Politics of Petulance (title renamed to match original post)

[Dashinka 24,372]

On 9/6/2024 at 3:39 PM, Family said:

Hmm…let’s see, he is the fellow who the Supremes said can go full trumpy and not get in trouble 😂..

So you agree with me that elected officials, judges, and government bureaucrats do not deserve immunity from anything they do, official or not?

[Family 3,988]

 

[Family 3,988]

 

[TBoneTX 45,023]

A post containing a tweet with a prohibited evasion of VJ's word-filter has been removed.

[Dashinka 24,372]

18 hours ago, Family said:

 

Isn't Harris leaning on her union buddies to provide crowds?

[Dashinka 24,372]

On 9/9/2024 at 3:50 AM, Dashinka said:

Name one of Kamala’s policies?  I will wait.

Still waiting. 

 

I hear the Harris campaign just cut and pasted the info from Old Corrupt Petulant Joe's campaign, so apparently KK is not a change agent.

[Boiler 45,314]

She is pro Gun, to be fair that is different.

[Family 3,988]

We begin with a friendly wager.

 

I have to watch Kamala Harris debate Donald Trump this evening. In the lead-up to this showdown, both Trump and the Republican Party have latched onto an issue that affects every living American directly: imaginary Haitian immigrants invading a small Ohio town and then eating all of the cats and dogs in that town. If you live in the Bay Area — hell, if you live anywhere — this incredibly false, racist story sent chills down your spine. YOUR town isn’t being invaded, and YOUR dog isn’t being eaten, but Donald Trump is hellbent on doing something about it.

 

So, in advance of the debate, I bet my SFGATE editors that Trump will mention the dog thing at 6:30 p.m., half an hour into the proceedings.

 

Please note that I deeply resent having to watch this debate, especially given that Trump somehow won the last one. But this is an election that will be decided on pets that have gone uneaten and couches that have gone unxxx. It’s a bullxxx contest, so I have to watch to make sure….

https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/harris-trump-debate-19757717.php

 

[Family 3,988]

 

 

[TBoneTX 45,023]

Go to Elections thread to see post that contains videos of actual Springfield residents actually attesting to actual crimes against animals by the Haitians there.

[Family 3,988]

3 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Go to Elections thread to see post that contains videos of actual Springfield residents actually attesting to actual crimes against animals by the Haitians there.

 

In September 2024, American right-wing politicians and media figures amplified false claims that Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, were illegally abducting pets such as cats and dogs and eating them. 

 

Springfield became a popular destination for Haitian migrants in the 2020s, leading to racial tensions in the city. The claim about immigrants eating pets began when a member of a local Facebook group said a neighbor's daughter's friend's cat was eaten by immigrants. It spread quickly among far-right and neo-Nazi groups, and was then amplified by prominent figures in the American right, most notably Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, his running mate JD Vance, and Xowner Elon Musk.^[1][2][3][4]

 

In August 2023, a Haitian immigrant drove his minivan into a school bus, killing 11-year-old Aiden Clark.^[14] The driver was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and vehicular homicide and sentenced to nine to 13-and-a-half years in prison.^[15]The incident inflamed racial tensions in the area and increased hostility towards the Haitian community.^[13][16][17] 

 

In August 2024, the Springfield Jazz & Blues Fest was interrupted by neo-Nazis with assault rifles who performed Nazi salutes and held swastika flags. Local police called it "a little peaceful protest".^[18][19] 

 

Later that month, a member of the neo-Nazi group Blood Tribe disrupted a Springfield city meeting, introducing himself with an anti-black slur and threating that "crime and savagery will only increase with every Haitian you bring in."^[20][21

 

The rumor is based on a Facebook post about a user's neighbor's daughter's friend, who the user said "lost her cat"…

Amplification by Republican politicians

On September 9, JD Vance, U.S. Senator from Ohio and the 2024 Republican nominee for vice president, spread the claim as a political attack against Kamala Harris, the 2024 Democratic nominee for president, writing "Months ago, I raised the issue of Haitian illegal immigrants draining social services and generally causing chaos all over Springfield, Ohio. Reports now show that people have had their pets abducted and eaten by people who shouldn't be in this country. Where is our border czar?," receiving over 101,000 likes as of September 10.^[1]

 

 Vance later acknowledged the rumor could be false when he stated: "In the last several weeks, my office has received many inquiries from actual residents of Springfield who've said their neighbors' pets or local wildlife were abducted by Haitian migrants. It's possible, of course, that all of these rumors will turn out to be false." He also stated, to continue posting "cat memes."^[2]

 

U.S. Senator from Texas Ted Cruz posted a widely criticized meme relating to the incident picturing two cats stating "Please vote for Trump, so Haitian immigrants don't eat us", receiving over 113,000 likes as of September 10.^[31]

 

The Arizona Republican Party put out twelve roadside billboards in the Phoenix metro area stating "Eat less kittens, Vote Republican!", spoofing Chick-Fil-A's "Eat Mor Chikin" advertising campaign.^[32]

 

During the Harris–Trump presidential debate on 10 September, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump falsely claimed that "In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in, they're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the people that live there".^[33] 

 

Moderator David Muir fact-checked Trump, stating that ABC News reached out to town manager Rob Rue who confirmed that no such incidents had occurred.^[34]

 

Reactions

The hoax been widely characterized as a racist attempt to stoke fears or resentment of immigrants.^{[17][35][36][23][37]}

 

The photographer who posted a photo of a man with a dead goose to Reddit told The Columbus Dispatch he regretted taking the picture of the pedestrian, stating "I wish I never took it, for sure. And I hate that the picture that I took is being weaponized to use against immigrants, or really, any other group. They always have to have somebody to use as a weapon. Some group to be the bad guy."^[26]

 

When JD Vance and other far-right social media users used the death of Aiden Clark to perpetuate the hoax, falsely claiming it was a racially-motivated murder by an illegal immigrant, Aiden's father Nathan Clark accused Trump of exploiting his son's accidental death for political gain by furthering a false narrative among his followers about violent savage Haitians.^[38][39][40]

 

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield,_Ohio,_cat-eating_hoax}

[Boiler 45,314]

Now this is a few months old but certainly a photo of a Canadian Geese and not in Springfield but nearby.

 

Anyway for the sake of completeness Springfield. Trump also mentioned Aurora and no one seems to question that.

 

 

 

 

[Family 3,988]

9 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Now this is a few months old but certainly a photo of a Canadian Geese and not in Springfield but nearby.

Yes , the goose photo posted to Reddit as query for hunting season. ..with statement from the photographer is referenced in the above link.

 

[Boiler 45,314]

[Boiler 45,314]

Presumably this lady is racist?