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Do requested changes to the Naturalization Certificate at Oath Ceremony incur delays?

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51 minutes ago, harry.st said:

Good idea - I had not thought of that (but what if they refuse to even let me take the oath? And tell me "just keep the green card for now").

 

Also, don't they need to print it? Do they have fancy printers there?

 

I did a same-day oath roughly an hour after my approved interview, so I assume they have the required printers there. In fact I think it's mainly the paper stock that is special.

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11 minutes ago, NorthByNorthwest said:

 

I did a same-day oath roughly an hour after my approved interview, so I assume they have the required printers there. In fact I think it's mainly the paper stock that is special.

 

In Manhattan they do not do them same day (anymore. They did them during COVID, as per the lawyer - who is co-responsible for the "divorced" entry). I seem to remember they did one recently - but in Brooklyn! Will have to  check again.

 

Thank you so much for your help! (from somebody who was seriously considering moving to Sweden, before settling for NY).

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I have seen no end of posts about Annulment, but all the ones I remember have been around getting the non USC deported.

 

I am pretty sure you are the first one I have come across the other way around. Well there have been 2 cases where a USC was able to get an annulment, what happened to the ex Spouse no idea.

 

It is nice to have a real world example of a case, for the next time it comes up. I  know you can remove conditions with an annulment but it can be very difficult to persuade some people that is the case.

 

Unless the system has an Annulment option I would go with the officer - Divorce.

 

Caveat I do not see everything.

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565 has Marriage Annulled option.

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10 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I  know you can remove conditions with an annulment but it can be very difficult to persuade some people that is the case.

 

Somewhat off-topic, but it was ...easy.

 

When I described the situation to the lawyer, at the time

a) she was unfazed (told me right away "no problem, we will file and the conditions will be removed")

b) she did not even submit all the info I gave her (to my surprise she submitted no pictures, only 2 of the - many - affidavits, etc etc).

 

Things may have gotten harder, since - I do not know.

 

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

565 has Marriage Annulled option.

 

I know 🙂

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I got into a bit of a discussion last week about Removing Conditions, it is so unusual to come across a case where anyone has an issue, a waste of everyone's time. And money.

 

I would imagine Hacking has seen a lot more unusual stuff since he started his show, the nature of this sort of forum is that it attracts the unusual cases.

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@Boiler

 

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Unless the system has an Annulment option I would go with the officer - Divorce.

 

May I ask why? How can there be a divorce, w/o a divorce decree?

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Single is not an option, so Marriage Annulled would be most accurate. I do not know what their system allows, if it is an option on the 565 then it should be elsewhere. Logically.

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8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Single is not an option

 

The Naturalization Certificate may say "Unmarried" - I have seen pictures. Essentially "Single". I am curious why you think it is not a legit option, given that the marriage has been voided. I would think that, absent something more specific, this is the only correct one!

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In normal parlance Unmarried includes divorced, widowed and presumably annulled. 

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11 minutes ago, Boiler said:

In normal parlance Unmarried includes divorced, widowed and presumably annulled. 

 

Well, the Naturalization Certificate may state Unmarried, and likely, Divorced (in which case they do not like normal parlance), OR, they have gotten rid of "Divorced", which suits me better (what is in the actual database, though, I may have to find the hard way).

 

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@harry.st I would call in to Hacking first world problem or no… finding out if changing a typo on a naturalization certificate will delay the oath ceremony is actually something that a lot of people would be interested in finding the answer to… it’s one of those issue that have wide appeal. Doesn’t matter about the specifics of your case. 

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2 hours ago, harry.st said:

 

In Manhattan they do not do them same day (anymore. They did them during COVID, as per the lawyer - who is co-responsible for the "divorced" entry). I seem to remember they did one recently - but in Brooklyn! Will have to  check again.

I had the same day oath ceremony in Manhattan in May this year. I got my certificate 15-20 min after the interview, so I'm pretty sure they print them out right there. 

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8 minutes ago, FriendlyUser said:

I had the same day oath ceremony in Manhattan in May this year. I got my certificate 15-20 min after the interview, so I'm pretty sure they print them out right there. 

 

Interesting! So it is not only Brooklyn! Thank you so much!

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49 minutes ago, Redro said:

@harry.st I would call in to Hacking first world problem or no… finding out if changing a typo on a naturalization certificate will delay the oath ceremony is actually something that a lot of people would be interested in finding the answer to… it’s one of those issue that have wide appeal. Doesn’t matter about the specifics of your case. 

 

Very hard to bring myself to do it.
 

Many people could use relief from a sinus infection, too. But bringing it up (esp more than once), at a venue where people discuss serious conditions...

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