[Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump [merged]

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I loved it when she said this (below).  The fact that what Trump did is standard practice in the NYC real-estate market, how can any business there really believe a politician, particularly a Democrat politician.

 

'I think that this is really an extraordinary, unusual circumstance that the law-abiding and rule-following New Yorkers who are business people have nothing to worry about, because they’re very different than Donald Trump and his behavior,' Hochul responded.

Paraphrase:  "We were going after Trump....no one else.  If your name isn't Trump, no worries".  

My take on the case: There was no crime.  There was no victim...period. 

[Dashinka 24,493]

3 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Paraphrase:  "We were going after Trump....no one else.  If your name isn't Trump, no worries".  

My take on the case: There was no crime.  There was no victim...period. 

I tend to look at her statement much like others have, if you upset the establishment/Democrat way of things, you are toast.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

8 hours ago, Dashinka said:

they’re very different than Donald Trump and his behavior

And exactly WHY didn't they act during his previous many decades of similar behavior?   

[Pooky 3,784]

3 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

And exactly WHY didn't they act during his previous many decades of similar behavior?   

Because he was one of them, or so they thought 😉

[TBoneTX 45,287]

WATCH:  Kevin O'Leary Rips $355 Million Decision Against Trump, Says Would Never Invest in NY

 

The $350 million decision against former President Donald Trump in a high-profile civil fraud case has sparked a lot of reaction.

One of the people who found the decision outrageous was Shark Tank's "Mr Wonderful" Kevin O'Leary.  [...]

 

https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2024/02/19/watch-kevin-oleary-rips-355-million-decision-against-trump-says-would-never-invest-in-ny-n2170347

[Dashinka 24,493]

9 hours ago, Pooky said:

Because he was one of them, or so they thought 😉

I agree.  Trump was a big D supporter on the NYC/Manhattan party circuit, but as we see with all Democrat endeavors, when you leave the reservation, the Dems are much more vengeful than any scorned woman.  Heck, look what happens to anyone that should be part of one of the Democrat political identity categories, but speaks out against it.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

24 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I agree.  Trump was a big D supporter on the NYC/Manhattan party circuit, but as we see with all Democrat endeavors, when you leave the reservation, the Dems are much more vengeful than any scorned woman.  Heck, look what happens to anyone that should be part of one of the Democrat political identity categories, but speaks out against it.

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[TBoneTX 45,287]

Here, we can read the true weaknesses in the NY verdict, in plain language.

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Democrats Destroying Democracy To 'Save Democracy'

 

Democrats want to strip Trump of his assets and send him to jail to die like Navalny; that's how ruthless they have become.  Why?  Donald Trump represents a democratic threat to Democrats – their power, their narratives, their culture, and their coalition.  So, Democrats decided to wage war in the friendly confines of their home courts to destroy their nemesis and short-circuit democracy.  [...]

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/02/19/democrats_destroying_democracy_to_save_democracy_150523.html

[TBoneTX 45,287]

The Fix Is In:  The $455M 'Poison Pill' in Trump Judgment

 

[...] prosecutors and courts are manipulating the law to punish Donald Trump for deciding to run for another term as president.

 

And if you want to see how it gets played to the hilt, look no further than the massive penalty Judge Arthur Engoron levied on Trump -- and its implications.  Engoron hit Trump with $354 million in penalties for 'fraud' that never cost anyone a dime, and added $100 million in interest to boot.  And thanks to state law, Trump will have to put up the entire amount before he can appeal the verdict and judgment, Jonathan Turley explains this morning: [...]

 

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/02/20/the-fix-is-in-455m-poison-pill-in-trump-judgment-n3783255

[Dashinka 24,493]

12 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

The Fix Is In:  The $455M 'Poison Pill' in Trump Judgment

 

[...] prosecutors and courts are manipulating the law to punish Donald Trump for deciding to run for another term as president.

 

And if you want to see how it gets played to the hilt, look no further than the massive penalty Judge Arthur Engoron levied on Trump -- and its implications.  Engoron hit Trump with $354 million in penalties for 'fraud' that never cost anyone a dime, and added $100 million in interest to boot.  And thanks to state law, Trump will have to put up the entire amount before he can appeal the verdict and judgment, Jonathan Turley explains this morning: [...]

 

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/02/20/the-fix-is-in-455m-poison-pill-in-trump-judgment-n3783255

Maybe we should be holding these prosecutors and judges personally responsible for their actions.  It is time to end any shields from lawsuits for those in these positions.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

Judge Engoron's retribution

 

[...] Even assuming that the case proved Trump overstated the values of some of his properties for the purpose of getting lower interest rates on real estate loans, the other things that the case revealed — that this was an example of selective prosecution, that there were no victims, that the loans were paid back in a "timely and total" fashion, that the lending institutions made the loans based not on Trump's representations but on their own research, and that some of those institutions were eager to do business with Trump again — all that meant that a far smaller penalty, perhaps a tiny fraction of what Judge Arthur Engoron imposed, would be appropriate.  [...]

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/daily-memo/2864228/judge-engorons-retribution/

[Family 3,988]

On 2/19/2024 at 4:08 PM, TBoneTX said:

And exactly WHY didn't they act during his previous many decades of similar behavior?   

I wouldn’t say there was no action in previous decades…

 

 

From the 1970s until he was elected president in 2016, Donald Trump and his businesses were involved in over 4,000 legal cases in U.S. federal and state courts, including battles with casino patrons, million-dollar real estate lawsuits, personal defamation lawsuits, and over 100 business tax disputes.^[1] He has also been accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault,^[2][3] with one accusation resulting in Trump being held civilly liable.^[4]

In 2015, his lawyer Alan Garten called this "a natural part of doing business" in the United States.^[5][6] While litigation is indeed common in the real estate industry,^[5] Trump has been involved in more legal cases than his fellow magnates Edward J. DeBartolo Jr., Donald Bren, Stephen M. Ross, Sam Zell, and Larry Silverstein combined.^[7]

 

 

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump}

[TBoneTX 45,287]

BREAKING:  Wade Cellphone Data Exposes Willis' Testimony As False

 

[...] In a new filing in the Fani Willis disqualification motions, cellphone records demonstrate that Willis and Nathan Wade's close relationship started before she hired him as the special prosecutor for the RICO case against Trump et al.  And if this data can be substantiated, it could set up both lawyers for perjury charges and disbarment.  [...]

 

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/02/23/breaking-wade-cellphone-data-exposes-willis-testimony-as-false-n3783467

[Family 3,988]

15 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

BREAKING:  Wade Cellphone Data Exposes Willis' Testimony As False

 

[...] In a new filing in the Fani Willis disqualification motions, cellphone records demonstrate that Willis and Nathan Wade's close relationship started before she hired him as the special prosecutor for the RICO case against Trump et al.  And if this data can be substantiated, it could set up both lawyers for perjury charges and disbarment.  [...]

 

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2024/02/23/breaking-wade-cellphone-data-exposes-willis-testimony-as-false-n3783467

As you say often , Fani is toast 😂but I  do believe charges will stand .

[Pooky 3,784]

2 hours ago, Family said:

As you say often , Fani is toast 😂but I  do believe charges will stand .

Take Fani out of the picture and the likelihood is that her whole office will be removed. At that point, it may be more practical to drop the whole case. Because it will fail in its main aim of prosecuting him before the election.