Question on CR1 Visa

[fritz222 5]

Good morning, I have a question for the group. I am planning a wedding in Thailand in October. I was wondering what happens if the CR1 Visa gets rejected for some unknown reason? Has this happened to anyone on this site? Thank you  

[Crazy Cat 42,032]

Depends on the reason for denial.  Sometimes, denied cases are successfully appealed and/or rectified.   

Edited August 13, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Crazy Cat 42,032]

Don't fall into the "What if" trap.  It can drive you crazy....and the immigration process is already stressful.

[fritz222 5]

That sounds like good advice

[pushbrk 13,043]

If there are no disqualifying factors present, and the relationship can be shown to be genuine, there is little chance of denial.  "Rejection" is a term that applies to an incomplete or improperly filed petition though.  In those cases, you fix the problem and resubmit.

[nastra30 2,314]

21 hours ago, johnale11 said:

I was wondering what happens if the CR1 Visa gets rejected for some unknown reason?   

With quality application and preparation  CR1 won't be denied. However, if one gets rejected, it won't be due to an unknown reason; the reason will be known and opportunity given to remedy it.

[fritz222 5]

13 hours ago, pushbrk said:

If there are no disqualifying factors present, and the relationship can be shown to be genuine, there is little chance of denial.  "Rejection" is a term that applies to an incomplete or improperly filed petition though.  In those cases, you fix the problem and resubmit.

Thank you sir

16 minutes ago, nastra30 said:

With quality application and preparation  CR1 won't be denied. However, if one gets rejected, it won't be due to an unknown reason; the reason will be known and opportunity given to remedy it.

Thank you

[pushbrk 13,043]

On 8/14/2023 at 6:38 PM, nastra30 said:

With quality application and preparation  CR1 won't be denied. However, if one gets rejected, it won't be due to an unknown reason; the reason will be known and opportunity given to remedy it.

Actually, that is not how things work.  A CR1 won't be denied without a reason.  However, if the reason exists, no amount of quality application and preparation can overcome it.

 

The most common reason for a spouse visa denial, is that the Consular Officer does not believe the relationship is genuine or "bona fide".  Preparation and evidence can prevent those denials, but ONLY IF there's enough convincing evidence submitted up front.  Contrived evidence doesn't work.  Consular Officers are well trained to spot that.

 

Sure, some with bona fide relationships are denied, and some fake relationships slip through.  Anybody who is actually worried about that, SHOULD BE WORRIED.  If not, be confident and competent, instead of a worrywart.

[nastra30 2,314]

26 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Actually, that is not how things work.  A CR1 won't be denied without a reason.  However, if the reason exists, no amount of quality application and preparation can overcome it.

 

The most common reason for a spouse visa denial, is that the Consular Officer does not believe the relationship is genuine or "bona fide".  Preparation and evidence can prevent those denials, but ONLY IF there's enough convincing evidence submitted up front.  Contrived evidence doesn't work.  Consular Officers are well trained to spot that.

 

Sure, some with bona fide relationships are denied, and some fake relationships slip through.  Anybody who is actually worried about that, SHOULD BE WORRIED.  If not, be confident and competent, instead of a worrywart.

Still doesn't refute what I said. They'll still be given the opportunity to remedy it by sending it back to USCIS.

[pushbrk 13,043]

40 minutes ago, nastra30 said:

Still doesn't refute what I said. They'll still be given the opportunity to remedy it by sending it back to USCIS.

Which usually fails.  You did not mention sending it back to USCIS. A very small percentage of those cases result in an eventual visa.

 

[nastra30 2,314]

6 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

Which usually fails.  You did not mention sending it back to USCIS. A very small percentage of those cases result in an eventual visa. - Bingo. Because they were given the opportunity. Nobody is saying 100% cases get visa because that will not be realistic.

 

Whether it fails or not the opportunity is given. That's the SOP by law so no argument there. And by the way the consulate also gives an opportunity, it's not a one and done. 

[pushbrk 13,043]

1 hour ago, nastra30 said:

Whether it fails or not the opportunity is given. That's the SOP by law so no argument there. And by the way the consulate also gives an opportunity, it's not a one and done. 

SOMETIMES, the Consulate gives an opportunity.  That would be when there is something is missing, or they think more evidence might change their mind.  But,,,,so, so, so many "denials" or "refusals" are final, and the notice the applicant is handed, says the Consulate is returning the file to USCIS "with a RECOMMENDATION, that the approval of the petition be "revoked".  It is only a few months later, that the PETITIONER, (not the visa applicant) is given an opportunity to make their argument.  Usually, those arguments fail.  When they succeed, that is NO GUARANTEE the visa will be issued.  Quite often, the "reaffirmed" petition results in a second and final visa denial.

 

The only REAL assurance of a visa, is to actually HAVE a bona fide relationship, with adequate evidence, and no actual disqualifying factors.

Edited August 16, 2023 by pushbrk

[nastra30 2,314]

22 minutes ago, pushbrk said:

It is only a few months later, that the PETITIONER, (not the visa applicant) is given an opportunity

Again, an opportunity is an opportunity; given to petitioner or beneficiary doesn't matter. The SOP is clear on procedure. Not all cases initially denied are final. Period. An opportunity given overturns some denials.

 

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I'm going to reiterate my point which I don't see anything wrong with. This does not cover those involved in fraud or misrep or immigration shenanigans.
+ with quality application and preparation one shouldn't have a problem getting a CR1 visa approved.
+ Even with that, if the consulate denies you'll be given the opportunity to remedy it (through consulate and/or USCIS).

 

Nothing wrong with this at all. 

 

Having said that, I have contributed what I can to this thread and choose not to continue to banter.

Edited August 16, 2023 by nastra30

[pushbrk 13,043]

1 hour ago, nastra30 said:

Again, an opportunity is an opportunity; given to petitioner or beneficiary doesn't matter. The SOP is clear on procedure. Not all cases initially denied are final. Period. An opportunity given overturns some denials.

 

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I'm going to reiterate my point which I don't see anything wrong with. This does not cover those involved in fraud or misrep or immigration shenanigans.
+ with quality application and preparation one shouldn't have a problem getting a CR1 visa approved.
+ Even with that, if the consulate denies you'll be given the opportunity to remedy it (through consulate and/or USCIS).

 

Nothing wrong with this at all. 

 

Having said that, I have contributed what I can to this thread and choose not to continue to banter.

Once you add....  "This does not cover those involved in fraud or misrep or immigration shenanigans."

 

I don't have any problem with it either.  😀

[Troy B 224]

Btw, there was at last one member (here on VJ) that ended up winning her rejection,  only to be told to file again.