Previously denied K1 Visa with old fiance... Filing for Spouse Visa with someone else -- is this an issue?

[pushbrk 12,814]

2 hours ago, Kikoar said:

Hello everyone I have a serious question and I don't know what to do about it.

 

Long story short I was in a relationship with an American woman we filled for a k1 visa, we got denied after the interview  administrative processing and all that.

and soon after that she broke up with me. And decided to put an end to the relationship. I didn't want that but there was nothing I could do.

 

Now I met another American woman and we are going to get married and fill a cr 1 application 

My question is that does my previous relationship with the first one is going to cause any problems or hardships 

I just want to know what to expect and if there's any members who went through a similar experience 

 

I appreciate all the insights you could provide me with.

 

 

Thank for taking the time to read my post.

 

And she told you why.  You also have a good idea from the questions you were asked, what the problem was.  Unless you have a criminal record or actually lied in your application, it's probably because they didn't believe your relationship was bona fide.  Best evidence of a bona fide (genuine) relationship is the time you spend together in person.  

 

[Redro 4,611]

3 hours ago, Kikoar said:

Hello everyone I have a serious question and I don't know what to do about it.

 

Long story short I was in a relationship with an American woman we filled for a k1 visa, we got denied after the interview  administrative processing and all that.

and soon after that she broke up with me. And decided to put an end to the relationship. I didn't want that but there was nothing I could do.

 

Now I met another American woman and we are going to get married and fill a cr 1 application 

My question is that does my previous relationship with the first one is going to cause any problems or hardships 

I just want to know what to expect and if there's any members who went through a similar experience 

 

I appreciate all the insights you could provide me with.

 

 

Thank for taking the time to read my post.

 

Depends on why the k1 was refused- was it DS5536 or sent back because they didn’t believe the relationship was real? Or because there was a misrep? Or because a document was missing? 

Depends on length between this relationship and the last. 
depends on how much time you’ve spent with this fiancé and how strong your relationship is… 

too many factors. But spending time with your fiancé before marriage and then spending time together while waiting for the interview is important. 
your partner needs to understand that a strong online relationship won’t be good enough. But that several in person visits are important. 

Edited July 24, 2023 by Redro

[SalishSea 17,745]

2 hours ago, Kikoar said:

My previous fiance 4 years  age gap 

She's older than me 

I meant the current girlfriend.  What is the age difference?

[JeanneAdil 6,414]

Read the red flag issues on the following site and tell us if you have any of them like a big age difference

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/red-flags-that-make-uscis-suspect-marriage-fraud.html

 

then understand any of those could have affected the K1 denial and this one

 

Any CO would suspect u r targeting American women for a visa

and i would think the CO will look at how u met and who else u talk to on social media so do not make the mistake to delete any social media site or messages as that will compound a problem / you need to be completely honest  in all your dealings with immigration

 

For marriage to a USC in Algeria ,  it is a lengthly process to have the marriage license approved so understand and read what the US embasssy in Algers post for the process

check the word portal on the line above and read posts and reviews from other Algerian members

1.  Have your "to be wife" join the site

2.  Do not marry on 1st visit 

3.  spend as much time together as possible /  i had 5 trips all were over a month and i spent total of 10 months with husband and family for Moroc

4.  make sure your family especially mother approves  and  if u marry have her in at least 1 photo you submit to USCIS

 

allah yekbel

[JeanneAdil 6,414]

14 hours ago, Kikoar said:

What kind of information do you need 

timeline of both relationships

ages of all concerned

how u met

have u already met in person

does your family approve

is she able to fulfill the income requirements

do u talk to any of the family of the USC

do either of u have children

Will this USC go the distance when u get a DS 5535 to disclose social media sites

Forgot 1  Any previous divorce(s)

Edited July 24, 2023 by JeanneAdil

[Liam2021 582]

With a previous fail K1, and now is CR1, collect as much as evidences as you can.

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

How much time did you spend together with your ex before the K-1 was denied? Had you both met in person before filing the K-1?

When did that first relationship end, and when did you meet your current partner? 

How much time have you spent in person with your current partner?

What is the age difference with your current partner?

Does your current partner have kids?

[Dashinka 24,375]

16 hours ago, Kikoar said:

Is it going to be very hard to overcome? 

It will take a lot of work on both of your parts.  As others have suggested, you will need to show a bonafide relationship.  I agree with @pushbrk, don't get married on the first visit and before and after the marriage get as much together time as possible which I expect will fall more on her as I assume you do not have a US B2 Visa.

 

Can the challenge be overcome, yes, will it be easy, probably not.

 

Good Luck!

[Beth & Achraf 328]

22 hours ago, Kikoar said:

Hello everyone I have a serious question and I don't know what to do about it.

 

Long story short I was in a relationship with an American woman we filled for a k1 visa, we got denied after the interview  administrative processing and all that.

and soon after that she broke up with me. And decided to put an end to the relationship. I didn't want that but there was nothing I could do.

 

Now I met another American woman and we are going to get married and fill a cr 1 application 

My question is that does my previous relationship with the first one is going to cause any problems or hardships 

I just want to know what to expect and if there's any members who went through a similar experience 

 

I appreciate all the insights you could provide me with.

 

 

Thank for taking the time to read my post.

 

How long ago was the K1?

 

 

 

[LBT & MDM 1]

On 7/23/2023 at 7:02 PM, Mike E said:

I expect so.

 

Why was K-1 denied? 

They don't tell you why. They leave you in hell while they laugh a you for stealing your precious time and money. Only 60% of k1s get approved. You are way better off filing a cr1. They tale them more serious. 

[Mike E 11,739]

17 minutes ago, LBT & MDM said:

Only 60% of k1s get approved

Is there any data behind this?

[James80 10]

4 hours ago, Mike E said:

Is there any data behind this?

Apparently that's the K1 approval rate for Afghanistan - https://www.herocollector.com/k1-visa-approval-refusal-rates/ - though another site - https://visarefusal.com/inadmissibility/k-1-visa-refusals/ -  claims "nearly 40%" are denied initially, though that isn't the final outcome.

[Mike E 11,739]

So no actual data supporting the claim pf 60 percent approval? 

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/NIVWorkload/FY2022NIVWorkloadbyVisaCategory.pdf

 

K1 21,351 issued 3,192 refused

 

 

 

Edited August 1, 2023 by Mike E

[James80 10]

13 hours ago, Mike E said:

So no actual data supporting the claim pf 60 percent approval? 

 

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/Non-Immigrant-Statistics/NIVWorkload/FY2022NIVWorkloadbyVisaCategory.pdf

 

K1 21,351 issued 3,192 refused

 

Nope. Sounds like "LBT&MDM" has an axe to grind since that's their only post here. Thanks for the link, I couldn't find that page with my first bit of Googling! Nice to know their claim is BS and nearly all applications actually succeed.

[briskyten 1]

You can try to get an FOIA from USCIS for your entire A file.