Bringing a family to the US

[teddy k 35]

Hi everyone good day to all, my wife a us citizen just petitioned for her brother his wife and 2 young kids to come here I would like to know how much do I have to make in order for them to come here my family size is 3 so with them it would be 7 people 

[Boiler 45,740]

I think you are being a bit premature.

 

In 30 years time, whatever, no way knowing and does it really matter now? 

[SalishSea 17,970]

1 hour ago, teddy k said:

Hi everyone good day to all, my wife a us citizen just petitioned for her brother his wife and 2 young kids to come here I would like to know how much do I have to make in order for them to come here my family size is 3 so with them it would be 7 people 

Does everyone involved understand how long it will actually take?

[Ontarkie 14,310]

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[EM_Vandaveer 2,408]

The kids will age out, most likely, anyway. A few decades' wait before the PD becomes current and NVC needs the I-864 and by then the required income levels will change.

[Mike E 11,741]

10 hours ago, teddy k said:

Hi everyone good day to all, my wife a us citizen just petitioned for her brother his wife and 2 young kids to come here I would like to know how much do I have to make in order for them to come here my family size is 3 so with them it would be 7 people 

So back to your question.
 

So a total of 6 people. In 2023 this would be $50,350 per year.

 

See https://www.uscis.gov/i-864p

 

You should also read https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2023/visa-bulletin-for-september-2023.html

As you can see cases from 22APR07 or earlier are now being taken up. 
 

Some people will tell you;

2023 - 2007 = 16, so a 16 year wait. That is not realistitc.

 

* 5 years ago, cases from 08JAN05 or earlier were being taken up: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-bulletin/2018/visa-bulletin-for-september-2018.html . So in 5 years the date progressed 15 months. IOW 60 months of duration had 15 months of progress.

 

* what we are seeing is that even when a filing date becomes current, cases languish in NVC for years because a visa number is not really available. It appears the State department is manipulating the visa bulletin to show a more optimistic view.  

Thus a realistic wait estimate is 

 

(2023 - 2007) * 60/15 + 3 = 67 years. Assuming 3 percent annual inflation, you will need to earn 

 

50,350 * 1.03^67

= $364,832

 

Whether their kids will age out, depends on their age today. Looking at the date of filing chart for F4, it is 11 months ahead of the final action chart. So I would expect I-130 approval in (2023 - 2008) * 60/15 = 60 years. 64 - 60 = 4

21 - 4 = 17.

 

So any kid 17 or older will age out for sure. Kids under age 17 have a chance unless USCIS plays dirty and approves the I-130 too quickly.

 

 

[teddy k 35]

Thanks Mike that was the answer I was looking for,  the kids are 9&10 from the Philippines coming here under the F-4 visa the time line says 113 months but we know that's not true

[Boiler 45,740]

2 minutes ago, teddy k said:

Thanks Mike that was the answer I was looking for,  the kids are 9&10 from the Philippines coming here under the F-4 visa the time line says 113 months but we know that's not true

You are probably looking at how long it could take to get the I 130 approved, not the Visa.

 

They will be middle aged, and unlikely but not impossible CSPA would save them, assuming of course they have not married, have children, maybe even grandchildren of their own.

[Boiler 45,740]

If the children are going to be 70 then the parents will be in the ir 90's maybe, makes you wonder how old the OP will be.

[SalishSea 17,970]

4 hours ago, teddy k said:

Thanks Mike that was the answer I was looking for,  the kids are 9&10 from the Philippines coming here under the F-4 visa the time line says 113 months but we know that's not true

I don't think you're understanding the visa bulletin correctly.  Petition approval and visa availability are DECADES apart.

[belinda63 3,041]

You indicate the Philippines so it is even longer. Currently processing Aug 2002 so at least 21 years, children will be at least 30. 

You won't have to worry about the affidavit of support for at least 20 years and more realistically 25 years. How many people will be immigrating might also change as the children might age out or marry, spouse might divorce, a lot can happen in 25 years. 

[Boiler 45,740]

12 minutes ago, belinda63 said:

You indicate the Philippines so it is even longer. Currently processing Aug 2002 so at least 21 years, children will be at least 30. 

You won't have to worry about the affidavit of support for at least 20 years and more realistically 25 years. How many people will be immigrating might also change as the children might age out or marry, spouse might divorce, a lot can happen in 25 years. 

Assuming the current and past ever increasing number of applicants, the fixed number of visas, I just do not see a year to a year processing of Priority Dates.

 

20 or 25 years seems very optimistic.