[Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump [merged]

[TBoneTX 45,287]

Alan Dershowitz:  Fulton County Is Indicting Trump for What Democrats Did in 2000

 

[...] During an interview, Dershowitz also criticized the indictment, comparing it to Democrats contesting the outcome of the 2000 presidential election: [...]

 

https://www.redstate.com/jeffc/2023/08/15/alan-dershowitz-fulton-county-is-indicting-trump-for-what-democrats-did-in-2000-n2162662

[Pooky 3,784]

24 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Alan Dershowitz:  Fulton County Is Indicting Trump for What Democrats Did in 2000

 

[...] During an interview, Dershowitz also criticized the indictment, comparing it to Democrats contesting the outcome of the 2000 presidential election: [...]

 

https://www.redstate.com/jeffc/2023/08/15/alan-dershowitz-fulton-county-is-indicting-trump-for-what-democrats-did-in-2000-n2162662

But when the Democrats did the same, it wasn’t criminal because … Democrats 😒

[TBoneTX 45,287]

Why Isn't 'Stolen Election' Conspirator Stacey Abrams Behind Bars?

 

[...] The laundry list of indictment-worthy actions leveled against Trump and his allies leads to the pertinent question: If claiming an election is stolen makes you a criminal in Georgia, why isn't Democrat election-denier Stacey Abrams, a two-time gubernatorial sore-loser who repeatedly refused to concede, in prison?  [...]

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/08/15/stacey-abrams-stolen-election-hypocrisy-n2627046

[TBoneTX 45,287]

Mark Meadows Files Motion That Could Be an Out in Georgia for Trump and Multiple Defendants

 

[...] that seems like a smart play and one that has a very real chance of succeeding.  For an explanation of what such a motion actually entails, I'll give way to Leslie McAdoo Gordon, who holds expertise in this area.  [...]

 

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/08/15/mark-meadows-files-motion-that-could-be-an-out-in-georgia-for-trump-and-multiple-defendants-n2162684

[Boiler 45,486]

 

[Dashinka 24,493]

6 hours ago, Boiler said:

 

But, but, but, Democrat.  I am sure they could do a feature length movie with all the denying she has done and continues to do.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

11 hours ago, Pooky said:

But when the Democrats did the same, it wasn’t criminal because … Democrats 😒

Edited August 16, 2023 by Ban Hammer

[TBoneTX 45,287]

Look at what really happened in Georgia.

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Trump Indictment Four: Too much

 

[...] a liberal Washington Post columnist was expressing misgivings about Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis's indictment alleging a vast conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election.  Willis is "well within her legal rights to bring the case under state law," Ruth Marcus wrote.  "Whether that prosecution is advisable, in the wake of federal charges arising out of the same conduct, is a tougher question — one about which I have misgivings."  [...]

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trump-indictment-four-too-much

[TBoneTX 45,287]

This is truly excellent reading.  Can any of it be refuted?

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Debunking Jack Smith's Latest Indictment Against President Trump

 

https://americanmind.org/salvo/debunking-jack-smiths-latest-indictment-against-president-trump/

[TBoneTX 45,287]

White House Assures Americans We're Not A Banana Republic, We're A Democratic Banana Republic

 

[...] The Biden administration released a forceful statement declaring that their prosecution of political opponents was being performed in a very democratic fashion.  "Yes, we jail political opponents just like in a banana republic - but the prosecutors are appointed by elected officials. It's all very democratic," explained the White House.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/white-house-assures-americans-were-not-a-banana-republic-were-a-democratic-banana-republic

[Family 3,988]

 

 

Stacey Abrams: It is ‘wrong’ to compare her refusal to concede with Trump’s stolen election rhetoric 

Republicans have continued to call Abrams’ actions in 2018 the original “Big Lie.” As Abrams runs for Georgia governor again, she wants to be clear she’s here to defend democracy.

 

ATLANTA — Stacey Abrams on Monday cautioned against conflating her refusal to concede in the 2018 Georgia governor’s race with former President Donald Trump’s false claims of a stolen election, calling the latter wrong and dangerous for democracy.

“I will never ever say that it is OK to claim fraudulent outcomes as a way to give yourself power,”

 

On 8/15/2023 at 7:42 PM, TBoneTX said:

Why Isn't 'Stolen Election' Conspirator Stacey Abrams Behind Bars?

 

[...] The laundry list of indictment-worthy actions leveled against Trump and his allies leads to the pertinent question: If claiming an election is stolen makes you a criminal in Georgia, why isn't Democrat election-denier Stacey Abrams, a two-time gubernatorial sore-loser who repeatedly refused to concede, in prison?  [...]

 

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2023/08/15/stacey-abrams-stolen-election-hypocrisy-n2627046

 

 

The challenge is that people are always going to cherry pick the language that they want to make the points that they need,” Abrams told Haines. “… And I apologize that people can only listen to four seconds of a speech and not the whole 15 seconds. But what I think is absolutely critical is that we not allow ourselves to conflate access and outcome

[Family 3,988]

7 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

White House Assures Americans We're Not A Banana Republic, We're A Democratic Banana Republic

 

[...] The Biden administration released a forceful statement declaring that their prosecution of political opponents was being performed in a very democratic fashion.  "Yes, we jail political opponents just like in a banana republic - but the prosecutors are appointed by elected officials. It's all very democratic," explained the White House.  [...]

 

https://babylonbee.com/news/white-house-assures-americans-were-not-a-banana-republic-were-a-democratic-banana-republic

 

New Trump Fund-Raising E-mail Asks Supporters to Serve Prison Time for Him

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—A new fund-raising e-mail from Donald J. Trump is offering donors the “unique chance” to serve prison time for the former President.

“Jack So-Called Smith and the Biden Justice Department want to put Your Favorite President 

 

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/new-trump-fund-raising-e-mail-asks-supporters-to-serve-prison-time-for-him

[Boiler 45,486]

Hillary Clinton: Trump is an ‘illegitimate president’

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html

 

Hillary Clinton dismissed President Trump as an “illegitimate president” and suggested that “he knows” that he stole the 2016 presidential election in a CBS News interview to be aired Sunday.

The former secretary of state, who lost the presidency to Trump, offered a scathing assessment of the president, his 2016 win and the latest allegations that he tried to obtain incriminating information from a foreign government about Joe Biden, a possible 2020 opponent, according to excerpts released by CBS from a wide-ranging pretaped interview for its “Sunday Morning” show,

Clinton was asked whether it angers her that none of the current Democratic candidates invoke her on the campaign trail while Trump’s rally crowds still break out into “lock her up” chants.

“No, it doesn’t kill me because he knows he’s an illegitimate president,” she said. “I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did.”

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

As these leftists will learn, there is nothing criminal about challenging an election.   Even Professor Alan Dershowitz, who is certainly no Trump fan, says this whole thing is crazy. 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[Family 3,988]

10 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Look at what really happened in Georgia.

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Trump Indictment Four: Too much

 

[...] a liberal Washington Post columnist was expressing misgivings about Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis's indictment alleging a vast conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election.  Willis is "well within her legal rights to bring the case under state law," Ruth Marcus wrote.  "Whether that prosecution is advisable, in the wake of federal charges arising out of the same conduct, is a tougher question — one about which I have misgivings."  [...]

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trump-indictment-four-too-much

Maybe future civil actions by states with Fake Electors…
 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/wisconsin-judge-allows-civil-case-fake-trump-electors-102181613

False Electoral College certificates were submitted declaring Trump the winner of Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada and Pennsylvania.