[Master Thread] Federal & State Charges Against Pres. Trump [merged]

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

13 minutes ago, Jericho said:

There is a definitive difference between political speech, puffery, and incitement.

Which one of those was this:? "You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.."  Schumer called for the death of 2 SCOTUS Justices.. and someone tried to follow through.   Why wasn't Schumer charged????

5 minutes ago, Jericho said:

 

It's not a twist, it's a legal standard.

"You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.."

Edited August 2, 2023 by Crazy Cat

[TBoneTX 45,287]

1 minute ago, Jericho said:

it's a legal standard

None of the attendees were armed.  (Unsure about the Federal agents.)

[Family 3,988]

12 minutes ago, Jericho said:

The only breaches of law that I think really should be looked at is his family's continued breach of the emoluments clause. Not only did he continue to actively run his business' during his administration, but his family used their positions to secure and expand their business' in China and the Middle East. Then there is the fact that Trump forced federal government to use his privately owned properties to house traveling diplomats and government agents. This required the government to finance upgrades to his properties to meet diplomatic travel standards.

You are right..but Supreme Court was /is a bit changed post Trump admin

There was /is a case to be made

 

In dismissing the lawsuits Monday, no justice noted a dissent suggesting they all believed that there was no case or controversy remaining because Trump is no longer in office.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/25/politics/emoluments-trump-supreme-court-explainer/index.html

[Jericho 28]

6 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Links, please?  The last report that I remember was that the guests paid standard rates, whatever those were (rack, government, something else).  He himself was not involved, apparently.

 

They were on government business and required to use Trump properties. Auditors claim that he was using inflated rates, of course, Trump and his family claim otherwise, but the fact that he was using his properties for directed government business is a breach of the emoluments clause. Lucky for him, SCOTUS is stacked in his favor. They overturned a lower court ruling but refused to take the case up themselves. You know, discovery could get ugly in a case like that.

 

Emoluments

 

Charges for state dinner at Trump property

 

Family given money from foreign powers

 

Secret Service charged at least $1.4m, at inflated rates for accomodations at Trump properties for official duties protecting the president.

[Dashinka 24,493]

Doesn't this all belong in the Master Thread?

 

[TedsGirl 193]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/08/02/the-new-charges-against-trump-carry-the-death-penalty-n1715460
 

Wait. What?

 

I find it very very interesting that as the whistleblower accounts are made, Jack Smith adds more against Trump🤔

[Jericho 28]

16 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

Which one of those was this:? "You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.."  Schumer called for the death of 2 SCOTUS Justices.. and someone tried to follow through.   Why wasn't Schumer charged????

"You have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won't know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.."

 

For the context of this situation, incitement.  At least that is what the prosecutors have charged him with.

[Dashinka 24,493]

1 minute ago, TedsGirl said:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2023/08/02/the-new-charges-against-trump-carry-the-death-penalty-n1715460
 

Wait. What?

 

I find it very very interesting that as the whistleblower accounts are made, Jack Smith adds more against Trump🤔

Go over to the Biden Corruption thread, there is a nice summary of the "coincidences" of timing.

[Pooky 3,784]

59 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Doesn't this all belong in the Master Thread?

 

Apparently, getting buried in a welter of differing viewpoints is seen as intolerable in a forum set up for open discussion.

 

It seems that the overwhelming bias of the mass media, bombarding the general public with a singular, agenda-driven viewpoint has given some people the misguided idea that this is the norm.

 

Welcome to the other side of the coin 😈

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

Biden will pardon Trump for everything...Mark my words.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

Future headline:  "Biden pardons Trump after reaching agreement for mutual pardon after 2024 General Election"

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

2 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Links, please?  The last report that I remember was that the guests paid standard rates, whatever those were (rack, government, something else).  He himself was not involved, apparently.

For folks like me that don't follow details closely, when I see another attempt to take Trump down thru impeachment or picking a jury in a lopsided Democrat run County I just shrug and yawn. Just where are we on baseless campaigns agianst him.

 

I am old enough to remember when almost every news source, and according to Hillary evert Intel agency in the US said his Russian collusion was a fact.

I mean the National Geospatial Intel agency said it. Must be true.

 

I will add I don't particularly like Trump but it's a joke at this point.

 

Using our judicial system as a political weapon scares me, in a bad kgb kind of way

[Family 3,988]

There is much to be said about the privileges of being an OP.
 

For example one could abort/terminate a thread..or for that matter simply enjoy the community privilege of authorship. ..
 

Politics aside , the same two cracked eggs could either be scrambled at Joes Dinner or Eggs Benedict at The Ritz…only difference is the Chef😂

[Family 3,988]

10 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I will add I don't particularly like Trump but it's a joke at this point.

 

Using our judicial system as a political weapon scares me, in a bad kgb kind of way

Thank you for saying that. I of course am utterly confused what his supporters like in the man. 
 

As well as listening to him Promise To go after everyone who actually believes his acts were /are Criminal. 
 

 

[Family 3,988]

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