[Master Thread] Environmentalism, Climate Change, etc.

[Ban Hammer 13,429]

12 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

This well-intended relaxation of a recycling program seems to have consequences different than expected.  A bunch of sub-issues are involved; I'd be interested in hearing how YOU would resolve the situation (return to long-time program, eliminate program altogether, or happy medium).

 

The article doesn't mention that the Iowa can/bottle redemption program has been around for decades, and that schoolkids and poor people have used it to earn a few extra dollars by collecting discards.

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Bottle bill changes leave more Iowans in the lurch for returning cans, bottles, group says

 

Two years after Gov. Kim Reynolds signed into law major changes in Iowa's bottle and can redemption program, a nonprofit says Iowans have far fewer options for where they can redeem their beverage containers for a 5-cent deposit.

The program, known as the bottle bill, allows Iowans to return empty cans and bottles to redemption centers, grocery stores and convenience stores to get back a 5-cent deposit they paid when buying the drink.  [...]

 

https://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/politics/2024/04/09/most-iowa-retailers-no-longer-redeem-bottles-cans-after-2022-law-change/73245544007/

so mandate a charge of 5 cents per container, then make it quite difficult to get said deposit by reducing the places to get that deposit = state now has another budget surplus.........

[Dashinka 24,635]

1 hour ago, Ban Hammer said:

so mandate a charge of 5 cents per container, then make it quite difficult to get said deposit by reducing the places to get that deposit = state now has another budget surplus.........

Not the state.  What is not clear, what is the time limit.

 

If no one returns the container to collect the deposit, the beverage distributors keep the nickel.

Edited April 10 by Dashinka

[TBoneTX 45,591]

Interesting to me is that the can/bottle program was in force for at least 40 years, and they mess with it.  I do see the concerns about hygiene -- who wants a bunch of empty containers with flies and possibly ants all over the area?

 

Adding to the mess is that it's not economical to recycle plastics, per the thread about the American Plastics Council from a year or more ago.

[Boiler 45,732]

Not all Heroes wear Capes

 

 

[Dashinka 24,635]

Sometimes you just cannot win for losing.

 

The Paradox That's Supercharging Climate Change

No good deed goes unpunished—and that includes trying to slow climate change. By cutting greenhouse gas emissions, humanity will spew out fewer planet-cooling aerosols—small particles of pollution that act like tiny umbrellas to bounce some of the sun’s energy back into space.

 

“Even more important than this direct reflection effect, they alter the properties of clouds,” says Øivind Hodnebrog, a climate researcher at the Center for International Climate Research in Oslo, Norway. “In essence, they make the clouds brighter, and the clouds reflect sunlight back into space.”

 

https://www.wired.com/story/the-paradox-thats-supercharging-climate-change/

[Dashinka 24,635]

So NOAA not normalizing their data does seem sophomoric. 

 

Government watchdog files complaint vs. NOAA over 'scientific violations' in climate change report

 

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/government-watchdog-files-complaint-accusing-noaa-scentific-violations 

[Dashinka 24,635]

Hmm, climate change and pro-Hamas sentiments are now being tied together?  Not really surprising, follow the money.

 

Police arrest young climate protesters for blocking street near Kamala Harris’ home

 

Harris did not interact with the demonstrators, as her motorcade took an alternate route from her home to Los Angeles International Airport that morning. She flew to Las Vegas to speak about a recent federal gun safety law and attend an event advocating reproductive rights.

 

A crowd of about 40 youthful activists set up camp near Harris’ house Sunday, vowing to stay through the night if she did not meet their demands on climate change and Israel.

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-04-15/youth-climate-advocates-protest-outside-kamala-harris-house

[TBoneTX 45,591]

Finally, a piece that articulates what has bothered many of us.

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Here's How We Know The Climate Crisis Is Not About The Climate

 

[...] Over the last three calendar years, 2021, 2022, and 2023, “"no country has reduced its carbon emissions more than any other major nation on a per capita basis," the Committee to Unleash Prosperity tells us.

