like Lizzo?

Yes sure, as in after having some kind of inappropriate encounter with his fat nanny called a word that's a euphemism that big girls really turn the singer on and won't they take him home to bed. So it's great that big girls turn Brian May on. But is it an appropriate song for kids? Well I didn't have a problem with it and many other songs as an innocent kid, but nowadays people need smelling salts. It is definitely an innuendo-y song. There's many Queen songs like that. I mean...do people actually take a look at lyrics anymore? I wonder if Bicycle Race is on the album, because oh boy those kids will have no idea what that's all about.

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1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

You know I thought people were all about 'protecting' kids by removing what they can see and hear. This song was removed off of a kid's streaming music site for the 'clean' version of a Queen album uploaded there. Not because it's about 'fat girls' but because of the rest of the lyrical content which is sexual in nature.

 

Yes sure, as in after having some kind of inappropriate encounter with his fat nanny called a word that's a euphemism that big girls really turn the singer on and won't they take him home to bed. But is it an appropriate song for kids? Well I didn't have a problem with it and many other songs as an innocent kid, but nowadays people need smelling salts. It is definitely an innuendo-y song. There's many Queen songs like that. I mean...do people actually take a look at lyrics anymore? I wonder if Bicycle Race is on the album, because oh boy those kids will have no idea what that's all about.

 

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Constance Mary Whitehouse CBE (née Hutcheson; 13 June 1910 – 23 November 2001)[2] was a British teacher and conservative activist. She campaigned against social liberalism and the mainstream British media, both of which she accused of encouraging a more permissive society. She was the founder and first president of the National Viewers' and Listeners' Association, through which she led a longstanding campaign against the BBC. A hard-line social conservative, she was termed a reactionary by her socially liberal opponents. Her motivation derived from her Christian beliefs, her aversion to the rapid social and political changes in British society of the 1960s, and her work as a teacher of sex education.

 

I also remember her, and the lady above is basically a reincarnation, but sort of on the other end of the political scale, it is very confusing. 

 

The lyrics here are nothing compared to some stuff, I give you WAP for example, if that is the hill you want to fight on well you have lost.

 

I am more interested in how things have flipped.

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4 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

You know I thought people were all about 'protecting' kids by removing what they can see and hear. This song was removed off of a kid's streaming music site for the 'clean' version of a Queen album uploaded there. Not because it's about 'fat girls' but because of the rest of the lyrical content which is sexual in nature.

 

Yes sure, as in after having some kind of inappropriate encounter with his fat nanny called a word that's a euphemism that big girls really turn the singer on and won't they take him home to bed. But is it an appropriate song for kids? Well I didn't have a problem with it and many other songs as an innocent kid, but nowadays people need smelling salts. It is definitely an innuendo-y song. There's many Queen songs like that. I mean...do people actually take a look at lyrics anymore? I wonder if Bicycle Race is on the album, because oh boy those kids will have no idea what that's all about.

It seems only some people today need smelling salts, and those tend to be on the Left who need to celebrate their wokiness, you know, "progress".  Whatever, I am waiting for these folks to go after the rappers based on some of their lyrics.  Although not a big rap fan, I am fine with them practicing their art.

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7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Whitehouse

 

 

I also remember her, and the lady above is basically a reincarnation, but sort of on the other end of the political scale, it is very confusing. 

 

The lyrics here are nothing compared to some stuff, I give you WAP for example, if that is the hill you want to fight on well you have lost.

 

I am more interested in how things have flipped.

Let's not forget Tipper Gore, a Leftist Democrat that also fought hard for more censorship.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Whitehouse

 

 

I also remember her, and the lady above is basically a reincarnation, but sort of on the other end of the political scale, it is very confusing. 

 

The lyrics here are nothing compared to some stuff, I give you WAP for example, if that is the hill you want to fight on well you have lost.

 

I am more interested in how things have flipped.

I can't imagine there is room for WAP or many Lizzo songs on that particular children's streaming music site you know? The 80s called and want those hearings where congress yelled at lyricists for the songs we all know and adore today, and Dee Snider and Frank Zappa ripped them to shreds. I believe Quiet Riot's cover of "Come (not sure the actual word is VJ friendly) on Feel the Noize" was discussed there, which still is an absolute banger of a tune as well as the 'Filthy 15' - all classic and beloved tunes today. Not sure if Queen was discussed, but I recall at those times there were tons of parents heaping music onto bonfires and bulldozers in a moral panic.

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2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

It seems only some people today need smelling salts, and those tend to be on the Left who need to celebrate their wokiness, you know, "progress".  Whatever, I am waiting for these folks to go after the rappers based on some of their lyrics.  Although not a big rap fan, I am fine with them practicing their art.

Freddie Mercury was LGBT before there was LGBT, I am surprised that was not mentioned. But yes you are right there is a hierarchy and no way would she? be allowed to punch up that far.

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8 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

It seems only some people today need smelling salts, and those tend to be on the Left who need to celebrate their wokiness, you know, "progress".  Whatever, I am waiting for these folks to go after the rappers based on some of their lyrics.  Although not a big rap fan, I am fine with them practicing their art.

Do you believe the lyrics of Fat Bottomed Girls are appropriate for children, or not? I don't believe many of the rap songs you are thinking of would be allowed on that particular streaming website either. What is fine for you, won't be fine for other parent's children's precious ears. These days there are a lot of content being removed to 'protect kids'. How is this that different?

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I can't imagine there is room for WAP or many Lizzo songs on that particular children's streaming music site you know? The 80s called and want those hearings where congress yelled at lyricists for the songs we all know and adore today, and Dee Snider and Frank Zappa ripped them to shreds. I believe Quiet Riot's cover of "Come (not sure the actual word is VJ friendly) on Feel the Noize" was discussed there, which still is an absolute banger of a tune as well as the 'Filthy 15' - all classic and beloved tunes today. Not sure if Queen was discussed, but I recall at those times there were tons of parents heaping music onto bonfires and bulldozers in a moral panic.

She was objecting to the song from the perspective of a Plus Sized Woman, the children streaming service was how it came to attention.

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She was objecting to the song from the perspective of a Plus Sized Woman, the children streaming service was how it came to attention.

Her objection doesn't mean that's the reason why the song was removed which has been repeated in numerous articles now. I have also seen Ted Cruz comment on 'canceling Queen' without actually knowing what he is talking about. A person can make up whatever thoughts about this song and the reasons for it's removal all they want. Doesn't make it true.

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Do you believe the lyrics of Fat Bottomed Girls are appropriate for children, or not? I don't believe many of the rap songs you are thinking of would be allowed on that particular streaming website either. What is fine for you, won't be fine for other parent's children's precious ears. These days there are a lot of content being removed to 'protect kids'. How is this that different?

Not really my choice, individual parents should decide, and not the nanny state.  As to parents getting their kids a smart speaker, well, I have different views on that whole thing.

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Do you believe the lyrics of Fat Bottomed Girls are appropriate for children, or not? I don't believe many of the rap songs you are thinking of would be allowed on that particular streaming website either. What is fine for you, won't be fine for other parent's children's precious ears. These days there are a lot of content being removed to 'protect kids'. How is this that different?

 

I have zero issue with Queen, I was around when it came out, I do not remember any issues? Queen regularly featured on TOTP etc.

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