A Question!!

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

15 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Where?

 

 

A lot of people meet online these days. At least they have actually met in person before pursuing marriage, unlike some people we see here on VJ.

 

@Marruecos I agree with others that your best bet is to do the CR-1, and to focus on spending as much time together as possible. Morocco is a difficult consulate and time spent together, in person, is the best evidence of a bone fide relationship you can get and can help overcome the difficulties of the consulate you are dealing with. 

Edited June 27, 2023 by beloved_dingo

[Mike E 11,739]

Just now, beloved_dingo said:

A lot of people meet online these days

Nobody meets online.

 

A meeting has occurred  between 2 people, when they are in close enough physical proximity to perceive and converse  with each other.

 

OP has not been dating for 5 years. There is scant evidence of bonafide relationship. The prospects for fiance(e) or spousal visa are grim until there have been more meetings.

[Marruecos 4]

15 minutes ago, Mike E said:

That is not dating.

 

I cannot speak to your personal safety if you pursue a relationship in Morocco that is illegal in Morocco.

I don't think you understand the situation, but anyway Thank you for your help.

[Marruecos 4]

14 minutes ago, beloved_dingo said:

A lot of people meet online these days. At least they have actually met in person before pursuing marriage, unlike some people we see here on VJ.

 

@Marruecos I agree with others that your best bet is to do the CR-1, and to focus on spending as much time together as possible. Morocco is a difficult consulate and time spent together, in person, is the best evidence of a bone fide relationship you can get and can help overcome the difficulties of the consulate you are dealing with. 

Thank you for this, yes I agree too, I just wish that someone from Morocco can share the experience of the process, if it's safe or not here

6 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Nobody meets online.

 

A meeting has occurred  between 2 people, when they are in close enough physical proximity to perceive and converse  with each other.

 

OP has not been dating for 5 years. There is scant evidence of bonafide relationship. The prospects for fiance(e) or spousal visa are grim until there have been more meetings.

Bruh, we will meet  a lot, that's what I said!!, please try to read my answers 

[Redro 4,611]

5 minutes ago, Marruecos said:

Thank you for this, yes I agree too, I just wish that someone from Morocco can share the experience of the process, if it's safe or not here

You would have to reach out to LGBT groups INSIDE Morocco. Unfortunately, we cannot tell the future but as I mentioned before… there is a lawyer who is helping a U.S. American and his Moroccan partner (same sex couple) go through the fiancé visa process.
Your safety will be related to how you conduct yourselves when you are together in Morocco and the attitudes of your family if they discover your relationship.

But, the consulate will not deny your visa because you are in a same sex relationship. And if you marry when you exit the country, they (officials in Morocco) will not know your partner is the same sex. 
The consulate might deny the visa if they believe the relationship is not real. 

Edited June 27, 2023 by Redro

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

8 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Nobody meets online.

 

A meeting has occurred  between 2 people, when they are in close enough physical proximity to perceive and converse  with each other.

 

OP has not been dating for 5 years. There is scant evidence of bonafide relationship. The prospects for fiance(e) or spousal visa are grim until there have been more meetings.

While I agree that OP needs more time in person with their partner, and have already stated as such, you are living in the past if you think real connections cannot be made online first, and lead to a long term/lifelong relationship (whether platonic or romantic). 

 

[Mike E 11,739]

3 minutes ago, Marruecos said:

Bruh, we will meet  a lot, that's what I said!!,

no you wrote:

 

On 6/24/2023 at 2:35 PM, Marruecos said:

In the past 4y .. we met once .. this year this month

one meeting in 4 years is not a lot.

 

Quote

please try to read my answers 

It is you who needs to read your answers.

 

Without meeting  more you are not getting a visa.

 

 

[Marruecos 4]

2 minutes ago, beloved_dingo said:

While I agree that OP needs more time in person with their partner, and have already stated as such, you are living in the past if you think real connections cannot be made online first, and lead to a long term/lifelong relationship (whether platonic or romantic). 

 

Exactly, Thank you for this.

[Marruecos 4]

3 minutes ago, Redro said:

You would have to reach out to LGBT groups INSIDE Morocco. Unfortunately, we cannot travel tell the future but as I mentioned before… there is a lawyer who is helping a U.S. American and his Moroccan partner go through the visa process. Your safety will be related to how you conduct yourselves when you are together in Morocco and the attitudes of your family if they discover your relationship.

But, the consulate will not deny your visa because you are in a same sex relationship. And if you marry when you exit the country, they (officials in Morocco) will not know your partner is the same sex. 
The consulate might deny the visa if they believe the relationship is not real. 

So If I get married with her in Utah via zoom, because that's the situation, do you think officials in Morocco will know ? I really want to be safe during the process

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

Just now, Marruecos said:

Exactly, Thank you for this.

Just keep in mind that @Mike E and I are agreeing that you need more time in person to successfully obtain a visa. 

 

The rest is semantics.

[Marruecos 4]

3 minutes ago, Mike E said:

no you wrote:

 

one meeting in 4 years is not a lot.

 

It is you who needs to read your answers.

 

Without meeting  more you are not getting a visa.

 

 

Yes and I said we will meet more, what I care about now is my safety during the process not meeting, because meeting we will meet more

1 minute ago, beloved_dingo said:

Just keep in mind that @Mike E and I are agreeing that you need more time in person to successfully obtain a visa. 

 

The rest is semantics.

Yes and that's what we are working for, we will meet more, but what I care about is, if I get married to her via Utah ( zoom ), does that will be dangerous for me in Morocco during the process ?

Edited June 27, 2023 by Marruecos

[Mike E 11,739]

2 minutes ago, beloved_dingo said:

you are living in the past if you think real connections cannot be made online first

None of which carries any weight in U.S. immigration law.  (By all means start a topic in a relevant forum on visajourney if you want to debate antiquated INA.)

[Redro 4,611]

4 minutes ago, Marruecos said:

So If I get married with her in Utah via zoom, because that's the situation, do you think officials in Morocco will know ? I really want to be safe during the process

They will not know unless you inform them. 

[Mike E 11,739]

4 minutes ago, Marruecos said:

do you think officials in Morocco will know

Utah County will not report your marriage to Morocco. However,  with few exceptions, marriages are a matter of public record in the U.S. 

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

2 minutes ago, Mike E said:

None of which carries any weight in U.S. immigration law.  (By all means start a topic in a relevant forum on visajourney if you want to debate antiquated INA.)

I never implied it did. Not sure what the issue is here, and OP seems aware that they need to spend more time together in person.