"Even though our GDP is about 50% higher than China's, our per capita emissions are roughly the same," says the group.

The data also tell us that though China's emissions grow every year, "ours have come down every year over the last decade."

 

Yet the U.S. is continually singled out as the worst greenhouse gas offender [...]

 

https://issuesinsights.com/2024/05/03/heres-how-we-know-the-climate-crisis-is-not-about-the-climate/

[TBoneTX 45,591]

"Throw a Communist out the window and he comes back in through the front door as an environmentalist."

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German Climate Cultists Attacking a Tesla Factory?  I Thought EVs Were Copacetic

 

[...] I sure am dying to know WHY IN THE SAM HELL these eco-terrorist Mathusian cult members are now attacking the manufacturer of something they themselves have forced down our throats?  [...]

 

https://hotair.com/tree-hugging-sister/2024/05/10/german-climate-cultists-attacking-a-tesla-factory-i-thought-evs-were-copasetic-n3788182

[TBoneTX 45,591]

Read this whole thing.  At least they're not (yet) telling us to smile while we choke down a kale-burger.

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Breeding cows who fart less could help save our planet

 

Breeding cows that fart less could play a large part in protecting the planet from climate change, scientists have revealed.

 

Low-emission cows could be bred from genetic traits and reduce the amount of the greenhouse gas methane emitted into the atmosphere.  [...]

 

https://www.swiowanewssource.com/news/nation/article_b5a5e13d-31f7-5353-8d98-9f19845c3dea.html

[Dashinka 24,635]

Maybe this guy can give us an example.

 

UCL Professor's Controversial Tweet on Pandemic-Driven Population 'Culling' Sparks Outrage

 

In his controversial tweet, McGuire stated: "If I am brutally honest, the only realistic way I see emissions falling as fast as they need to, to avoid catastrophic climate breakdown, is the culling of the human population by a pandemic with a very high fatality rate." The tweet was deleted a few hours later, but McGuire showed no regrets for his statement.

 

The incident has raised concerns about the professor's views on humanity, despite his reputation as a well-known expert in his field. McGuire later clarified that he meant a socio-economic shock to slash economic activity could reduce emissions, not an actual culling of the population. However, the damage was already done, with widespread condemnation of his initial statement.

 

https://tr.im/world/united-kingdom/ucl-professors-controversial-tweet-on-pandemic-driven-population-culling-sparks-outrage

[TBoneTX 45,591]

5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

McGuire

He is psychotic and should be institutionalized.

[Dashinka 24,635]

I feel for those folks in Iowa, not really sure a tornado in May is evidence of climate change, but this video is amazing.

 

 

[Boiler 45,732]

They make the blades north of Denver and you can see them being shipped by Train, massive and also light. No way could you practically make them to withstand that bit then again an oil rig is going to have issues.

 

We had a wind warning yesterday and looks like today as well, not a good time to be driving a semi with a empty trailer, I have seen those flip but we do get the attention. We have had an OK snow winter, nothing massive but last 2 years have been low, and it has not been that hot so far reducing the demand from the Front Range.

 

The UK had a wet winter, worst since 1948, die apparently to Global Warming which begs the question what happened in 1948.

 

 

[Dashinka 24,635]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

They make the blades north of Denver and you can see them being shipped by Train, massive and also light. No way could you practically make them to withstand that bit then again an oil rig is going to have issues.

 

We had a wind warning yesterday and looks like today as well, not a good time to be driving a semi with a empty trailer, I have seen those flip but we do get the attention. We have had an OK snow winter, nothing massive but last 2 years have been low, and it has not been that hot so far reducing the demand from the Front Range.

 

The UK had a wet winter, worst since 1948, die apparently to Global Warming which begs the question what happened in 1948.

 

 

Every weather event today is reported as due to climate change.  It is like they never had tornadoes in the midwest before today.