Politics of Petulance (title renamed to match original post)

[Family 4,065]

6 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Not sure about your experiences, but I have had personal experience where Democrats/Leftist are very intolerant of any view that does not agree with their’s.  Many years ago, I dated a truly committed Democrat/Leftist, it was no big deal to me as I like hearing opposing views, but when she found out my political leanings she promptly broke up with me.  Whatever, to each their own.

I left my first marriage after falling in love with a fellow who believed OJ was innocent 😂 ..he and our offspring that we called POTUS ( brilliant nose bleed IQ) are both Trumpers too.

Politics wee never the problem ..my beloved kept falling into non matrimonial beds 😂

 

[Dashinka 24,635]

On 12/29/2023 at 12:53 PM, Family said:

I left my first marriage after falling in love with a fellow who believed OJ was innocent 😂 ..he and our offspring that we called POTUS ( brilliant nose bleed IQ) are both Trumpers too.

Politics wee never the problem ..my beloved kept falling into non matrimonial beds 😂

 

Yeah, in my case it was all about Leftist politics.  If I did not adhere to her leftist views, I was out.  In the end, it was for the best, as back then, I was naive to the intolerance of the Left/Democrats and it opened my eyes.  Live and learn.

[Family 4,065]

  

 

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[Family 4,065]

Attacking the Judge ..hmm..maybe too Trumpy

 

 

[TBoneTX 45,598]

21 minutes ago, Family said:

maybe too Trumpy

Maybe too psycho-criminal.

[Dashinka 24,635]

13 hours ago, Family said:

Attacking the Judge ..hmm..maybe too Trumpy

 

 

Seems more to be a product of Leftist/Democrat criminal justice policies, but whatever makes you happy.

Edited January 5 by Dashinka

[Family 4,065]

19 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Maybe too psycho-criminal.

Worth noting that Trumpy threatened judges and picked up Restraining orders . The devoted magas stand ready to Pounce by Proxy …While others delight in the mayhem.

Brings to mind the jovial/ good cheer when Pelosi husband got attacked

 

 

[Dashinka 24,635]

1 hour ago, Family said:

Worth noting that Trumpy threatened judges and picked up Restraining orders . The devoted magas stand ready to Pounce by Proxy …While others delight in the mayhem.

Brings to mind the jovial/ good cheer when Pelosi husband got attacked

 

 

sounding more and more like Jamie Raskin with your logic.

 

[Family 4,065]

Covering all bases 😂..

Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity

 

Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive’s broad immunity to criminal prosecution.

 

The hypothetical was presented to Trump attorney John Sauer who answered with a “qualified yes” that a former president would be immune from prosecution on that matter or even on selling pardons

 

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4398223-trump-team-argues-assassination-of-rivals-is-covered-by-presidential-immunity/amp/

[Family 4,065]

Complete audio

 

https://www.c-span.org/video/?532581-1/district-columbia-circuit-court-oral-arguments-president-trumps-immunity-claims 

 

 

[Family 4,065]

Stephen Richer should have been safe.

In early 2021, Richer was an Arizona Republican official who regularly attended local party events…

 

But at one event, the crowd heckled and harassed him. When he tried to leave, they dragged him back in, yanking on his arms and shoulders, to berate him about the allegedly stolen 2020 election. He started to worry: Would his own people, fellow Republican Party he members, seriously hurt him?

 

There was a clear reason for the madness. Many of the Republican faithful had recently decided that Maricopa County had been the epicenter of “the steal,” Joe Biden’s theft of Arizona from Donald Trump — and the entire presidential election with it. This wasn’t true, obviously. Richer tried to tell them it wasn’t true, hoping his long track record in the state Republican party would give him some credibility.

 

It did not. What happened instead reveals a pattern that is quietly reshaping American politics: Across the board and around the country, data reveals that threats against public officials have risen to unprecedented numbers — to the point where 83 percent of Americans are now concerned about risks of political violence in their country. The threats are coming from across the political spectrum, but the most important ones in this regard emanate from the MAGA faithful. 

 

Trump’s most fanatical followers have created a situation where challenging him carries not only political risks but also personal ones. Elected officials who dare defy the former president face serious threats to their well-being and to that of their families — raising the cost of taking an already difficult stand.

