visitor visa rejection - immediate reapply is fine?

[girish117 0]

hello lovely people. my brother in law (who runs a business in India) and his wife (who is a NEET aspirant) got rejection today for visitor visa (at Chennai consulate).

visa interview sequence -

interviewer- purpose of visit?

bro in law - "vacationing in the U.S. will be joining my bro in law (another bro in law not me- but he failed to explain hes talking about a different bro in law and not me) who is also going to U.S. during the same time" this could be a minor red flag because he went into too much detail about his another bro in law who is comign to the U.S. during the same time. this might have confused the interviewer. I am of the opinion that he must have just said vacation and stopped there.

interview- what's the duration ?

bro in law - about a month.

interviewer - what do you do (occupation)?

bro in law - construction business. (RED FLAG?)

interview - what does your wife do?

bro in law - shes a neet aspirant. (BIG RED FLAG? NOT CURRENTLY WORKING SO MAYBE?)

interviewer- what does your sister do in the U.S?

Bro in law - she works for XYZ as an Engineer.

interviewer- can i see her visa?

bro in law hands him a copy. interviewer turns towards his computer an starts typing stuff.

Interviewer- and your bro in law?

bro in law - he works for ABC as an Engineer.

at this moment he prints out rejection letter and hands it. "section 214b of US immigration and Nationality act.- lack of adequate evidence/ compelling reasons to return to India".

He is planning to reapply immediately and try to get a visa.

 

questions - is it advisable to reapply immediately?

opinions on what went wrong during the interview?

Thanks a ton in advance folks!!
 

[milimelo 4,477]

I don't see how immediate application for another tourist visa will get them a different result. No idea what NEET aspirant is.

[Mike E 11,739]

6 minutes ago, girish117 said:

He is planning to reapply immediately and try to get a visa.

 

questions - is it advisable to reapply immediately?

Not unless circumstances have changed.

 

6 minutes ago, girish117 said:

opinions on what went wrong during the interview?

Weak ties to India. Neither have jobs where they work for an employer. The husband owns a business and self employment is considered a weak tie.

 

Whereas they have strong ties to the U.S.  

 

An immediate visa re-application suggests desperation to enter the U.S.  

 

2 minutes ago, milimelo said:

No idea what NEET aspirant is.

Applicant for medical school in India. So a weak tie given she is not in med school.

Edited August 18, 2023 by Mike E

[Boiler 45,482]

I had to look up NEET, new one to me.

 

He can apply whenever he wants, practically I believe there is a bit of a wait for appointments in India.

 

Nothing goes away, all that typing will leave notes for further interviews.

[Crazy Cat 41,844]

5 minutes ago, girish117 said:

hello lovely people. my brother in law (who runs a business in India) and his wife (who is a NEET aspirant) got rejection today for visitor visa (at Chennai consulate).

visa interview sequence -

interviewer- purpose of visit?

bro in law - "vacationing in the U.S. will be joining my bro in law (another bro in law not me- but he failed to explain hes talking about a different bro in law and not me) who is also going to U.S. during the same time" this could be a minor red flag because he went into too much detail about his another bro in law who is comign to the U.S. during the same time. this might have confused the interviewer. I am of the opinion that he must have just said vacation and stopped there.

interview- what's the duration ?

bro in law - about a month.

interviewer - what do you do (occupation)?

bro in law - construction business. (RED FLAG?)

interview - what does your wife do?

bro in law - shes a neet aspirant. (BIG RED FLAG? NOT CURRENTLY WORKING SO MAYBE?)

interviewer- what does your sister do in the U.S?

Bro in law - she works for XYZ as an Engineer.

interviewer- can i see her visa?

bro in law hands him a copy. interviewer turns towards his computer an starts typing stuff.

Interviewer- and your bro in law?

bro in law - he works for ABC as an Engineer.

at this moment he prints out rejection letter and hands it. "section 214b of US immigration and Nationality act.- lack of adequate evidence/ compelling reasons to return to India".

He is planning to reapply immediately and try to get a visa.

 

questions - is it advisable to reapply immediately?

opinions on what went wrong during the interview?

Thanks a ton in advance folks!!
 

I would not advise an immediate re-application.  

[SalishSea 17,824]

19 minutes ago, girish117 said:

hello lovely people. my brother in law (who runs a business in India) and his wife (who is a NEET aspirant) got rejection today for visitor visa (at Chennai consulate).

visa interview sequence -

interviewer- purpose of visit?

bro in law - "vacationing in the U.S. will be joining my bro in law (another bro in law not me- but he failed to explain hes talking about a different bro in law and not me) who is also going to U.S. during the same time" this could be a minor red flag because he went into too much detail about his another bro in law who is comign to the U.S. during the same time. this might have confused the interviewer. I am of the opinion that he must have just said vacation and stopped there.

interview- what's the duration ?

bro in law - about a month.

interviewer - what do you do (occupation)?

bro in law - construction business. (RED FLAG?)

interview - what does your wife do?

bro in law - shes a neet aspirant. (BIG RED FLAG? NOT CURRENTLY WORKING SO MAYBE?)

interviewer- what does your sister do in the U.S?

Bro in law - she works for XYZ as an Engineer.

interviewer- can i see her visa?

bro in law hands him a copy. interviewer turns towards his computer an starts typing stuff.

