[Master Thread] Environmentalism, Climate Change, etc.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

4 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

"We still have two to three years in which we can divert from the path of the fossil-fuel led annihilation."

🤣

[Dashinka 24,493]

4 minutes ago, Crazy Cat said:

🤣

Leftist cultist are generally not very smart.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

9 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Altnaharra

Gesundheit -- drink chicken soup and get plenty of rest.

[Dashinka 24,493]

So are these folks the 0.1%?

 

More than 1,600 scientists, including two Nobel laureates, declare climate 'emergency' a myth

 

A coalition of 1,609 scientists from around the world have signed a declaration stating “there is no climate emergency” and that they “strongly oppose the harmful and unrealistic net-zero CO2 policy” being pushed across the globe. The declaration does not deny the harmful effect of greenhouse gasses, but instead challenges the hysteria brought about by the narrative of imminent doom.

 

 

“Scientists should openly address uncertainties and exaggerations in their predictions of global warming, while politicians should dispassionately count the real costs as well as the imagined benefits of their policy measures,” the declaration says.

 

Of the 1,609 scientists who have signed the declaration, two signatories are Nobel Prize laureates. The most recent to sign is Nobel Prize winner Dr. John F. Clauser, winner of the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics. In an announcement from CLINTEL, Clauser is quoted as saying "Misguided climate science has metastasized into massive shock-journalistic pseudoscience. In turn, the pseudoscience has become a scapegoat for a wide variety of other unrelated ills. It has been promoted and extended by similarly misguided business marketing agents, politicians, journalists, government agencies, and environmentalists."

 

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/environment/more-1600-scientists-including-nobel-laureates-declare-climate-crisis

[Dashinka 24,493]

Seems typical for today’s highly politicized scientific world.

 

I Left Out the Full Truth to Get My Climate Change Paper Published

 

The paper I just published—“Climate warming increases extreme daily wildfire growth risk in California”—focuses exclusively on how climate change has affected extreme wildfire behavior. I knew not to try to quantify key aspects other than climate change in my research because it would dilute the story that prestigious journals like Nature and its rival, Science,want to tell. 
 

This matters because it is critically important for scientists to be published in high-profile journals; in many ways, they are the gatekeepers for career success in academia. And the editors of these journals have made it abundantly clear, both by what they publish and what they reject, that they want climate papers that support certain preapproved narratives—even when those narratives come at the expense of broader knowledge for society. 

 

https://www.thefp.com/p/i-overhyped-climate-change-to-get-published

[TBoneTX 45,287]

18 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Seems typical for today’s highly politicized scientific world.

Very sad, and harmful too.

[Dashinka 24,493]

10 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Very sad, and harmful too.

Very sad, but as the author stated, this is the current state of these journals.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

6 hours ago, Dashinka said:

this is the current state of these journals

They used to be 100% trustworthy.

[Pooky 3,784]

18 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Very sad, and harmful too.

It’s not just sad and harmful, it involves a level of intellectual dishonesty that will taint the science for generations to come. The tainted science will have a cascade effect through the economy, the expenditure on misdirected efforts to curb a problem where there is incomplete, or inaccurate understanding, and could potentially lead to environmental consequences wholly disproportionate to the actual issues at hand.

 

7 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Very sad, but as the author stated, this is the current state of these journals.

 

Science needs to return to an objective assessment of the facts to produce a complete story. Agendas cannot have a place in true scientific evaluation. And money, while important to make scientific study happen in the first place, cannot be allowed to predetermine the outcome of that research.

 

These scientific publications are actively working to fabricate inaccurate conclusions. True scientists must be horrified to see what should be objective assessments corrupted by ideology and, most importantly, money.
 

1 hour ago, TBoneTX said:

They used to be 100% trustworthy.

 

When you are no longer able to trust the science, you are sending civilization on a slippery slope to collective idiocy, but where most people don’t realize they are idiots because they have never been informed of the truth.

 

Aka we’re rotating in a helical motion on an inclined plane. 🙁

[TBoneTX 45,287]

2 minutes ago, Pooky said:

collective idiocy

In many ways, we're already there (here).

3 minutes ago, Pooky said:

most people don’t realize they are idiots because they have never been informed of the truth

When someone barbecued Alexandria Occasional-Cortex about something, she got offended.  The offender responded, "Morons always get upset when you call them morons."  I need to find that link.

[TBoneTX 45,287]

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UK:  you may soon go to jail if you don't upgrade your energy efficiency

 

[...] The UK -- which is still led by the Tories only because Labour is even worse -- is looking to undo the Industrial Revolution.  In a ridiculous bid to save Gaia from an imagined threat, the government is proposing to create new criminal laws that would imprison and fine people for not complying with new energy efficiency standards.  Soon they will make excessive energy use -- and that will be energy use that rises above "Net Zero" -- could be a criminal offense.  [...]

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/09/06/uk-you-may-soon-go-to-jail-if-you-dont-upgrade-your-energy-efficiency-n576157

[Dashinka 24,493]

17 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

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UK:  you may soon go to jail if you don't upgrade your energy efficiency

 

[...] The UK -- which is still led by the Tories only because Labour is even worse -- is looking to undo the Industrial Revolution.  In a ridiculous bid to save Gaia from an imagined threat, the government is proposing to create new criminal laws that would imprison and fine people for not complying with new energy efficiency standards.  Soon they will make excessive energy use -- and that will be energy use that rises above "Net Zero" -- could be a criminal offense.  [...]

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/09/06/uk-you-may-soon-go-to-jail-if-you-dont-upgrade-your-energy-efficiency-n576157

Still won’t be enough for the eco zealots.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

20 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

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UK:  you may soon go to jail if you don't upgrade your energy efficiency

 

[...] The UK -- which is still led by the Tories only because Labour is even worse -- is looking to undo the Industrial Revolution.  In a ridiculous bid to save Gaia from an imagined threat, the government is proposing to create new criminal laws that would imprison and fine people for not complying with new energy efficiency standards.  Soon they will make excessive energy use -- and that will be energy use that rises above "Net Zero" -- could be a criminal offense.  [...]

 

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/09/06/uk-you-may-soon-go-to-jail-if-you-dont-upgrade-your-energy-efficiency-n576157

My light bill was over 600 bucks last month. Modest 3 bed 2 bath home 2 peoples. 

 

I do have a garage apt with 2 peoples in it. 

 

Insane. Light bill over half of house payment 

[TBoneTX 45,287]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Light bill

And if you don't pay it, you'll be de-lighted.  Haaaaaaaaaa!

[Dashinka 24,493]

17 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

My light bill was over 600 bucks last month. Modest 3 bed 2 bath home 2 peoples. 

 

I do have a garage apt with 2 peoples in it. 

 

Insane. Light bill over half of house payment 

Haven't had an electric bill over 200 this year.  Of course I do not have an EV, and the Summer was very mild up here so not a lot of AC operation.