Drive to Canada with certificate, fly with EU passport, and back?

[Jon & Ygritte 178]

Is it possible to after the oath drive to Canada with the certificate of naturalization and then fly to Europe with your EU passport? And then fly back with your EU passport and return from Canada to the US with your certificate of naturalization? Or would the US border question that when you return to the US driving from Canada? (Just trying to find out my options if I'm not able to get my passport before my upcoming planned trip.)

[Timona 4,208]

Why such a complicated journey? Just get an emergency PP appointment with your travel date

[Jon & Ygritte 178]

8 minutes ago, Timona said:

Why such a complicated journey? Just get an emergency PP appointment with your travel date

I'm planning that. Just wondering if there are any other options if I don't manage to get an urgent appointment at the passport agency.

[Mike E 11,741]

33 minutes ago, Jon & Ygritte said:

Is it possible to after the oath drive to Canada with the certificate of naturalization

Why would you not present your EU passport to CBSA?

 

33 minutes ago, Jon & Ygritte said:

and then fly to Europe with your EU passport?

Yes. It is your right. 

33 minutes ago, Jon & Ygritte said:

 

And then fly back with your EU passport

If you have an eTA.

33 minutes ago, Jon & Ygritte said:

and return from Canada to the US with your certificate of naturalization? 

By land yes. A photo copy of your naturalization certificate works too. This way your naturalization certificate can go to work on your passport while you are gone. 

 

16 minutes ago, Timona said:

Why such a complicated journey?

Niagara Falls on the Canadian side is said to be prettier.

Edited August 20, 2023 by Mike E

[Jon & Ygritte 178]

1 hour ago, Timona said:

50 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Why would you not present your EU passport to CBSA?

 

Yes. It is your right. 

If you have an eTA.

By land yes. A photo copy of your naturalization certificate works too. This way your naturalization certificate can go to work on your passport while you are gone. 

 

Niagara Falls on the Canadian side is said to be prettier.

 

Thanks, Mike. That’s what I was thinking. My husband was worried it wouldn't work because I (hopefully) will have dual citizenships and the US would feel I was abusing them. He thinks the US has less obligation letting a dual citizen into the US since they have legal rights in more than one country, and thus aren't solely dependent on being let into the US. I wouldn't think that's true other than in extreme cases as in criminals.

[Mike E 11,741]

11 minutes ago, Jon & Ygritte said:

US would feel I was abusing them

For not presenting a passport?

 

It is the U.S. abusing you for imposing a 2 month wait for “expedited” service. If the U.S. government was competently in run, then you would pay a passport application fee at your N-400 interview and be handed your passport(s) when you took oath of U.S. citizenship.

Gallery:

“Yeah but other countries work the same way”

 

Me:

”The U.S. isn’t other countries. Other countries don’t land humans on the moon. We immigrated here because the U.S. is the best country. So start giving us what we paid thousands of dollars to get.”
 

The CBPO on the return might scream at you. Shrug it off. An armed CBPO earning $100K+ a year who gets so easily offended and feels abused should get a life and a job at What-A-Burger.

 

Caveat: if you have global entry, do not do this.

[Ontarkie 14,304]

Once you get your certificate get your DL updated right away. Enter Canada with your EU passport or US DL. Then enter the US again with your DL.

I crossed in June with just my DL as my passport still did not come in. They didn't even blink at it. 

[carmel34 3,646]

3 hours ago, Jon & Ygritte said:

Is it possible to after the oath drive to Canada with the certificate of naturalization and then fly to Europe with your EU passport? And then fly back with your EU passport and return from Canada to the US with your certificate of naturalization? Or would the US border question that when you return to the US driving from Canada? (Just trying to find out my options if I'm not able to get my passport before my upcoming planned trip.)

From the CBP website:

 

https://help.cbp.gov/s/sidebar-top-5-travel?language=en_US

 

Land or Sea Travel: U.S. citizens (including infants and children) entering the United States by land or sea are required to present a valid WHTI-compliant travel document. These include:
 

• U.S. Passport or U.S. Passport Card
• Enhanced Driver's License
• Enhanced Tribal Card
• Trusted Traveler Program (TTP) cards* (Global Entry**, NEXUS, or SENTRI)
• U.S. military orders (PCS) with valid military ID. Accompanying immediate family members can use any WHTI-compliant travel document.  
• U.S. Merchant Mariner Credential with official travel letter.

[Mike E 11,741]

12 minutes ago, carmel34 said:

U.S. citizens (including infants and children) entering the United States by land or sea are required to present a valid WHTI-compliant travel document. These include:

As @Ontarkie attested, this is not enforced nor is enforcement constitutional as per courts.

 

If one is traveling by third party commercial carrier, such as ferry, bus, train, with at least one exception (see below) the carrier is required to deny boarding without a WHTI travel document.

 

Regardless each day, thousands of U.S. citizens re-enter the U.S. on cruise ships without WHTI documents, as the cruise industry and CBP have negotiated an exception to the carrier rule if the ship returns to the original port of departure.

[Ontarkie 14,304]

I did not have an Enhanced DL. Just the regular old DL.