…

By 2022, when Richer was presiding over the November election’s ballot tally, his office was fortified like a military base: surrounded by armed police deployed to protect him and his staff from threats. He recalls numerous staff members quitting on the spot after heated confrontations — and he was personally targeted by credible threats. When we spoke, he was about to testify in one of three federal cases against people who had vowed to kill him.

 

 

“You need to do your fxx job right because other people from other states are watching your axx,” the man allegedly said in a voicemail. “You fxx renege on this deal or give them any more troubles, your ### will never make it to your next little board meeting.”

It’s

 

In 2016, the Capitol Police recorded fewer than 900 threats against members of Congress. In 2017, that figure more than quadrupled, per data provided by the Capitol Police. 

The numbers continued to increase in every year of the Trump presidency, peaking at 9,700 in 2021. In 2022, the first full year of Biden’s term, the numbers went down to a still-high 7,500. The 2023 data has not yet been released, but a spike in threats against legislators during the House Republican speaker fight and Israel-Hamas conflictsuggests an increase over the 2022 numbers is plausible.

Members of Congress are taking these threats seriously. In September, three journalists at the Washington Post reviewed FEC filings to assess how much candidates for the House and Senate were spending on security. They found an overall increase of 500 percent between 2020 and 2022

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https://www.vox.com/23899688/2024-election-republican-primary-death-threats-trump
How death threats get Republicans to fall in line behind Trump

The insidious way violence is changing American politics — and shaping the 2024 election.

[Dashinka 24,635]

50 minutes ago, Family said:

Stephen Richer should have been safe.

In early 2021, Richer was an Arizona Republican official who regularly attended local party events…

 

But at one event, the crowd heckled and harassed him. When he tried to leave, they dragged him back in, yanking on his arms and shoulders, to berate him about the allegedly stolen 2020 election. He started to worry: Would his own people, fellow Republican Party he members, seriously hurt him?

 

There was a clear reason for the madness. Many of the Republican faithful had recently decided that Maricopa County had been the epicenter of “the steal,” Joe Biden’s theft of Arizona from Donald Trump — and the entire presidential election with it. This wasn’t true, obviously. Richer tried to tell them it wasn’t true, hoping his long track record in the state Republican party would give him some credibility.

 

It did not. What happened instead reveals a pattern that is quietly reshaping American politics: Across the board and around the country, data reveals that threats against public officials have risen to unprecedented numbers — to the point where 83 percent of Americans are now concerned about risks of political violence in their country. The threats are coming from across the political spectrum, but the most important ones in this regard emanate from the MAGA faithful. 

 

Trump’s most fanatical followers have created a situation where challenging him carries not only political risks but also personal ones. Elected officials who dare defy the former president face serious threats to their well-being and to that of their families — raising the cost of taking an already difficult stand.

…

By 2022, when Richer was presiding over the November election’s ballot tally, his office was fortified like a military base: surrounded by armed police deployed to protect him and his staff from threats. He recalls numerous staff members quitting on the spot after heated confrontations — and he was personally targeted by credible threats. When we spoke, he was about to testify in one of three federal cases against people who had vowed to kill him.

 

 

“You need to do your fxx job right because other people from other states are watching your axx,” the man allegedly said in a voicemail. “You fxx renege on this deal or give them any more troubles, your ### will never make it to your next little board meeting.”

It’s

 

In 2016, the Capitol Police recorded fewer than 900 threats against members of Congress. In 2017, that figure more than quadrupled, per data provided by the Capitol Police. 

The numbers continued to increase in every year of the Trump presidency, peaking at 9,700 in 2021. In 2022, the first full year of Biden’s term, the numbers went down to a still-high 7,500. The 2023 data has not yet been released, but a spike in threats against legislators during the House Republican speaker fight and Israel-Hamas conflictsuggests an increase over the 2022 numbers is plausible.

Members of Congress are taking these threats seriously. In September, three journalists at the Washington Post reviewed FEC filings to assess how much candidates for the House and Senate were spending on security. They found an overall increase of 500 percent between 2020 and 2022

.

https://www.vox.com/23899688/2024-election-republican-primary-death-threats-trump
How death threats get Republicans to fall in line behind Trump

The insidious way violence is changing American politics — and shaping the 2024 election.

Can't take the heat?

[Family 4,065]

 

 

 

[Dashinka 24,635]

14 hours ago, Family said:

 

 

 

The Leftist certainly don't understand the difference between antisemitism and pro-terrorism, so what is your point?