Interviewer- and your bro in law?

bro in law - he works for ABC as an Engineer.

at this moment he prints out rejection letter and hands it. "section 214b of US immigration and Nationality act.- lack of adequate evidence/ compelling reasons to return to India".

He is planning to reapply immediately and try to get a visa.

 

questions - is it advisable to reapply immediately?

opinions on what went wrong during the interview?

Thanks a ton in advance folks!!
 

But why apply again?  Visitor visa was rejected due to insufficient ties to India/probably immigrant intent.  Unless something significant in their lives has changed in the last 5 minutes, the result will be the same.

[girish117 0]

27 minutes ago, girish117 said:

hello lovely people. my brother in law (who runs a business in India) and his wife (who is a NEET aspirant) got rejection today for visitor visa (at Chennai consulate).

visa interview sequence -

interviewer- purpose of visit?

bro in law - "vacationing in the U.S. will be joining my bro in law (another bro in law not me- but he failed to explain hes talking about a different bro in law and not me) who is also going to U.S. during the same time" this could be a minor red flag because he went into too much detail about his another bro in law who is comign to the U.S. during the same time. this might have confused the interviewer. I am of the opinion that he must have just said vacation and stopped there.

interview- what's the duration ?

bro in law - about a month.

 

interview - who is sponsoring?

bro in law - self.

interviewer- have you been to any countries?

bro in law - yes , thailand and hong kong.

interviewer - what do you do (occupation)?

bro in law - construction business. (RED FLAG?)

interview - what does your wife do?

bro in law - shes a neet aspirant. (BIG RED FLAG? NOT CURRENTLY WORKING SO MAYBE?)

interviewer- what does your sister do in the U.S?

Bro in law - she works for XYZ as an Engineer.

interviewer- can i see her visa?

bro in law hands him a copy. interviewer turns towards his computer an starts typing stuff.

Interviewer- and your bro in law?

bro in law - he works for ABC as an Engineer.

at this moment he prints out rejection letter and hands it. "section 214b of US immigration and Nationality act.- lack of adequate evidence/ compelling reasons to return to India".

He is planning to reapply immediately and try to get a visa.

 

questions - is it advisable to reapply immediately?

opinions on what went wrong during the interview?

Thanks a ton in advance folks!!
 

edited the interview- left out two things that transpired. marked them in bold. one of them is important - my bro in law has demonstrated that he has returned to his country of origin from various visits outside. 

[girish117 0]

this stupid forum does not allow me to edit the original post or reply to others. not sure what I am doing wrong. but in response to questions on why he desperately needs one immediately- its cause this is probably the best time for him to visit us since our other bro in law has managed to get his company to agree to him staying here for a month. so if this guy and his wife joins us it will be like a family vacation - something we havent done since forever.

[Boiler 45,482]

1 minute ago, girish117 said:

edited the interview- left out two things that transpired. marked them in bold. one of them is important - my bro in law has demonstrated that he has returned to his country of origin from various visits outside. 

I am missing their relevance to the questions you asked.

[Boiler 45,482]

1 minute ago, girish117 said:

this stupid forum does not allow me to edit the original post or reply to others. not sure what I am doing wrong. but in response to questions on why he desperately needs one immediately- its cause this is probably the best time for him to visit us since our other bro in law has managed to get his company to agree to him staying here for a month. so if this guy and his wife joins us it will be like a family vacation - something we havent done since forever.

You have limited time when you can edit a post.

 

I am not sure how practical this is with very long wait times to get an appointment.

[girish117 0]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

I am missing their relevance to the questions you asked.

my bro in law has travelled to two countries and has proved he has returned every single time back to India. so I am not sure they would reject his US visa on grounds of insufficient evidence or compelling reasons to return to India. that was the relevance.

[Boiler 45,482]

1 minute ago, girish117 said:

my bro in law has travelled to two countries and has proved he has returned every single time back to India. so I am not sure they would reject his US visa on grounds of insufficient evidence or compelling reasons to return to India. that was the relevance.

Thailand and Singapore

 

Anyway they did so that is all that matters.

[SalishSea 17,824]

16 minutes ago, girish117 said:

my bro in law has travelled to two countries and has proved he has returned every single time back to India. so I am not sure they would reject his US visa on grounds of insufficient evidence or compelling reasons to return to India. that was the relevance.

Maybe if the countries travelled to were Canada or EU countries.....Thailand and Singapore are not compelling evidence, IMHO.

[Jawaree 717]

Self employed ? (no tax or

business banking evidence) 

Weak ties in home country

waste of time n money to

apply too soon ( desperate) 

when situation changes,

maybe a job letter n bank

statement (verifiable)

 

 

 

[PaulaCJohnny 713]

Doesn’t matter which Brother in law he will visit. A lot of family members lives here.

 

As others said the reason that he was denied is the one that he need to improve. What changed since the interview? If nothing about his life (not about the visit) the outcome was not just be the same as will also show that he is desperate to come.

 

A visa is not a right and they can denied someone based on anything that make they believe that this person will probably overstay.

 

Does he stayed 1 months visiting Thailand and Singapore? Does he have a lot of family member that immigrate to there? Even so the US is a really different country and have it their own rules.

 

Now, if he wants to try and see the results, he is free to do it. 
 

Good luck 

Edited August 19, 2023 by PaulaCJohnny